Keyless-go issues...
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07 E63
Keyless-go issues...
as the title says, my keyless-go is malfunctioning. The car locks/unlocks, but once i get in the car sometimes its give me the "Key not detected" message. i tried to insert the key into the ignition to start the car once and i was unable to turn the ignition. Each time all of this happens it eventually works, but in the last day or so its become more frequent.
I've look on here and I have seen suggestions to replace the key battery which i have done with both keys a few months ago, so thats not the issue.
the other suggested issue could be a weak car battery, could that in fact be a cause?
Help me out here guys, i would very much appreciate it.
TIA
I've look on here and I have seen suggestions to replace the key battery which i have done with both keys a few months ago, so thats not the issue.
the other suggested issue could be a weak car battery, could that in fact be a cause?
Help me out here guys, i would very much appreciate it.
TIA
Last edited by FromM3toAMG; May 21, 2014 at 11:54 PM.
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Check the contacts inside the keyfob itself. Take it apart like you would to replace the key battery, but flip it upside down and look at the contacts to see if they're dirty. You might want to look at the circuit board itself as well and see if there's a solder joint coming loose. Does it happen on both keyfobs?
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Check the contacts inside the keyfob itself. Take it apart like you would to replace the key battery, but flip it upside down and look at the contacts to see if they're dirty. You might want to look at the circuit board itself as well and see if there's a solder joint coming loose. Does it happen on both keyfobs?
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When you changed out the batteries did the problem go away for a while, like a few months. For some reason these fobs eat low quality batteries and even some duracells if they have been sitting on the shelf for a while.. When this happens after putting in fresh batteries try to lock the car then unlock using the fob and then go for the key less start, making sure the brake lights actually come on, could be a brake switch issue, not the uncommon. Good luck.
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When you changed out the batteries did the problem go away for a while, like a few months. For some reason these fobs eat low quality batteries and even some duracells if they have been sitting on the shelf for a while.. When this happens after putting in fresh batteries try to lock the car then unlock using the fob and then go for the key less start, making sure the brake lights actually come on, could be a brake switch issue, not the uncommon. Good luck.
Also, I'm not having any issues locking/unlocking or opening the trunk... This morning when the "key not recognized"massage popped up, I was able to start the car manually.
Could this be an issue with the start button?
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Yeah, I guess I could try new batteries. But what as the chances that both my FOBs drained the battery? Seems unlikely. I believe I changed them out in January or February....
Also, I'm not having any issues locking/unlocking or opening the trunk... This morning when the "key not recognized"massage popped up, I was able to start the car manually.
Could this be an issue with the start button?
Also, I'm not having any issues locking/unlocking or opening the trunk... This morning when the "key not recognized"massage popped up, I was able to start the car manually.
Could this be an issue with the start button?
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Here is what people are trying to tell you. Spend $5 on new batteries for one of your fobs and see if it solves your problem. Keyless Go is not like a regular fob because it apparently is always trying to communicate with your car and therefore always using power. A regular fob only uses power when you push a button. Whenever my door locks or keyless go start acting up I immediately change the batteries and most times that solves the problem. Four or five months out of a pair of batteries is not out of the question. Might not be the problem but eliminate the simple things first. I change the fob batteries in my Lexus about once every two years but again they are not keyless go. I always have spare batteries for the E. No big deal once you accept the reality. Good luck.
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People giving advice on the batteries .. have you tried removing the batteries all together and seeing if keyless go works?
OP your issue with "Key not detected" is unlikely to be a battery issue. If you take the batteries out altogether, the car can still pick up key presence I have tried this myself. The fob uses some form of RFID type chip that does not require power for keyless go part of it. Immobilizer is the same.
The batteries are used for remote control transmitting open/close etc ..
You need to use a Star to properly diagnose the issue .. unless you plan on randomly swapping out parts ...
OP your issue with "Key not detected" is unlikely to be a battery issue. If you take the batteries out altogether, the car can still pick up key presence I have tried this myself. The fob uses some form of RFID type chip that does not require power for keyless go part of it. Immobilizer is the same.
The batteries are used for remote control transmitting open/close etc ..
You need to use a Star to properly diagnose the issue .. unless you plan on randomly swapping out parts ...
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People telling you the car will detect the key even without batteries are wrong. He could go to the trouble of having a Star diagnosis or he could take the simple logical approach and try new batteries. My bet is that the first thing a Mercedes mechanic would do if you took the car in, would be to change the fob batteries. Of course you could spend a couple of hundred bucks to find out. BTW, I just took the batteries out of my fob, got in the car and pressed the start button and guess what message came up..........."key not detected".
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People telling you the car will detect the key even without batteries are wrong. He could go to the trouble of having a Star diagnosis or he could take the simple logical approach and try new batteries. My bet is that the first thing a Mercedes mechanic would do if you took the car in, would be to change the fob batteries. Of course you could spend a couple of hundred bucks to find out. BTW, I just took the batteries out of my fob, got in the car and pressed the start button and guess what message came up..........."key not detected".
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i have the same issues with my 2004 - had the shifter gate and button replaced and still doesn't always work - i was told to try a new key as the antenna in the key eventually go bad. As long as i have the key in hand it works - which kind of negates the purpose of keyless go
I do wonder if the keyleess go buttons from the newer 211 E63, SL, or CLS work any better.
I do wonder if the keyleess go buttons from the newer 211 E63, SL, or CLS work any better.
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Man, you are killing me, lol. You've had this problem for days now but you'd rather debate the issue than spend five minutes and $5 eliminating a potential source of the problem. Let us know how this turns out and good luck.
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Now that we/I have crossed that bridge, does anyone have any input on what OTHER components could be the issue? Why does holding down the start button seem to solve the issue? if i only press it once as i normally do to start the car it throws the error message, if i hold it the message still comes up but the car starts...
I am also now getting the message while driving.... Is the signal receiver that starts the car the same one that unlocks/locks the car? or is it separate?
Aside from batteries dying, am i really the only E63 owner on this forum that has had this issue?
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It is obvious that we have no other answers for you. If it's working by holding it down then be happy with it. If you feel that you want to have her back just like day one then replace the KG unit. Honestly you bought a big dollar car and now you are trying to cheap out on getting the dealer or Indy to read the KG unit. I'm done looking at this thread.
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It is obvious that we have no other answers for you. If it's working by holding it down then be happy with it. If you feel that you want to have her back just like day one then replace the KG unit. Honestly you bought a big dollar car and now you are trying to cheap out on getting the dealer or Indy to read the KG unit. I'm done looking at this thread.
GTFO, i haven't had a chance to take it in. Has nothing to do with being cheap. You could have saved that worthless *** response. I dont care if i was a millionaire.. doesn't mean im going to hand over a penny of it for something i can do myself. some of us are able to fix our own cars without needing to run to the nearest dealer for petty BS. damn some of you guys are quick to run your mouth's, if you don't have a answer stay off the thread. Simple as that.
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My Driver side door handle was causing big problems with the Keyless go system in summer last year weather was over 30 degrees and that's when it started.
Replaced the outside handle from Merc come's painted and problem solved.
Kept saying key not detected etc
Replaced the outside handle from Merc come's painted and problem solved.
Kept saying key not detected etc
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