Tuned E55 vs Tuned C63 Predictions

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View Poll Results: Which one do you think will win?
E55
96.55%
C63
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:54 AM
  #126  
So you won one and lost one so I'd say that the cars are about even. Do the ecu reset then go back out and make two more runs.

Also what gear were you in?
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:58 AM
  #127  
Quote: So you won one and lost one so I'd say that the cars are about even. Do the ecu reset then go back out and make two more runs.

Also what gear were you in?
Well, apparently on the second run he let go of the throttle to even out the cars, I'd say the C63 is definitely faster, but mine is probably faster low end. We'll run again soon enough.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:58 AM
  #128  
Quote: So you won one and lost one so I'd say that the cars are about even. Do the ecu reset then go back out and make two more runs.

Also what gear were you in?
Also, I was in 2nd.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 01:09 AM
  #129  
Quote: Also, I was in 2nd.
Based on the way our cars are geared I'd say 40mph is a bit much for 2nd gear. You will be better off making 3rd gear runs a 45mph. Make sure that you do the sneaky ecu. Go out and make some solo 3rd gear @ 45 runs and you will see what I mean.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 02:06 AM
  #130  
Very nice! There's no sleeping on either car, really. Though with FI, you've displacement on demand, so the ceiling goes a bit higher.

Congrats to both of you.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 09:48 AM
  #131  
A stock Mustang GT would have ate both of ya'll!
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Feb 13, 2015 | 10:08 AM
  #132  
Quote: A stock 96-98 Mustang GT would have ate both of ya'll!
Fixed!
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Feb 13, 2015 | 11:12 AM
  #133  
Race was great fun, was definitely closer than most races against bmws which all got destroyed...

I was really thinking the race would be closer and we would have to watch videos to see who the winner was. Did both races in M with traction off.

I felt the first race was perfect, shifted at all the right times, left right at the horn, Watching the video we both took off at the same time and didn't seem to be any jumps or stuff like that.

I ruined the second race, as you can see in the vid before the third honk I was at 42 and was in front by what felt like a foot, so for what ever reason I took my foot off the gas and thats when he hit the 3rd horn either way was nice to see my car kept up and I felt like i was closing the gap!

incase anyone is looking for the videos;
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Feb 13, 2015 | 11:53 AM
  #134  
C63s with headers and a tune run low 11s @ 125ish or so. I think I've seen some higher traps with more exhaust work and higher octane tune (127+).

E55s with headers, pulley, tune run about the same range (low 11s @ 120s range) . The trap might be slightly lower, hence why I think the C63s have better top end.



I would like for you two to go at it again after you both get some more mods.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:05 PM
  #135  
Quote: Very nice! There's no sleeping on either car, really. Though with FI, you've displacement on demand, so the ceiling goes a bit higher.

Congrats to both of you.
FI and then the 63 with the dual clutch both cars have tricks against each other and it was a fun race!
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:07 PM
  #136  
Quote: C63s with headers and a tune run low 11s @ 125ish or so. I think I've seen some higher traps with more exhaust work and higher octane tune (127+).

E55s with headers, pulley, tune run about the same range (low 11s @ 120s range) . The trap might be slightly lower, hence why I think the C63s have better top end.



I would like for you two to go at it again after you both get some more mods.
I have my headers sitting in the garage while I try to locate a trustworthy speed shop who 1. knows european cars and 2. isn't deliberately trying to rip me off (Titan motorsports in Orlando). Might get a LSD down the road but well see!
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:07 PM
  #137  
Quote: A stock Mustang GT would have ate both of ya'll!
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:13 PM
  #138  
Nice race! Congrats! Never race in M mode.. M mode is for carving canyons when you need to paddle shift…. Our cars are substantially slower in a timed race in M mode. There is lag when you shift manually because you hit rev limiter or you need to short shift. So its's a waste….

Leave it in automatic mode, start from 2nd gear 50-60 mph and you will crush him like that probably a little worse. Starting at 40 mph is the basement of when you want to start a race in 2nd gear. I don't advise starting at that speed. But, still very well done congrats to both you! You have quick cars.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:22 PM
  #139  
Quote: Based on the way our cars are geared I'd say 40mph is a bit much for 2nd gear. You will be better off making 3rd gear runs a 45mph. Make sure that you do the sneaky ecu. Go out and make some solo 3rd gear @ 45 runs and you will see what I mean.

