Standing half mile
06-09-2015, 11:36 AM
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I have only 506 WHP on a Mainline Dyno ,I never got out of fourth gear on that run .topped at 164.9 when I got out of it.
06-09-2015, 01:31 PM
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that chawkins did 155 in the 1/2? now we know. lol
Anyway, I will check to see comparison 1/2 mile times and try and come up with a ballpark. We ballparked the 1/4 mile mph on the vbox before ever going to the track with centerlines car and we estimated it right on the money!!! That should mean something I would think! So, why would it be so far off now when doing a 1/2 mile? Hopefully we can get to a 1/2 mile event and see sometime soon.
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06-09-2015, 02:31 PM
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I don't find it so hard to believe, since the car is trapping 130 MPH. The car has multiple 130 passes. If he could get a low 1.5x 60 like some of the E55s he would pick up the obvious time in his 1/4. Since 1/2 mile events are not in everyone's neighborhood, this becomes the next best thing to compare cars across the county. Its much easier to buy/borrow a VBOX compared to traveling half way across the country. Also, isn't this the same device used to measure 60-130 pulls that are compared by so many on all different platforms? Another nice comparison would be to see 1/4 mile traps from cars that hit around 160 mph in the 1/2 mile. What has the bi-turbo SL63 trapped? I may have to make some street tire passes in the fall to see what speed my current setup is good for in the 1/4. 
06-09-2015, 03:03 PM
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Yes what did that 725/835 bi turbo do in qtr mile, it had to trap 130 at least no ?
06-09-2015, 05:02 PM
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for example, sl/cl 65's are pretty good in the 1/4.......but their turbocharged engines breath better and make middle to upper speed monsters. we hit a "wall" on ours. been there done that and have thousands of wasted dollars to prove it. i pretty much attacked everyone on here (not justified, though) because a few believed they could get 200 mph in the mile with M113k. they have not ran the mile events..........they were calculating. my unjustified frustrations surface when people haven't raced it thinking they will defy years of failures
after the few remaining mods are done to my car.....I will switch platforms. 10K blower for the M113k will not touch a supercharged 63 or twin turbo 63. period. i apologize for coming across as an a*s. this has been a 3 year adventure with tons of people involved.
we all need to have a 1/2 mile and 1 mile event for MBWorld members and go out for drinks afterwards. this God forsaken hobby is stressful. lol
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06-09-2015, 08:09 PM
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I don't find it so hard to believe, since the car is trapping 130 MPH. The car has multiple 130 passes. If he could get a low 1.5x 60 like some of the E55s he would pick up the obvious time in his 1/4. Since 1/2 mile events are not in everyone's neighborhood, this becomes the next best thing to compare cars across the county. Its much easier to buy/borrow a VBOX compared to traveling half way across the country. Also, isn't this the same device used to measure 60-130 pulls that are compared by so many on all different platforms? Another nice comparison would be to see 1/4 mile traps from cars that hit around 160 mph in the 1/2 mile. What has the bi-turbo SL63 trapped? I may have to make some street tire passes in the fall to see what speed my current setup is good for in the 1/4.
I thank you for your input and you make sense to me! To add that centerlines car trapped 130mph at the track before gaining almost 2 cars on me so he will trap higher now. Probably in the 131.xx range so it will get him closer to the 160mph. I believe that 133mph cars go 160mph in the 1/2 depending of course on cooling and IAT's but I have explained that his car is a monster rolling upstairs. I think at the end of the day, he will fall a little short at maybe 158-159mph but I could be wrong. I just researched this from 1/4 mile guys that have run the 1/2 and knowing how his car is upstairs...I swear I think it gets colder when it runs hard! LMAO
i missed explaining something in my rant. let me explain, now. M113k's do VERY well in the 1/4. 1/2 mile? kinda. full mile? not so much. it's our platform. i have built my car for the mile with low 600's rwhp on MS109 and I all I managed is a 180.00 in the mile (heads lifting) 151.2 in the 1/2 was do to we don't launch hard on the take off......we roll into it.
