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Old 02-17-2015, 07:50 PM
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why do I get beat by stock e55!!???

So I have an 84mm sc pulley and a eurocharged ,new 0010 bosh pump,ngk one step colder sparks and I get handel by a friends stock e55 like by a half a car everytime we race. I always get the jump and pull him but he always come creeping up and walks me by a half car leinght.some times I do get him bad and he wont catch up its always like that .I still have the stock heatexchanger is this the reason why???I got kleemanns now so once I get them in I hope I get him ..just dnt want my engine to be bad and maybe thats why its not performing well ..thanks
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Heat xchanger is your problem, you are losing top end
Get a good heat xchanger
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FTP has a good one. They are proven. Fairly cheap to at $359...
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FTP is a frozen boost heat xchanger with the mounting tabs cut and welded in the right position
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Heat xchanger is your problem, you are losing top end
Get a good heat xchanger
Yeah bro exactly my top end sucks lol ..iim going to order ..but right now my 55 is at the dealer fpr that recall did you guys take yours
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FTP has a good one. They are proven. Fairly cheap to at $359...
Thanks yeah I talk to them and it comes out to 400 even so im ordering now
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Forgot to ask what antifreez do u guys use . ?
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With those mods you should not be heat soaking enough to get beat by a stock car.

If you think you are, put the stock sc pulley back on and run just a tune, you should still beat him.
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Cooling is a must for these cars. And so is a dyno tune.
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Originally Posted by Ls1toAMG
FTP has a good one. They are proven. Fairly cheap to at $359...
And it doesn't fit well. It's too tall and doesn't include mounting for the trans cooler, so you have to rig it.
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And it doesn't fit well. It's too tall and doesn't include mounting for the trans cooler, so you have to rig it.
Didn't know that, thanks
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I used a run a 180MM crank and minimal cooling mods. It was a blast in short spurts. Then it heat soaked and it was slow.

I now run OEM sized pulleys with a BIP performance tune, heat exchanger, upgrade I/C pump and split cooling. It's retarded fun. No heat soak and off the line I feel like it's faster.

Cooling the S/C is everything in these cars. Without adequate cooling your actually loosing power.
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Cooling is a must for these cars. And so is a dyno tune.
So a eurocharged tune is not that good bro ?and yeah im ordering a heatexchanger this friday from ftp thanks ..ur the guy with the bi turbo e55 right !!
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With those mods you should not be heat soaking enough to get beat by a stock car.

If you think you are, put the stock sc pulley back on and run just a tune, you should still beat him.
Its a beast from like 1st gear to like 4th but at top end like they mention. I dont feel it heatsoacking like I did with my pump.but is seems like I do lose power ..ec recommends I keep the 84 pully when on there tune ..iI just f***** hate when I see a stock e55 and hes pulling on me lol will see what happens when I run him again with my he and my kleemann headers lol and a new tuen
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And it doesn't fit well. It's too tall and doesn't include mounting for the trans cooler, so you have to rig it.
So do u have any other recommendations??thanks
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DONT WANT TO START ANOTHER THREAD. .
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE HEADERS DID YOU GUYS TITANIUM WRAP OR COATED THEM ??OOR JUST LIKE THAT? thanks
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So do u have any other recommendations??thanks
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Plm is a good heat xchanger and if you can get it at a price reduction even better
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Originally Posted by E55amgsd
So I have an 84mm sc pulley and a eurocharged ,new 0010 bosh pump,ngk one step colder sparks and I get handel by a friends stock e55 like by a half a car everytime we race. I always get the jump and pull him but he always come creeping up and walks me by a half car leinght.some times I do get him bad and he wont catch up its always like that .I still have the stock heatexchanger is this the reason why???I got kleemanns now so once I get them in I hope I get him ..just dnt want my engine to be bad and maybe thats why its not performing well ..thanks
Don't worry losing to a stock 55 there were guys with slightly modded cars that were not as quick as my car when it was stock. If you haven't already make sure your pump is working properly, upgrade your cooling with a new exchanger and maybe even a small resevoir up front after you spil your cooling. Dyno tunes are great but if you can get a road tune.

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is your sc belt slipping? just something you might want to check.
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Originally Posted by E55amgsd
So a eurocharged tune is not that good bro ?and yeah im ordering a heatexchanger this friday from ftp thanks ..ur the guy with the bi turbo e55 right !!
I ran 10.7 with a Eurocharged stage 3 and a dyno tune from Jerry. Never had any issues.

...and yes my car is now twin turbo'd
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Originally Posted by RedBullJnky
I ran 10.7 with a Eurocharged stage 3 and a dyno tune from Jerry. Never had any issues.

...and yes my car is now twin turbo'd
Yeah I think they are great ..
is just that HE messing me up lol
nice bro ur 55 is a beast seen u run on instagram lol
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Originally Posted by desired_speeds
is your sc belt slipping? just something you might want to check.
It dosent slip to much I got a tighter belt the hd one iit seems to be doing well
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PLM sold by Shardul
Sharduls is 450 plus shipping
ftp is 400 evenincluding shipping
so ill go with ftp :/ ..


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