Hey buddy, Sorry I don't agree at all. 2nd gear is actually a bit low for a 40mph rolling start. It's seems to be right at the bare minimum speed for 2nd gear… If you start at any lower of an rpm, The engine has to work its way into the upper range of power band and you are losing time during a emergency race situation.

Talking stock E55 or lightly modded of course.... Maybe your super beast just spins all over the place so you need to start at higher gear. But stock this method I can assure is just right. Rolling start 2nd gear 50mph - 60mph is absolutely crushing to your opponents in a highway roll. Your rpm will be higher but the car responds absolutely immediately. and when the tranny shifts to 3rd its bye bye time for whoever your racing all the way up to 130mph where the trans goes into 4th. But by then the race is usually done.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 12:47 PM
  #140  
Awesome pulls fellas!
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Feb 13, 2015 | 01:19 PM
  #141  
Quote: Hey buddy, Sorry I don't agree at all. 2nd gear is actually a bit low for a 40mph rolling start. It's seems to be right at the bare minimum speed for 2nd gear… If you start at any lower of an rpm, The engine has to work its way into the upper range of power band and you are losing time during a emergency race situation.

Talking stock E55 or lightly modded of course.... Maybe your super beast just spins all over the place so you need to start at higher gear. But stock this method I can assure is just right. Rolling start 2nd gear 50mph - 60mph is absolutely crushing to your opponents in a highway roll. Your rpm will be higher but the car responds absolutely immediately. and when the tranny shifts to 3rd its bye bye time for whoever your racing all the way up to 130mph where the trans goes into 4th. But by then the race is usually done.
I agree with this for a stockish E55. My car is a dog at 40mph. 55-60 it's a whole nother car. When it hits 3rd, it's like the owner took the leash off - throws you back in the seat at the 85mph gear change
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Feb 13, 2015 | 02:38 PM
  #142  
Ouch ! Way not to represent the e55. U have to get headers and a pulley and even if he has headers u will beat him. I have raced 4 c63 that all had ARH headers tune x pioe ect... And beat them every time from 40-130. As far has the guy saying a c63 will trap 125 with just headers that's false.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 03:04 PM
  #143  
Quote: Ouch ! Way not to represent the e55. U have to get headers and a pulley and even if he has headers u will beat him. I have raced 4 c63 that all had ARH headers tune x pioe ect... And beat them every time from 40-130. As far has the guy saying a c63 will trap 125 with just headers that's false.
c63s with tune and headers (no other perfomance mods) DO trap 125+... there are 2 guys on the forum (dodger and Mthis) that have trapped 130.7 and 128mph and they both run in the 10's... dodger is at 10.66... i doubt youre beating them.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24279.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24802.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23635.html

and a bunch more trapping 125+ in the 11s

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23405.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-22453.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24079.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24409.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24408.html



I've had both cars and standard e55 with headers and 180mm pulley feels about the same in speed to me as c63 with tune and LTH ... remember the c63 is about 400-600 lbs lighter stock (depending on which weight source you look at)
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Feb 13, 2015 | 04:45 PM
  #144  
Quote: c63s with tune and headers (no other perfomance mods) DO trap 125+... there are 2 guys on the forum (dodger and Mthis) that have trapped 130.7 and 128mph and they both run in the 10's... dodger is at 10.66... i doubt youre beating them.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24279.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24802.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23635.html

and a bunch more trapping 125+ in the 11s

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-23405.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-22453.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24079.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24409.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-24408.html



