RedBullJnky

Thank you!!!
Thanks !! The manifolds took the longest trying to get it all to fit but they work great!

megabyte1311

IF this thing is still around, can you guys send some info! Wanting to convert ours to a twin turbo --any leads or contact would be amazing

Thanks
Wazzy

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e500slr

Well, as I've learnt from what RedBullJnky has said, it's all about the tuning and that's where he had the most trouble and spent the most.

They're keeping the info under wraps too so don't expect any info or help.

EREBUS

That's where the current tt63 platform steps in. Time to evolve.....

miamiE55

nice!!!!

jmb614

Just a bit of showboating, nothing to see here, move along please.

Mitch Detailed

i'll have a solution for standalone before spring.

this "keep the tuning solutions hush hush" mentality between the companies that feel they have a hook is annoying and quite frankly holding a lot of us back to some extent. hopefully i'll have a solution to this problem by mid december.

congrats to RBJ, very impressive setup.

gjunon

Congrats that setup looks amazing!

RedBullJnky

Thanks for the props guys!!

But seriously it's not hard to build a twin turbo system. Any shop that is capable can do it. It's tuning it that has everyone stumped. Except me

If you want to know who my tuner is, I'll tell you. It's LWS Tuning
lwstuning.com The owners name is Lenny and he's a good friend of mine. You can tell him I sent you.

JoeNobody

Weistec has a turbo SLR, although they only gave a tease of it and said it was coming fall 2014. No additional info ever came about. Shame because they could use the same knowledge for the other M113K cars.

RedBullJnky

^^^^^



There is already a twin turbo SLR down here in South Fl. Also tuned by LWS Tuning that's why mine works.

e500slr

THANK YOU I agree with you, it's just sad.

So standalone huh, will the ESP and all the other functions work as well?

c55asleep?

I have a question, when you call any tuner and ask them to email you a tune, do they send it for free? Why would you give out a tune you made to someone with nothing in return? I wonder how many tuners are really tuning from scratch or using tunes that were possibly made by someone else...

blackbenzz

I don't blame RBJ for not revealing his secrets. Nobody wants to put in the time and money to figure it out and everyone here will talk ****. But once you figure it out, everybody wants you to give them what you learned for free.

Standalone is the key to the next level with these cars. I'm pulleyd to run over 20PSI but have to only run 17. So extra heat for nothing. That 3+PSI I'm wasting is probably 50whp

e55amgrocket

That 3psi is more than 50 on those blowers.

e500slr

Standalone but compatible with the factory modules and features like ESP and what not would be INSANE!!! It would open a new world for these cars. Someone always comes and promises big things and yet never provides, it's like a trend in the AMG world. I guess there's no money in developing something like this.

whipplem104

Its because 2 maybe 3 people would actually buy a standalone that had full OE interface because it would cost more than a megasquirt system.

jmb614

Exactly, just save the cash for something newer and more powerful.

Mitch Detailed

So the only 'standalone replacement ecu' option capable at this current time is the motec m1 build. And reverse engineering the canbus systems on this car is incredibly
timeconsuming. So the solution ill be running is 'secondary ecu integration'.

The goal is to allow the oem ecu to control ancillary devices that are low on the priority list of wanting or needing control. I took Haltech elite training about a month ago to determine if the Elite 2500was up for the challenge, and I can say confidently that it is. It has some interesting features that compliment a "parallel" or "secondary ecu integration". Along with more definible fuel and ignition control, there will be better traction control strategies, and for those whom went the turbo route, better boost control strategies. One of the biggest advantages is the ability to adapt engine failsafe strategies for fuel pressure differential compensation, as well as a plethora of user definible maps for anyone's pleasure. It essentially will push the limits of the car back to the mechanical ability instead of questionable fueling or ignition system mapping.

Let's face it. Our car wasn't built with the expectations of being modified and still expecting to run flawlessly, our esp and traction control system was designed to keep cars out of ditches, not to break records on the track. there's a few unanswered or uncertain challenges I'll be facing, but im confident ill find a solution as I start analyzing data to understand more on the electronics side.

Mitch Detailed

Motec m1 gprp costs an estimated 4500 before it reaches the distributor, this doesn't include sensors or relicensing fees, or labor for reverse engineering

Ive been told that a few companies abandoned the project due to its complexity with canbus integration. All the more reason to just let the oe ecu run can and control fuel and ignition alternatively

Can Drive 55

Congratulations on your excellent work. Your car surely makes my old fashioned factory original seem slow.

EREBUS

time to modify, then

whipplem104

The CAN bus is a lot more complicated than people realize. There is a lot going on. Running a piggy back may have some difficulties as well. The biggest factor you should be aware of is that if you get the car to actually operate with out being in limp mode that you will definitely affect the torque calculations the ecu is generating on the BUS. You will also affect torque management from shifts. etc. This can greatly effect when a transmission shifts and whether it survives for very long.
Other than ignition and fuel were you planning on running the dbw throttle as well?

Mitch Detailed

Yes I do plan on running drive by wire, but itll be one step at a time. (first fuel injection , then ignition/ tq management, then dbw and finally ancillary control, (fuel pump control, reference, etc.)

Understanding electronic transmission shifting isn't too complicated, luckily understanding successful strategies from motec, oem and pro efi paved the way for me to understand the logic control aspects. Tq management really consists of simple ignition retard during shifts under load for a specific time.

Dbw will require some mechatronics integration, and cruise control will be lost post conversion, but hopefully it'll be worth it with launch strategy /capability

whipplem104

If you are planning on running the transmission with another computer then you are not running a 4l80e from a chevy. I provide standalone tcus for the 722.6 transmission and others and we have a tremendous amount of work making it reliable in the firmware. Shifting it is easy. Keeping it in the correct sequence and working well is not. If you are talking about creating a tq map to provide the factory tcu with the correct info then you are back to CAN integration and a lot of dyno work to provide an accurate tq map. Then receiving can data to perform your tq reduction. All doable but not a simple piggy back is all.
If you need any info I might be able to help.