Slow E63
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Slow E63
Hi, I have a 2008 e63 and the car feels a bit slow, like the torque rly isnt there until the 5k rpm and its not like a push u back in ur seat feeling either. I recently did xpipe in place of resonators and maybe that made the car slow. Also, I notice some odd noises when driving manual. For instance, if I drive manual for 10 minutes, my oil temperature goes to about 120C via the dashboard computer and I hear a strong whistle noise like when a tea kettle is done boiling at idle. Any clue? What should oil temp be in general?
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Remove the x pipe I just seriously came across this issue also. I removed my secondary cats and put in an x pipe and it felt and sounded like the car was struggling. Once removed I went with 3in straight pipes. As for the heat issue...I wouldn't drive it like that for too long my friend that might lead to some serious issues down the road. Good luck!
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Small world lol. My xpipe is on the resonators instead of 2nd cats. Do you think its the same effect? Plus with xpipe in place of resonators, I hear no burples on deceleration, which sucks.
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I seriously think u guys are over-exaggerating like crazy lol. In the C63 forums, everyone is getting around 100-110 CELSIUS FOR THE OIL TEMPERATURE. I am driving pretty hard to get to 120C.
REMEMBER I have w211 E63 not a E55
REMEMBER I have w211 E63 not a E55
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On my ml63 normal oil temp is 100-105c. I've seen it as high as 114c under more aggressive street driving. 120 is not too hot and I "believe" mb even has a oil temp too high warning on these cars.
The whistle your hearing is probably a intake manifold leak. The m156 has multiple common vacuum leaks from the intake and they usally whistle. If you change rpm slightly does the tone of the whistle change? If so, it's probably a vacuum leak.
Also, the m156 doesn't pull below 5000 rpm
The whistle your hearing is probably a intake manifold leak. The m156 has multiple common vacuum leaks from the intake and they usally whistle. If you change rpm slightly does the tone of the whistle change? If so, it's probably a vacuum leak.
Also, the m156 doesn't pull below 5000 rpm
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On my ml63 normal oil temp is 100-105c. I've seen it as high as 114c under more aggressive street driving. 120 is not too hot and I "believe" mb even has a oil temp too high warning on these cars.
The whistle your hearing is probably a intake manifold leak. The m156 has multiple common vacuum leaks from the intake and they usally whistle. If you change rpm slightly does the tone of the whistle change? If so, it's probably a vacuum leak.
Also, the m156 doesn't pull below 5000 rpm
The whistle your hearing is probably a intake manifold leak. The m156 has multiple common vacuum leaks from the intake and they usally whistle. If you change rpm slightly does the tone of the whistle change? If so, it's probably a vacuum leak.
Also, the m156 doesn't pull below 5000 rpm
When it reaches temp around 118C+, a very loud whistle is heard when I'm waiting at the red light. When I turn the car off and turn it back on, it disappears.
2) I definately do hear a whistle noise (different from #1 above) and I also hear it change the tone when rpm changes. The thing is though, I recently changed my intake manifold bolts. Could this perhaps be a different leak? The sound is really really annoying.
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Say whatever you want. 120c is 248f. No reason run a car over 220f. There is no advantages and there is a lot of disadvantages. Performance wise it's a power killer.
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1) Yes on regular driving I get around 100C - 105C. When I punch it, especially on manual, it can rise to 120C. I drive manual and sometimes keep the gear on high rpm (4000+) for several minutes.
When it reaches temp around 118C+, a very loud whistle is heard when I'm waiting at the red light. When I turn the car off and turn it back on, it disappears.
2) I definately do hear a whistle noise (different from #1 above) and I also hear it change the tone when rpm changes. The thing is though, I recently changed my intake manifold bolts. Could this perhaps be a different leak? The sound is really really annoying.
When it reaches temp around 118C+, a very loud whistle is heard when I'm waiting at the red light. When I turn the car off and turn it back on, it disappears.
2) I definately do hear a whistle noise (different from #1 above) and I also hear it change the tone when rpm changes. The thing is though, I recently changed my intake manifold bolts. Could this perhaps be a different leak? The sound is really really annoying.
The intake gaskets are 1 of about 15 different intake manifold leaks the m156 has.
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Who or whom should I take this to so they can perform a good check? Also, I know that If I ever get a low coolant warning light, I should take it straight to dealer since those are signs of soon to be head bolt failure.
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Yes, if your car ever uses ANY coolant do your head bolts immediately. In my experience, more than 50% of the cars I've seen with bad head bolts have had at least 1 rod slightly bent. Usally the ones that put off the repair.
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honestly, a dealer. There always updating parts and repair procedures for m156 intake leaks. There is a relatively new bulliten braking down all of the known leaks, how to find them and how to repair them.
Yes, if your car ever uses ANY coolant do your head bolts immediately. In my experience, more than 50% of the cars I've seen with bad head bolts have had at least 1 rod slightly bent. Usally the ones that put off the repair.
Yes, if your car ever uses ANY coolant do your head bolts immediately. In my experience, more than 50% of the cars I've seen with bad head bolts have had at least 1 rod slightly bent. Usally the ones that put off the repair.
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Missfire codes, coolant smell etc. I've seen head bolts on all pre mid 2010 cars. I just think out of m156 owners, c63 owners have a larger online presence.
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Typically hot oil and cool coolant makes for more HP. Cold oil can actually rob the engine of horsepower which is a reason why race cars warm up their fluids prior to a race.
Hot oil flows better.
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Coming previously from an E55, I wish I still had that car. The torque on the E63 is only 465 and at 5000 rpm+ vs 516 at like 2000rpm. So essentially street torque is limited on E63. I used to easily cut off slow drivers on streets with E55, but not too easy with E63. That torque was a drug and Im disappointed. I wouldve gone with e63tt if only it was in my price range. Anyways, im gna replace the xpipe on my resonators with straight pipe? Anyone done this?
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Try running a 55 at 4ooo rpm for ten minutes in citydriving and see just what performance issues you have. Probably a civic would lose u.
"The thing is though, I recently changed my intake manifold bolts. Could this perhaps be a different leak? The sound is really annoying."
Did you also do the gaskets or just the bolts, was there a previous issue or was the replacement just for entertainment.
Whistle noise in any engine is not good as uncontrolled air entering can act like a cutting torch and damage internals, especially valves and pistons, rings etc.
E63's are not slow.
"The thing is though, I recently changed my intake manifold bolts. Could this perhaps be a different leak? The sound is really annoying."
Did you also do the gaskets or just the bolts, was there a previous issue or was the replacement just for entertainment.
Whistle noise in any engine is not good as uncontrolled air entering can act like a cutting torch and damage internals, especially valves and pistons, rings etc.
E63's are not slow.