for example, sl/cl 65's are pretty good in the 1/4.......but their turbocharged engines breath better and make middle to upper speed monsters. we hit a "wall" on ours. been there done that and have thousands of wasted dollars to prove it. i pretty much attacked everyone on here (not justified, though) because a few believed they could get 200 mph in the mile with M113k. they have not ran the mile events..........they were calculating. my unjustified frustrations surface when people haven't raced it thinking they will defy years of failures
after the few remaining mods are done to my car.....I will switch platforms. 10K blower for the M113k will not touch a supercharged 63 or twin turbo 63. period. i apologize for coming across as an a*s. this has been a 3 year adventure with tons of people involved.
we all need to have a 1/2 mile and 1 mile event for MBWorld members and go out for drinks afterwards. this God forsaken hobby is stressful. lol
for example, sl/cl 65's are pretty good in the 1/4.......but their turbocharged engines breath better and make middle to upper speed monsters. we hit a "wall" on ours. been there done that and have thousands of wasted dollars to prove it. i pretty much attacked everyone on here (not justified, though) because a few believed they could get 200 mph in the mile with M113k. they have not ran the mile events..........they were calculating. my unjustified frustrations surface when people haven't raced it thinking they will defy years of failures
after the few remaining mods are done to my car.....I will switch platforms. 10K blower for the M113k will not touch a supercharged 63 or twin turbo 63. period. i apologize for coming across as an a*s. this has been a 3 year adventure with tons of people involved.
we all need to have a 1/2 mile and 1 mile event for MBWorld members and go out for drinks afterwards. this God forsaken hobby is stressful. lol
At least you almost sound human now! In other posts you mention dyno this and dyno that...you need 700rwhp etc....that's laughable because my car dyno'd 624rwhp and I have beaten many many 680-720 rwhp cars...it's all in the car and what dyno and so many other variables...centerlines car dyno'd 509rwhp...HOW FUNNY IS THAT? Would you say that his car will go 10.60's AT LEAST next time he hits the track??? You would laugh at us like you were before about the half mile mph! So, while I know that you think you know it all, you don't but I appreciate your feedback!
Also...you mention that your transmissions (w211) won't do this or that...well my V trans is pretty good and he runs with me like you wouldn't believe and as explained earlier...upstairs...HE RUNS BETTER THAN ME!!! So, I don't see anything wrong with his trans...but maybe yours!
ONE more thing...My V buddy went 134.8 mph in the 1/4 and did 164.4 in the 1/2 this makes it seem possible that centerline could go 160mph...I will underestimate as I always do and stick with my minimum of 158mph but 160mph is NOT out of the question!
P.S. Keep in mind this guy weighs 140lbs with long johns and a wet sweater on!
06-09-2015, 09:01 PM
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Take it easy I weigh 170 ,and hulk you can't split the dif and give me a 157 ?
You guys are beating me up lol
You guys are beating me up lol
06-09-2015, 09:14 PM
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That's insulting and you are way off!!! Maybe 'your' blower doesn't work too efficiently but I explained how incredible his car is upstairs...didn't you read any of it?
It's incredible how so many guys make excuses...we don't make excuses we make it happen and make it work!!!
140lbs.....170lbs whatever!
06-09-2015, 09:18 PM
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He would love to and so would I but he or I will not go 161mph right now...maybe later. We would hope for high 150's and pray for incredible cold weather and possibly higher mph.
For now we will get centerline to the track and see his 1/4 mile mph and times improvement but I am going the 22nd of June to Atco and centerline cant make it so we will go again sometime in fall.
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06-09-2015, 09:18 PM
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That's insulting and you are way off!!! Maybe 'your' blower doesn't work too efficiently but I explained how incredible his car is upstairs...didn't you read any of it?
It's incredible how so many guys make excuses...we don't make excuses we make it happen and make it work!!!
140lbs.....170lbs whatever!
It's incredible how so many guys make excuses...we don't make excuses we make it happen and make it work!!!
140lbs.....170lbs whatever!
