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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 11:06 PM
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Excessive negative front camber

Just got the the alignment done on my 05 E55 and the front right tire had -3.6 degrees of camber. What would cause it to be that far off? The rest of the car was all within spec. The car has not been lowered at all and seems to drive ok but it is going to burn through tires if I can't get it fixed.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:40 AM
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Has the car been in any accidents? Hit a curb?

Just as an FYI, -1.4° +/- 0.3° is factory spec.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:46 AM
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The car has not been in any accidents. I was thinking maybe the lower ball joint or the air strut, would either of those cause the negative camber?
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:52 AM
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Could be a ball joint. I'd check your strut arm bushing as well.

Is there a height difference between the right and left sides?
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 01:54 AM
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The side with the excessive camber is a hair under 1/2 inch lower than the other side.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 07:11 AM
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Do you have...

Camber bolts installed? If not, you could probably benefit from them.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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Camber bolts installed? If not, you could probably benefit from them.
Are you talking about the MB crash bolts? Those won't give more than 0.5° of adjustment per side, if you're lucky.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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I said help, not fix......
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 10:00 AM
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I didn't want him to think they would completely cure his problem.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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I talked to an Indy over the phone and he said the only 2 things that could cause that much camber if nothing is bent would be the lower control arm bushing or the lower ball joint. Does that sound right? I won't be able to have it looked at till probably Saturday.
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Jack the car up and see if you can move the wheel in and out by hand at both the top and bottom of the wheel.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HeissRod
Jack the car up and see if you can move the wheel in and out by hand at both the top and bottom of the wheel.
I will try that tonight and report back.
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Look at the rubber bushings in your lower control arms. I bet they are stretched so the bolt is off center. The original ones have hollow cutouts and sag over time. New ones from pelican parts (oem) are solid rubber and much better at holding the wheel in place.


On second thought they should both be out about the same if the bushings went bad--never mind.

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My front was off at -3.0 and swapped the MB bolts the other way I moved into +1.5 factory spec
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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I jacked the car up last night and pushed/pulled on the top and bottom of the tire and saw movement in #185 of the diagram. I am thinking of ordering and installing part #100 with the bushing pre installed as I think that may be easier. What do I need to do with the air strut so that I can safely unbolt it from the control arm?
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Strut arm bushing, just like I said. If they sell that bushing separately, it will have to be pressed in.

In order to work with the strut, you will need to release pressure from the front system. There is a DIY on here about tricking the system or you can find someone who will loan you a star system to do it. For the removal and install, you can really use the bushing install link in my sig.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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So after a long delay I did replace the bushings, torque arm and ball joint but the camber did not change. Took it to the dealer and they say the spindle is bent and quoted 2300 to replace it. Needless to say I will be doing it my self but when researching part numbers I come up with 2 numbers. one site shows 211 330 65 20 as fitting all E class including the AMG and another shows AMG requires 211 330 67 20. Can any one provide me insight in to what part number is correct (price seems to be about the same for either part)
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 06:15 PM
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I'm not sure what side you need driver side or passenger side, but this is what I got when I did a quick search on eBay I left a link below the link that you might have better success with.http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-MERCEDES-W211-AMG-E55-CLS55-DRIVER-SIDE-SPINDLE-HUB-BEARING-KNUCKLE-OEM-/171309899010?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27e2dd9d02&vxp=mtr
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...indle&_sacat=0

EPC Startek info is free and can show you all the part numbers and is Vin specific

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Ouch!
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After looking at the EPC and talking with my parts guy 211 330 67 20 is the correct part number. Most online part houses show 211 330 65 20 as the correct part but that is wrong. It will fit but the holes for the caliper mounting would need to be machined out for the larger AMG calipers. Just wanted to get that out her incase anyone else ever needs to replace a spindle.
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Originally Posted by SoCal55k
After looking at the EPC and talking with my parts guy 211 330 67 20 is the correct part number. Most online part houses show 211 330 65 20 as the correct part but that is wrong. It will fit but the holes for the caliper mounting would need to be machined out for the larger AMG calipers. Just wanted to get that out her incase anyone else ever needs to replace a spindle.
Awesome. Thanks for the info!
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