how relatively fast the e55 really is
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how relatively fast the e55 really is
For the past 4 years I've purchased and sometimes sold what i felt were (within reasonable means)the fastest cars available to the public and brought them to the track once or twice. I had an 01 and 02 zo6 and got mid to high 12,s. My 03 srt 10 mid 12;s my 01 turbo very high 11's low mid 12's 99xjr low 13;s
There were no mods speedshifting (turbo)and i didnt let the air pressure out or cool down Just off the highway and onto the track. I'm just an average driver trying to get real world times. My e55 ran two 12.3's in 75 degrees. trac on in comfort. An avg driver can pull a 12.3 again and again. I would lay wager to the e55 over anything within reason 200k or less) in a street race any day of the week. No searching for gears just full power on demand at all times. Of all the cars during that stretch this is the best by leaps and bounds. If you do any mods this car is to0 fast for most tracks without a rollcage.
I cant see an arguement for any other car in this range unless you have an insatiable desire to change gears.
Pls post if you have a non modded track time. I dont think amateur 11s are inpossible in really cold conditions totally stock
Thats unreal
t
Ive saved the turbo and e55 slips if anyone wants the numbers
There were no mods speedshifting (turbo)and i didnt let the air pressure out or cool down Just off the highway and onto the track. I'm just an average driver trying to get real world times. My e55 ran two 12.3's in 75 degrees. trac on in comfort. An avg driver can pull a 12.3 again and again. I would lay wager to the e55 over anything within reason 200k or less) in a street race any day of the week. No searching for gears just full power on demand at all times. Of all the cars during that stretch this is the best by leaps and bounds. If you do any mods this car is to0 fast for most tracks without a rollcage.
I cant see an arguement for any other car in this range unless you have an insatiable desire to change gears.
Pls post if you have a non modded track time. I dont think amateur 11s are inpossible in really cold conditions totally stock
Thats unreal
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Ive saved the turbo and e55 slips if anyone wants the numbers
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LOL! I thought this was a question from a would-be buyer. But it's not 
Even though I'm still going to post my would-be response.
Take your hand
Now move it.
See the neurons? Right, no one does
now raise your hand
and slap some hot ***
see the jiggle?
yeah i just wanted to see that.. heh
it's fast.. 4 second fast.
Even though I'm still going to post my would-be response.
Take your hand
Now move it.
See the neurons? Right, no one does
now raise your hand
and slap some hot ***
see the jiggle?
yeah i just wanted to see that.. heh
it's fast.. 4 second fast.
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I'll give a first hand report after March 28. About a dozen AMGs are heading to the strip here in Ga. There will be E55s (both 211 and 210), CLK55s, C36s, C32s, SL55s and more anticipated.
BTW, I saw a post over on the AMG Owners Club site that an E55 (in Texas) ran an 11.9XX.....stock, other than a K & N induction.
BTW, I saw a post over on the AMG Owners Club site that an E55 (in Texas) ran an 11.9XX.....stock, other than a K & N induction.
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Based on three stock E55 (two 2003 and one 2004) that either I have driven (timed) myself or I have witnessed the actual run (including mine), the average times have been 12.5 to 12.8. I am sorry to give such numbers when many folks have claimed 12.3 down to 11.8s. My view, based on my observations and formulas using horsepower and weight considerations, (climate conditions aside) is it is impossible to have times approaching 12 seconds in an un-modified E55. Can you please post your 12.3 time sheets as I would be interested in the other data provided i.e. 60' 330' 1/8 mile times, etc. for my analysis.
Thanks
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I agree - I picked my E-55 up last Friday. After 350mi Break-in period(yes, I know - it's supposed to be 1000) I clicked off a 117 MPH Qtr mi. I have Highway patrol 1/4 mi lines on the Hiway right in front of my development. The car is nothing short of sensational! Great power - quiet ride and already have a few kills with Mustang owners who have no clue what' they're racing!
Hope to get to the track soon to get an actual time slip!
Hope to get to the track soon to get an actual time slip!
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Originally posted by saber
Were the time slips ever posted?
Were the time slips ever posted?
BTW, I HAVE to believe that a 469hp W211 E55 is more than just 0.6 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile than my normally aspirated '02 (W208) CLK55. I made just one run with traction control off and managed a 13.439....that's with a crummy 2.131 60' time
That was my very first trip to the drags ever.
What is the story behind that 12.8? No traction? High temperature?
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Really everything, meaning the tires afford very little traction hence traction control is usually on and the car gets hot and if you run two times in a row the computer retards the timing because of the heat (not engine temp but air flow temp). By the way, I think the published horsepower is 469 but I have seen no difference between the sl and cl and the e on the dyno. Maybe it is a marketing thing.
