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Old 07-12-2015, 10:17 AM
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2004 W211 E55 AMG >>gone but not forgotten > W123 280E > W124 E280 > W126 380SE
Short term results of too much boost

Hey guys not mine but unsure if Karpo is a member here? Just want to share the awesomeness of this vid. I literally LOL'd.

He was running a 77 sc pulley with a 195 crank pulley putting down 22-24psi of boost - at least until the supercharger blew up...

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How did he have that high boost and no limp mode??
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I didn't see anything blow up?
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2004 W211 E55 AMG >>gone but not forgotten > W123 280E > W124 E280 > W126 380SE
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I didn't see anything blow up?
It didn't blow in this vid just didn't last much longer either under that sort of strain.
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2004 W211 E55 AMG >>gone but not forgotten > W123 280E > W124 E280 > W126 380SE
The car only lasted 30 minutes before the supercharger blew. Karpo reckons the motor can handle over 1000HP now and the intercooler saved it that time. He's been through a few but got another supercharger on order - wants to see how far he can push it...

At 4000 rpm he was at 22psi.






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How is it not going into limp mode? Does he have logs to show 22psi?
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2004 W211 E55 AMG >>gone but not forgotten > W123 280E > W124 E280 > W126 380SE
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How is it not going into limp mode? Does he have logs to show 22psi?
In Karpo's words:

"No limp mode at all. But so fast 4 gear sideways. Tune, and all my stock pumps and fuel line are removed. And im pushing 78psi fuel pressure"

So apparently the extra fuel pressure does the trick.
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Tell karpo to show logs of 22psi
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How is it not going into limp mode?
This^^^^^

22 psi with our factory blower is insane..........like I didn't think it could be done kinda of insane. I have a simular pulley set up and I'm only pushing 16-17psi (map clamped) with cams, high flow heads and MBH headers. Not to mention true 3" exhaust with no cats and dumps before the mufflers.

Maybe he has factory headers and stock exhaust? That's a lot of pressure.....
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I thought the factory MAP sensors were only good up to about 17psi.
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You are correct which is why I and erebus would love to see a log of it showing 22psi
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I have run over 20psi but it goes into limp mode as soon as you let off the throttle and have to restart the car. You can get around that with a map clamp but I'd like a real solution like a new map sensor and rescaled ECU. I don't think the MAP sensor maxes out at 17PSI or I wouldn't get a signal over 20PSI through he OBDII. It's in the code in the ECU

Btw, that thing is probably making way too much heat spinning it out of its efficiency range. The rotors expanded and touched and kaboom. Same thing will happen again. I have a E55 SC laying around when he needs another lol
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He didn't mention any limp mode hence why I would like to know more, tuning etc
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I have run over 20psi but it goes into limp mode as soon as you let off the throttle and have to restart the car. You can get around that with a map clamp but I'd like a real solution like a new map sensor and rescaled ECU. I don't think the MAP sensor maxes out at 17PSI or I wouldn't get a signal over 20PSI through he OBDII. It's in the code in the ECU

Btw, that thing is probably making way too much heat spinning it out of its efficiency range. The rotors expanded and touched and kaboom. Same thing will happen again. I have a E55 SC laying around when he needs another lol
Karpo has been through a few superchargers already and another on order. He's known as "The crazy Russian!"

Yeah he'll probably grab your supercharger for the right price. He picked up one recently on eBay for $300 although obviously that one was a bargain.

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That was the best 20 seconds of that car's life
That's why I laugh everytime I watch this video...
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Karpo has been through a few superchargers already and another on order. He's known as "The crazy Russian!"

Yeah he'll probably grab your supercharger for the right price. He picked up one recently on eBay for $300 although obviously that one was a bargain.
Lol I'd rather run lower boost. He is probably making less power. Or just put it on the bottle for better results.

Lol ok
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
I have run over 20psi but it goes into limp mode as soon as you let off the throttle and have to restart the car. You can get around that with a map clamp but I'd like a real solution like a new map sensor and rescaled ECU. I don't think the MAP sensor maxes out at 17PSI or I wouldn't get a signal over 20PSI through he OBDII. It's in the code in the ECU

Btw, that thing is probably making way too much heat spinning it out of its efficiency range. The rotors expanded and touched and kaboom. Same thing will happen again. I have a E55 SC laying around when he needs another lol
This. My map sensor has logged 18.6 psi on a 175/77 combo each time it went into limp mode after letting off but the sensor got the signal. The motor blew on the second "limp mode" pass.

I'm sitting here contemplating trying a 180/77 or 74 now that I have less intake restriction and seeing much less boost but if I blow another motor I could have easily afforded a weistec... Decisions...
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I have seen cars go into limp mode while still on boost not necessarily when letting off. Obviously as blackbenz said it's a SW issue
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If I am following this correctly it is stated here we do not have the ability to scale for a different map, and even if that was possible, we do not have the ability to remove the limp mode triggered by sensor readings over, say, 18psi?


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