You get way to out of control on these things,
there's a difference doing a pull from 60 or whatever to 130-140 to taking off from 0 and going wot for the 1/2 mile or mile. Way off or not, goto a wannagofast event and do it. If he does I'll be the first to say congrats. Wtf you get all turned upside down because others have opinions
06-09-2015, 09:29 PM
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In other posts you mention dyno this and dyno that...you need 700rwhp etc....that's laughable because my car dyno'd 624rwhp and I have beaten many many 680-720 rwhp cars...it's all in the car and what dyno and so many other variables...centerlines car dyno'd 509rwhp...HOW FUNNY IS THAT? Would you say that his car will go 10.60's AT LEAST next time he hits the track??? You would laugh at us like you were before about the half mile mph! So, while I know that you think you know it all, you don't but I appreciate your feedback!
i have emphasized the M113k with our current 5spd transmission would need @750+ rwhp to get near 160 in the 1/2. I'm well aware of different platforms with various hp cannot be "one size fits all" trap speeds. the gtr with 550 crank hp can do 10.9 in the 1/4 mile. the gtr has one of the most bad a*s transmissions in production. again, each engine/transmission has it's powerband/peak. i have never mentioned anything other than Mercedes?
(i was about to post something different to your stupid a*s comment that would of got me banned. lol?) can't even compare the 5spd to the new 7spd Mercedes trans. i have 4 AMG's in my stall as i type this that are at different levels of mods with both transmissions. again......i've been there and done that.
06-09-2015, 09:44 PM
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You get way to out of control on these things, there's a difference doing a pull from 60 or whatever to 130-140 to taking off from 0 and going wot for the 1/2 mile or mile. Way off or not, goto a wannagofast event and do it. If he does I'll be the first to say congrats. Wtf you get all turned upside down because others have opinions
there's a difference doing a pull from 60 or whatever to 130-140 to taking off from 0 and going wot for the 1/2 mile or mile. Way off or not, goto a wannagofast event and do it. If he does I'll be the first to say congrats. Wtf you get all turned upside down because others have opinionsComplete control...but when people like you write that there is a difference from doing a pull from 60 or whatever to 130-140 I say....WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! I just laugh! WHO THE F**K SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? lmao ...We are talking about 0-160 pulls and he logs them with ridiculous IAT2's. Just forget it...you'll never get it!
I have to really go to bat for centerline here I see...how many 55's have gone as fast as his with no meth, no nos, all seats in the car, full exhaust and stock blower? Now, this fall he will go faster and that's a fact! We all know how hard it is to make these cars run fast but he is doing one hell of a job! Your 'stall' has 4 AMG's you say? lmao...doesn't mean you know how to make them fast or that you know what mph that cars will go! HAVE YOU EVER EVEN BEEN TO THE TRACK? Not the horse track where your stall is!
P.S. ...and it seems like it is time to upgrade your stable or stall! Bathroom stall?
P.S.S. ...and don't hold back, no one is kicking you off the forum for being stu*id!
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06-09-2015, 11:55 PM
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This thread is great!!!
what would you guys think my car will run in the 1/2 if I ran 138mph in the 1/4? Keep in mind, I gained 29mph from the 1/8 to the 1/4
Just wondering
Cnterline keep up the good work
what would you guys think my car will run in the 1/2 if I ran 138mph in the 1/4? Keep in mind, I gained 29mph from the 1/8 to the 1/4
Just wondering
Cnterline keep up the good work
06-10-2015, 03:19 AM
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Slap on the V Box it won't take long to find out that's for sure
I love the small block picture above
That platform vs ours is like two tin cans and a string vs an iPhone
I love the small block picture above
That platform vs ours is like two tin cans and a string vs an iPhone
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06-10-2015, 10:30 AM
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holy sh*t, middle school language arts was not a strong suit with some of you on this forum.
uh, it's called turbos? parasitic supercharger is holding us back. as i stated......like 5 times. good chance you might achieve 160 in the 1/2.....but the other bloke will not. then again, staying in it with a stock bottom for another 1/4 would be interesting. that's probably a good reason you haven't run the 1/2 or mile. if not....go get some.
move along folks. nothing to see here.
06-10-2015, 11:41 AM
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You're a bigger f**king moron than I given you credit for. My bad. I have a vested interest in working on these cars as side hobby of sorts.
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