19 inch wheels (again..)
02-13-2004, 08:58 AM
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19 inch wheels (again..)
Sorry to get boring about this, but I never expected this to be such a minefield - I thought I could just buy some AMG 19s, put them on and be happy.
My dealer says that I need to do bodywork modifications - rolling the wheel arches, whatever that means. A tuning shop has told me they fit 19s to E55s all the time with no mods.
Can anybody here tell me what the facts really are?
My dealer says that I need to do bodywork modifications - rolling the wheel arches, whatever that means. A tuning shop has told me they fit 19s to E55s all the time with no mods.
Can anybody here tell me what the facts really are?
02-13-2004, 09:44 AM
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LOOK HERE!!!!!!
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=60198
Either you forgot you already posted, which I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for, or you're just not understanding!
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=60198
Either you forgot you already posted, which I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for, or you're just not understanding!
02-13-2004, 10:15 AM
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Dude, I *have* "looked here". And yes, I am also not understanding.
I am getting two totally contradictory stories about the wheel arch mod. Some people say you need it, others say you don't.
Stephens kindly replied saying that he had not had the mods done but now needs them done. But why? What problems occur if you don't do the mods? Is it just the width that is the issue or does the height of the wheel change? There is no mention of any of this on the AMG website.
I am getting two totally contradictory stories about the wheel arch mod. Some people say you need it, others say you don't.
Stephens kindly replied saying that he had not had the mods done but now needs them done. But why? What problems occur if you don't do the mods? Is it just the width that is the issue or does the height of the wheel change? There is no mention of any of this on the AMG website.
02-13-2004, 12:10 PM
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Dude, if AMG says so for safety reasons is there a need to ask WHY?
The Airmatic DC lowers the car at speed, of about 80ishmph, and since AMG cars are already lowered by about 10-12mm than standard Mercedes models, fitting 19inch wheels, and then when the car lowers itself at speed may cause rubbing/tyre blowouts, that is why body mods are needed!
At the end of the day its your safety, Stephens is also getting mods done because of this. You are free to go out buy an E55 and fit any 19inch wheels you may want, but when a tyre blows, you're on your own, and don't say we didn't warn ya.
The Airmatic DC lowers the car at speed, of about 80ishmph, and since AMG cars are already lowered by about 10-12mm than standard Mercedes models, fitting 19inch wheels, and then when the car lowers itself at speed may cause rubbing/tyre blowouts, that is why body mods are needed!
At the end of the day its your safety, Stephens is also getting mods done because of this. You are free to go out buy an E55 and fit any 19inch wheels you may want, but when a tyre blows, you're on your own, and don't say we didn't warn ya.
02-13-2004, 12:56 PM
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Dude, if AMG says so for safety reasons is there a need to ask WHY?
Dude, if AMG says so for safety reasons is there a need to ask WHY?
I have seen no official mention of this anywhere, and according to a reputable tuning shop, people are sticking 19 inch wheels onto their E55s all the time without making any mods at all. If there really is a safety issue, then AMG or Mercedes really ought to make it clearer, and perhaps some slight mention of it in the E55 wheel selector in the AMG website wouldn't be a bad idea.
02-17-2004, 04:35 AM
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With the car fully loaded it is possible to catch the guards if you hit a bump whilst turning, which has happened to me.
With the car fully loaded it is possible to catch the guards if you hit a bump whilst turning, which has happened to me.
02-17-2004, 04:37 AM
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you wont need any modifications with 19s. unless you are planning to slam the car to the ground! if you got 20s then youd need to do some modifications.
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02-17-2004, 04:43 AM
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My car is far from slammed, the lowering has been done through star diagnostics and the guards now need work. We can agree to disagree on this one, I am not saying that it HAS to be done. I drove for 9 months with no issues at all, but it CAN cause a problem. The Brabus fitting instructions also include instructions for the required modifications for the fitment.