I've had both cars and standard e55 with headers and 180mm pulley feels about the same in speed to me as c63 with tune and LTH ... remember the c63 is about 400-600 lbs lighter stock (depending on which weight source you look at)
Well I stand corrected. A lot of those cars are gutted DRs and spraying. Your e55 was probably heat soak as soon as u press the pedal with 180mm pulley lol maybe one day when u r in Miami with your c63 we can line them up then I can show u what I Mean. No need to lie lol only car that has ever beat me in a roll race was urbamworms cts V making 700 whp. Maybe I have a factory freak who knows.
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Feb 13, 2015 | 04:53 PM
  #145  
Quote: Well I stand corrected. A lot of those cars are gutted DRs and spraying. Your e55 was probably heat soak as soon as u press the pedal with 180mm pulley lol maybe one day when u r in Miami with your c63 we can line them up then I can show u what I Mean. No need to lie lol only car that has ever beat me in a roll race was urbamworms cts V making 700 whp.
why are you making stuff up? not one of those cars was "spraying" if you are meaning nitrous. if you want to see a c63 that is spraying then looks at "dads c63"... he runs 10.13 @139.77

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-21855.html

and nope i wasnt heat soaking in my e55, had decent cooling as was making 9 whp more than you at 515 whp

not saying you havent ever beaten a c63 but your acting like a c63 cant beat an e55.... its been done many times... when modded they are very evenly matched cars
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Feb 13, 2015 | 05:16 PM
  #146  
Quote: why are you making stuff up? not one of those cars was "spraying" if you are meaning nitrous. if you want to see a c63 that is spraying then looks at "dads c63"... he runs 10.13 @139.77

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-21855.html

and nope i wasnt heat soaking in my e55, had decent cooling as was making 9 whp more than you at 515 whp

not saying you havent ever beaten a c63 but your acting like a c63 cant beat an e55.... its been done many times... when modded they are very evenly matched cars
Yes they are close. I would have not even posted if I didn't beat more than one. Maybe my power is more consistent being I have a 5 gallon trunk tank with two pumps running. I know most here don't do that mod. Anyway let's just leave it at they are both closely matched. Good day mate, let me know if u r near tampa ever seriously.'
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Feb 13, 2015 | 05:29 PM
  #147  
Quote: Yes they are close. I would have not even posted if I didn't beat more than one. Maybe my power is more consistent being I have a 5 gallon trunk tank with two pumps running. I know most here don't do that mod. Anyway let's just leave it at they are both closely matched. Good day mate, let me know if u r near tampa ever seriously.'
will do bro, but then i might be having a 75 shot on my car as seriously considering it as this is soon to be my fun car, with e63 4matic getting daily duties

we can always do some fun runs with the nitrous on and off though, then if i blow my motor you can give me a ride to the nearest shop lol
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Feb 13, 2015 | 06:25 PM
  #148  
Quote: will do bro, but then i might be having a 75 shot on my car as seriously considering it as this is soon to be my fun car, with e63 4matic getting daily duties

we can always do some fun runs with the nitrous on and off though, then if i blow my motor you can give me a ride to the nearest shop lol
Lol sweet I want no part of you if u bring e63s Amg. If u tune that I have a snowballs chance in hell lmao
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Feb 13, 2015 | 06:51 PM
  #149  
Quote: Hey buddy, Sorry I don't agree at all. 2nd gear is actually a bit low for a 40mph rolling start. It's seems to be right at the bare minimum speed for 2nd gear… If you start at any lower of an rpm, The engine has to work its way into the upper range of power band and you are losing time during a emergency race situation.

Talking stock E55 or lightly modded of course.... Maybe your super beast just spins all over the place so you need to start at higher gear. But stock this method I can assure is just right. Rolling start 2nd gear 50mph - 60mph is absolutely crushing to your opponents in a highway roll. Your rpm will be higher but the car responds absolutely immediately. and when the tranny shifts to 3rd its bye bye time for whoever your racing all the way up to 130mph
Quote: I agree with this for a stockish E55. My car is a dog at 40mph. 55-60 it's a whole nother car. When it hits 3rd, it's like the owner took the leash off - throws you back in the seat at the 85mph gear change
You guys may be right it's been awhile since I've driven a stock E55. I just remember making 45-50mph solo runs in 3rd and letting it kick down gave me the most seat of the pants acceleration sensation vs 2nd gear @ 45mph
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Feb 13, 2015 | 07:02 PM
  #150  
Quote: Lol sweet I want no part of you if u bring e63s Amg. If u tune that I have a snowballs chance in hell lmao
Maybe not a roll race but you will give a tuned E63/S AWD a run for its money in a 1/4 mile race
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