Hulk

that's plausible , however 70hp more on a DJ?

chawkins2001

another fact for the haters, my car made 358rwhp bone stock on the dyno dynamics at bip.

fasn8n made 367rwhp bone stock on bips dynamics.

all the geniuses, what do most e55's make bone stock on dynojets? between 405-425rwhp , right lol.

Thericker

No worries, actually Craige, said it 1st, in his last retune on his Weistec setup thread. "The TQ on BIP Dynodynamics dyno was correct for DJ readings but the HP was'nt & off 13-15%" Which left the rest of us scratching our heads No big deal, and why DJ's (when properly setup are industry standard for comparo, Dynojets are Inertia dynos vs Load Bearing dynos/DD MD SF etc) load bearing dynos are very fickle etc etc..

Thericker

Hmm.. Missed this Def NOT hating buddy, just giving my point of view is all

320 dreamer

my slk32 made 40 rwhp less than it had ever dyno'd before on bip's dyno. of course after tony tuned it i ran 11.9 after being stuck at 12.0 for 2 yrs on a e/c tune. the dyno # is a simple tool. don't compare this dyno pull to that dyno pull. compare timeslips and et thats the best judge of how the tune is working

FASN8N

I had my car dynoed on a DJ when it was stock and then dynoed again at BIP on the DD before mods were started. 15% seemed to be in the ballpark for my scenario.
Read more here
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...e-results.html

The bottom line is that dyno doesn't mean a thing at the end of the day, it is what times the car posts at the track and BIP has built/tuned many cars that have posted respectable numbers at the track.

DVC

Thanks for the link brother, and great to see you still around! Lots of hate in your thread link as well.

How are you enjoying the V?

cnterline

I agree I was disappointed with my dyno numbers however I was not disappointed at the track

FASN8N

This video sums up how I feel about the V. Nothing like stomping a lightly modded Ford GT twice with the same outcome

The V is a great car, especially when fitted with a 6spd manual. They are easier to mod and less costly to own compared to an AMG or M equivalent. Let me rephrase that, what you don't spend on maint goes to mods anyway, so it is a wash in the end

My E55 was an awesome car and I will always have a soft spot for AMG's, but the V wagon is a ton of fun

Sugar_Mouth

Is it safe to say Jerry's tune was more conservative in the AFR department and part of the reason why it makes less power? I would be curious to see the difference in timing between the two tunes as well.

Thericker

Always liked V wagons.. How much sauce? 150-200 shot

FASN8N

No sauce, just @640rwhp and

DVC

Holy damn...your V is a BEAST! Great video

I've always loved the LS platform and even put one in my Porsche LOL. I think I'll consider a V someday...especially if I relo to an area with more twisties.

I'm still loving the E55 at this point!

nanayaw6

and congrats on the v, thats one hell of a wagon. any chance we'll see it break some hearts this weekend at silver dollar?

e500slr

At the end of the day dynos are just numbers, baseline vs modded is probably a better indicator of performance than comparing DJ vs DD vs Mustang vs whatever. The best measure of performance though is getting a vBox and using the same stretch of road doing 60-130, 100-150 etc runs. After all isn't that why you want more power and torque.

DVC

LOL just seeing this. Lots of jimmies rustled that's for sure.

BTW, you're one of the most helpful and sharing members of this forum, Craig.

DVC

Well said

Thericker

Now that's impressive sir! Well done... Curious what did the Ford GT say? Or & what whp was he rated at? I know it's also 3500lbs or there abouts Was the beat dwn mostly driver error in GT w/manual? Thnx for sharring

FASN8N

Thanks for the compliments, keep enjoying the E55 it is still a great car with a ton of performance potential

I really want to go to SD, but already have this weekend committed to out of town guests. It kills me, because I just put a new clutch in last week and the drag radials are ready to go! I should be in the 10's if I can get to the strip and log some seat time

I 2nd that, Craig is a great guy

I have known the GT owner since birth, he is a retired 70 yr old dentist and has run the GA ½ mile all three years consistently posting speeds of 149-150mph with a smaller SC pulley and exhaust.

To give him credit, he did have some wheel spin in the video above, but I also tried shifting to 5th to see if it would help or hurt my mph and found out it was much better to wind 4th to the limiter.

The other time we raced, I posted a 152.xxx to his 150.xxx. Much closer, but I still beat him out.

This was my first outing at the track in the V, first time on drag radials, and I was only shifting at 6k rpm trying to gain some comfort in the car. My tuner said I probably left at least 4-5mph on the table by not shifting at 7k.

The Ford GT owner is a great guy, after beating him twice, he asked "Do you want to take it down the track for a run?" I quickly responded before he could change his mind . He said "you are younger and probably a better driver, drive it like it is meant to be driven and see if you can beat my mph!". I felt like I got a good launch and nailed every shift producing a 152.xxx mph run, beating his best mph by a little over 1mph.


What a fun and easy car to drive though. Baby it off the line and then start grabbing gears

DVC

Great run in the GT! I love those cars. The owner sounds awesome...70 years old and still out there getting it done!

DVC

Quick thank you to Jerry at Eurocharged. Sent him the dyno results and he adjusted my original EC tune and changed the way boost is handled. Car is stronger than ever.

pullejo

God I'm late finally chiming in on this thread....

And it seems like it's all run it's course appropriately.

Jerry's remote stuff done on my cars was always great... and I loved it. When I bought a tune and pulley from EC, I actually had the guys at B.I.P. put my car on their dyno and Jerry tuned it remotely. He tuned it great, safely, and probably conservatively... as a smart person would and as a concerned customer would want....but also not seeing the car in person or having full control of the setting. It's a remote tune! We had some problems with the pulley... and Jerry was super cool about that.

And guess what? I was super happy.

My baseline on the heartbreaker was 363.... and then after installing long tubes, and upgraded H.E. from EC, and a tune... it showed 421. Gain of 58 at the wheels for Heat Exchanger, Long tubes, and a tune.

Well... I was cool with that because it was a remote, conservative tune.

But... there is nothing like a tune done in person...on a dyno...with multiple runs.

So .... I saw everyone putting down numbers with the conservative mods I had....and I thought I would give the B.I.P. guys a try... the shop is literally walking distance from my house and they had been doing all the regular maintenance on my car already... so I said, "OK... do a Tony tune.... but BE CONSERVATIVE!" The car is my daily driver guys!

So B.I.P. did it... and yes, they had the advantage of having it in person... and after a quick tune...just a tune and nothing else... I did 471 on the same dyno.

I do kind of want to see what 471 on B.I.P.'s heartbreaker equals on some other dyno in town equates to.

Now. I've run this same tune as my daily driver for almost 2 years.... ran it at Go Fast... and the only issue I've had with the car is when I ran over a damn cone trying to turn around at the go fast event.

The B.I.P. guys are the most trust-worthy guys I've encountered in my 20 years of destroying cars. Jerry has been nothing but exemplary to me as well.

And...for my birthday next year... I'm getting myself a bi-turbo E63 wagon so I can race Bart. (I'm not jealous at all... seriously. I'm not)

chawkins2001

That's going to be epic Johnny. Biturbo fun is where its at.

FASN8N

John, a bi-turbo wagon would be a blast. Do it