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Old 04-01-2015 | 10:20 AM
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I've torn down a good number of these motors by now, but this one takes the cake. Since I wasn't in the car when it happened, any guesses on how it happened would be pure speculation. Crank and rods are still good

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Old 04-01-2015 | 10:22 AM
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Old 04-01-2015 | 10:24 AM
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Old 04-01-2015 | 10:47 AM
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Why did the bore crack? Was there high amounts of water in them? Like showed on that one cylinder left....
Old 04-01-2015 | 10:47 AM
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what block did you end up using on your previous build? is this the same one?

this is what i have seen on a 55k block


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Old 04-01-2015 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Crissus
Why did the bore crack? Was there high amounts of water in them? Like showed on that one cylinder left....
This is common when taking heads off of engines, any liquids caught in head passages can end up in the cylinders on top of the pistons. Like I said, I wasn't there so I can't suggest a root cause. Given the extreme liner damage though, I'm sure coolant mixed with oil at some point.

Originally Posted by shardul
what block did you end up using on your previous build? is this the same one?

this is what i have seen on a 55k block
I'm pretty confident it's a 55k block but I'll check part numbers when I get home. This was not in my personal car, the motor came to me like this. I have a 5.0L bare block with 5.4L internals in my car right now, runs well
Old 04-01-2015 | 11:08 AM
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There must be huge amounts of heat involved.. How comes all bores do crack? The Pressures in these cylinders must have been huge. I know only of cases with incompressible mediums like water, that Pistons and stuff cracks, rods bending and so forth.
I really would like to know the cause of that terrible look.

Also i heard in German AMG forums that cracked Pistons are also quite common on these engines and the engines do still run more or less normally often with that damage. Have you heard of that aswell in the US?
Old 04-01-2015 | 11:09 AM
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Old 04-01-2015 | 11:23 AM
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If water had made it's way into the combustion chamber, wouldn't it have "steam-cleaned" the piston during combustion?
Old 04-01-2015 | 11:24 AM
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Each one of those cylinders in the picture had detonation going on. Not good either way.
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Nobody is gonna guess correctly lol
Old 04-01-2015 | 11:53 AM
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Old 04-01-2015 | 04:07 PM
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Do you know what caused it?
Old 04-01-2015 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Crissus
There must be huge amounts of heat involved.. How comes all bores do crack? The Pressures in these cylinders must have been huge. I know only of cases with incompressible mediums like water, that Pistons and stuff cracks, rods bending and so forth.
I really would like to know the cause of that terrible look.

Also i heard in German AMG forums that cracked Pistons are also quite common on these engines and the engines do still run more or less normally often with that damage. Have you heard of that aswell in the US?
I've killed some ringlands on stock M113 and M113k pistons, and the car still ran.

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Originally Posted by HeissRod
If water had made it's way into the combustion chamber, wouldn't it have "steam-cleaned" the piston during combustion?
Depends on how much water and how fast it came in. I'm curious how many noticed they're not stock Mercedes pistons... lol
Old 04-01-2015 | 05:08 PM
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Crazy, noticed they aren't stock pistons from your pictures. I've seen some high HP force induction motors blow holes in the block from hydrolocking at high rpms and unknown partial flooded engine compartments. And similar carnage from more then 1 car that was spraying tons of meth and either the nozzle tip blew off or pump not turning off. And of course seen similar from mega shots of NOS.

Still pretty wicked damages to an open deck block.

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Old 04-01-2015 | 09:49 PM
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Old 04-02-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Detonation. You can see specs on the tops of the pistons and that is the giveaway. When an engine detonates the cylinder pressures skyrocket. The best parts money can buy will still fail when pressures exceed there limits. The engine will just self destruct at high rpm and it will happen so fast there is nothing you can do.
Old 04-02-2015 | 10:48 AM
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If you need a block, I still have my E55 engine sitting in the way in my shop. Need it gone!!

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Old 04-02-2015 | 10:57 AM
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I have seen JB Weld using to repair a cylinder. Knock caused the head gasket to fail and hot gasses pushed through and eroded the aluminum on the back side of the liner. The guy filled the missing aluminum with JB weld and evened it up with a razor blade and put it back together. Drove it for 2 years until he cranked the boost up again.

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Old 04-02-2015 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadget
I have seen JB Weld using to repair a cylinder. Knock caused the head gasket to fail and hot gasses pushed through and eroded the aluminum on the back side of the liner. The guy filled the missing aluminum with JB weld and evened it up with a razor blade and put it back together. Drove it for 2 years until he cranked the boost up again.

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Lol wow are you serious??? I was just joking
Old 04-02-2015 | 11:04 AM
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If you need a block, I still have my E55 engine sitting in the way in my shop. Need it gone!!

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I have a few in the garage but more are always welcome, lol


Originally Posted by Gadget
I have seen JB Weld using to repair a cylinder. Knock caused the head gasket to fail and hot gasses pushed through and eroded the aluminum on the back side of the liner. The guy filled the missing aluminum with JB weld and evened it up with a razor blade and put it back together. Drove it for 2 years until he cranked the boost up again.

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That's awesome
Old 04-02-2015 | 11:15 AM
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Completely serious.




This was on a 4.0L Tacoma. That JB Weld patch held nicely until he over boosted it again years later.

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