My car is far from slammed, the lowering has been done through star diagnostics and the guards now need work. We can agree to disagree on this one, I am not saying that it HAS to be done. I drove for 9 months with no issues at all, but it CAN cause a problem. The Brabus fitting instructions also include instructions for the required modifications for the fitment.
02-17-2004, 04:51 AM
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well all you can really do to the fenders is roll them in a bit. if the car isnt slammed then the tires should be touching the fenders at all on a turn. if make a fast turn over a dip, ofcourse your fenders will be hit, regardless of if you rolled them or not.
as for the guards. as long as you dont repetitively go over dips fast then the tire shouldnt be hitting the top at all.
stephens: im not sure how low your car is, but if the car is lowered to the point where there is only a 1-2 finger gap, then i think you should modify the fenders. but FourBore didnt mention anything about lowering. so if its at the normal height then no modification will be needed.
as for the guards. as long as you dont repetitively go over dips fast then the tire shouldnt be hitting the top at all.
stephens: im not sure how low your car is, but if the car is lowered to the point where there is only a 1-2 finger gap, then i think you should modify the fenders. but FourBore didnt mention anything about lowering. so if its at the normal height then no modification will be needed.
02-17-2004, 05:24 AM
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Spot on, my car has a 2 finger gap. Along with having the guards properly rolled, I am having them flaired slightly for better clearance.
Spot on, my car has a 2 finger gap. Along with having the guards properly rolled, I am having them flaired slightly for better clearance.
02-17-2004, 05:24 PM
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Ok, I contacted AMG in Germany and asked if I needed to modify the wheel arches with the 19s. The reply was:
"Your informations are true and you have to do some modifications at the front and at the rear wheel archers. For detailed informations you can get in contact with your local dealer. He can have a look in the WIS system."
Nice idea. In my job I like to know in great detail about the product I work with and sell. Whenever I go to buy a car, it never fails to astonish me that I always know considerably more about the product I have gone to buy than the people selling it - whatever the level of seniority.
All I want is 19 inch wheels on my car, and my large well-known MB dealer doesn't know they are available, doesn't know whether any mods are needed, tries to put me off by telling me that the ride will be ruined and that the Comand will be inaccurate, and knows nothing about the phone system. And hey, this was the AMG specialist...
I guess they are more used to selling A classes than E55s, but I expect more when paying over £67,000 (approx $120000 US) for a car.
Rant over.
"Your informations are true and you have to do some modifications at the front and at the rear wheel archers. For detailed informations you can get in contact with your local dealer. He can have a look in the WIS system."
Nice idea. In my job I like to know in great detail about the product I work with and sell. Whenever I go to buy a car, it never fails to astonish me that I always know considerably more about the product I have gone to buy than the people selling it - whatever the level of seniority.
All I want is 19 inch wheels on my car, and my large well-known MB dealer doesn't know they are available, doesn't know whether any mods are needed, tries to put me off by telling me that the ride will be ruined and that the Comand will be inaccurate, and knows nothing about the phone system. And hey, this was the AMG specialist...
I guess they are more used to selling A classes than E55s, but I expect more when paying over £67,000 (approx $120000 US) for a car.
Rant over.
02-17-2004, 05:39 PM
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....All I want is 19 inch wheels on my car, and my large well-known MB dealer doesn't know they are available, doesn't know whether any mods are needed, tries to put me off by telling me that the ride will be ruined and that the Comand will be inaccurate, and knows nothing about the phone system. And hey, this was the AMG specialist...
I guess they are more used to selling A classes than E55s, but I expect more when paying over £67,000 (approx $120000 US) for a car.
Rant over.
....All I want is 19 inch wheels on my car, and my large well-known MB dealer doesn't know they are available, doesn't know whether any mods are needed, tries to put me off by telling me that the ride will be ruined and that the Comand will be inaccurate, and knows nothing about the phone system. And hey, this was the AMG specialist...
I guess they are more used to selling A classes than E55s, but I expect more when paying over £67,000 (approx $120000 US) for a car.
Rant over.
