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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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Stop, Car too Low. :(

So, seeing as how both front units were replaced at 47k and 52k, (left right respectively) per the VMI, and I am at 84,700 today - losing the passenger front bag is ridiculous.

That being said, I was planning on doing something before anything drastic like this happened - but I will persevere on, undaunted.

I will look at arnott - but I would not think of this as a long term solution - its actually a every expensive worm hole that could cost WAY more than just jumping to coilovers right now.

Crap. Maybe have to lease that Honda accord for my wife earlier than expected to have a second car.....

Anyway - any new news on the Coilover or arnott replacement front?
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Throw some BC Coilovers for $1K and never look back. Fixing a system that breaks constantly is a dead end and bottomless hole.
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 05:43 PM
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Throw some BC Coilovers for $1K and never look back. Fixing a system that breaks constantly is a dead end and bottomless hole.
This is where I am with this mentally right now. My friend has replaced 2 already.

What I am now determining is the pathway TO the coilovers.

BC racing (cheaper)

KW V2 - More expensive - maybe better? Maybe not.

Front suspension overhall at same time.


Man. This is getting a bit pricey.
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BC928
This is where I am with this mentally right now. My friend has replaced 2 already.

What I am now determining is the pathway TO the coilovers.

BC racing (cheaper)

KW V2 - More expensive - maybe better? Maybe not.

Front suspension overhall at same time.


Man. This is getting a bit pricey.
I have seen many go with the BC Racing and have nothing bad to say about them. KW is a fabulous setup, probably the best you can get for the E55. When my time comes, it's BC Racing. My biggest fear each time I raise/lower or change the suspension mode is a blowout. I had one on the highway and it was ridiculous.
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
I have seen many go with the BC Racing and have nothing bad to say about them. KW is a fabulous setup, probably the best you can get for the E55. When my time comes, it's BC Racing. My biggest fear each time I raise/lower or change the suspension mode is a blowout. I had one on the highway and it was ridiculous.
Yes, no doubt good - BC racing - but what is the delta on longevity or other measurement on KW V2
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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Sucks man....either option is good. If its a long term keeper spend the extra $...if not well I wouldn't.

Good choice on that Honda though
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BC928
Yes, no doubt good - BC racing - but what is the delta on longevity or other measurement on KW V2
Considering the $40 Monroe shocks lasted 100K on my Lexus I would probably be safe to say the BC or KW would last ~75K. Longer than the Airmatic for sure.
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Old Nov 26, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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So I have been more seriously researching this now that I have a deflated E55 in the driveway.

Looking at this in a rational way, one would find that since our suspension hard parts are basically the same as any other W211 model that was made excepting the station wagon, we would actually have many options as long as you fully understand the shock damping and the spring rates.

I found an interesting list here:

http://www.allshocks.com/CAR/MERCEDE...qOEaAkSv8P8HAQ


I found one option that is very close to my heart, as its normally a Porsche deal - PSS from Bilstein -







Of course here is the KW V2





But don't forget that Arnott also makes them.

Gotta figure out more about shock tops on the front and spring seats and tops for the rear.
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 10:09 PM
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I am heavily leaning towards the PSS9 units from Bilstein. I found a relatively good price online and want to find the rest of the parts I need.

Rear Arms, Bolts for those.

Looks like some shock tops for the front. Probably some spring rubbers for the rear.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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Took the wheel off just to investigate. I like seeing things and taking pictures to plan out the Job.

Fluid is actually coming from the bottom of the shock. I have not read that previously about the air tragics.

So as is my nature,I am planning WYIAT items to do at least on the front when I replace the shocks.

Upper arm
Lower arm
Lower rear arm
Carrier ball joint.
Maybe bearings
Inner tie rod
Outer tie rod.


Any other hints? I suppose the pss9 units will lower the car a tad. I do hope there is enough adjustment range to get it aligned properly.
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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About ready to pull the trigger on the PSS9 units. And the rest of the suspension pieces needed for the update/overhaul.

Found them for a great price (the coilovers).
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Old Dec 1, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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What was the price for the W211 if you don't mind me asking? I had PSS9 on an earlier 993 I owned and PSS10 on my current one and love it.
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OP - i am also interested on knowing the price. Also can you provide feedback on ride height vs STAR lowered. Does it feel stock .. not bouncy?

thanks

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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 11:45 PM
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What I felt is a good price is just under 1900. That is without shipping, but I'll get other parts from same vendor.

It's not a huge decrease from what is apparently available online, but it's a solid known quantity.

When you Google the part number, some prices look low, but when you search the actual vendor website, it doesn't show it. Strange. Namely tire rack.
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Originally Posted by E55Vroom
OP - i am also interested on knowing the price. Also can you provide feedback on ride height vs STAR lowered. Does it feel stock .. not bouncy?

thanks

Rob
I do t have them yet. I hope the hell they are not bouncy. That's what the airmatic is.
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Originally Posted by BC928
So as is my nature,I am planning WYIAT items to do at least on the front when I replace the shocks.

Upper arm
Lower arm
Lower rear arm
Carrier ball joint.
Maybe bearings
Inner tie rod
Outer tie rod.

Any other hints? I suppose the pss9 units will lower the car a tad. I do hope there is enough adjustment range to get it aligned properly.
I'll be interested to hear what the difference is like after replacing these items. I have replaced with Arnotts back and front and was about to replace lower arm ball joints but am considering like yourself replacing the lot. Please keep us informed of the results...
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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I am on track for being able to do most if not all of this work over the holiday period.

I have a large charge on my card, but that is for nearly everything ( still deciding on the rear toe and camber control arms from Shardul)...

I found a great vendor for all of these parts, he is in texas, but I have some history with him from the Porsche world. VERY well priced parts - all lemforder or MB.

His website is 929srus.com but he does this mercedes stuff very well. I gave him my list of parts I shared previously on this forum:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzp...dNVVFQbUU/view

I am at around 3500 for all pieces including the PSS9 kit. Seems pricey, but on the amount of parts that represents, its a very good buy, and it should make a massive difference in the way the car feels. Not much left to break, especially in the suspension.
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I posted this in another thread which I found on the normal W211 side of this forum:



Front spacers:
211 321 01 84 (5mm)
211 321 02 84 (9mm)
211 321 03 84 (13 mm)
211 321 04 84 (17 mm)
211 321 05 84 (21 mm)


Rear Spacers:

A211 325 01 84 (5mm)
A211 325 02 84 (9mm)
A211 325 03 84 (13mm)
A211 325 04 84 (17mm)
A211 325 05 84 (21mm)

So I should be able to "Undo" some of the 30mm lowering of the PSS9.
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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OP thanks for all the research and sharing of info (here and on my Arnott steel thread).
Look forward to your results and experience.
While my airmatic is holding true, this seems to be a great option (with front end rebuild) for a tight, quiet and sweet 80- 100k mile option.

I'm all about doing it once and forgetting about it for another nine years...lol.
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Originally Posted by Worth the wait
OP thanks for all the research and sharing of info (here and on my Arnott steel thread).
Look forward to your results and experience.
While my airmatic is holding true, this seems to be a great option (with front end rebuild) for a tight, quiet and sweet 80- 100k mile option.

I'm all about doing it once and forgetting about it for another nine years...lol.
I sure hope so. I did the same thing when the oil lines went, like I think I mentioned. Oil and all coolant lines replaced, and seals. Done. "Don't bother me again about that mr. e55 car"
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