I have no doubt that with sticky tires on a cool day with a cold car you can be at 12.2 to 12.4
I have no doubt that with sticky tires on a cool day with a cold car you can be at 12.2 to 12.4
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I will also add my cynical cents worth here. I have yet to see any time slip offered that confirms these claims, depite posts, emails and PM requests, with offers of free hosting.
I'm not saying that it's not possible under the extreme climatic conditions claimed, but we are still waiting to see a single time slip to back it up.
I was thinking the other day that we should create a set of gentlmens rules for posting times. My suggestion is they should, like Saber, show a pic of the car at the track showing the car number allocated, along with a timeslip with the corresponding car number. That way there is no question as to the validity of the claims.
I'm not saying that it's not possible under the extreme climatic conditions claimed, but we are still waiting to see a single time slip to back it up.
I was thinking the other day that we should create a set of gentlmens rules for posting times. My suggestion is they should, like Saber, show a pic of the car at the track showing the car number allocated, along with a timeslip with the corresponding car number. That way there is no question as to the validity of the claims.
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I will also add my cynical cents worth here. I have yet to see any time slip offered that confirms these claims, depite posts, emails and PM requests, with offers of free hosting.
I'm not saying that it's not possible under the extreme climatic conditions claimed, but we are still waiting to see a single time slip to back it up.
I was thinking the other day that we should create a set of gentlmens rules for posting times. My suggestion is they should, like Saber, show a pic of the car at the track showing the car number allocated, along with a timeslip with the corresponding car number. That way there is no question as to the validity of the claims.
I'm not saying that it's not possible under the extreme climatic conditions claimed, but we are still waiting to see a single time slip to back it up.
I was thinking the other day that we should create a set of gentlmens rules for posting times. My suggestion is they should, like Saber, show a pic of the car at the track showing the car number allocated, along with a timeslip with the corresponding car number. That way there is no question as to the validity of the claims.
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I will "second" Stephens request. Believe me, I would love for stock E55 to be capable of 11s all day. It is not the point, we need honest, verifiable postings in order to assess modifications based on actual improvements. It will help everyone.
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I will "second" Stephens request. Beleive me I would love stock E55 to do 11s all day. It is not the point, we need honest, verifiable postings in order to assess modifications based on actual improvements. It will help everyone.
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I agree that empirical data would be better if contolled but unfortunately those without scanners have trouble. Credibility is difficult to establish but I think most are honest if they state it was track instead of gtech and the claims aren't crazy.
For what its worth here are the numbers as I located my 2nd best time slip from 6 runs
.092
2.011
5.376
8.077
90.58
10.412
12.353
115.94
My turbo was like 1.6 or 7 60 ft and actually trapped lower. One e55 run was about 2 mph higher than this posted runcant find slip). Also, it is impossible to verify mods so you just have to assume people are honest
For what its worth here are the numbers as I located my 2nd best time slip from 6 runs
.092
2.011
5.376
8.077
90.58
10.412
12.353
115.94
My turbo was like 1.6 or 7 60 ft and actually trapped lower. One e55 run was about 2 mph higher than this posted runcant find slip). Also, it is impossible to verify mods so you just have to assume people are honest
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The Viper SRT-10 with similar torque, more HP, 345 rear tires, and 800lbs less weight runs high 11s low 12s. There is no way a stock E55 is an 11 sec car. The low-mid 12s published by all the magazines seems to be accurate. I ran a 12.39 in my '97 Viper GTS with 2.0 60 ft times in 90+ degree weather. The older GTS had a more comparable (but still better) power to weight ratio to the new E55...
I love the E55, but c'mon guys....let's be real about what it can and can't do. It is the fastest sedan bar none!
I love the E55, but c'mon guys....let's be real about what it can and can't do. It is the fastest sedan bar none!
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Originally posted by Chappy
I'll give a first hand report after March 28. About a dozen AMGs are heading to the strip here in Ga. There will be E55s (both 211 and 210), CLK55s, C36s, C32s, SL55s and more anticipated.
BTW, I saw a post over on the AMG Owners Club site that an E55 (in Texas) ran an 11.9XX.....stock, other than a K & N induction.
I'll give a first hand report after March 28. About a dozen AMGs are heading to the strip here in Ga. There will be E55s (both 211 and 210), CLK55s, C36s, C32s, SL55s and more anticipated.
BTW, I saw a post over on the AMG Owners Club site that an E55 (in Texas) ran an 11.9XX.....stock, other than a K & N induction.
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James Cannon? Pocholin? I'm just guessing here.
James Cannon? Pocholin? I'm just guessing here.
Nope. Just many of the members of the MBCA / AMG Special Interest Group
Here's a link.....
http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2048
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Originally posted by jkrutch
The Viper SRT-10 with similar torque, more HP, 345 rear tires, and 800lbs less weight runs high 11s low 12s. There is no way a stock E55 is an 11 sec car. The low-mid 12s published by all the magazines seems to be accurate. I ran a 12.39 in my '97 Viper GTS with 2.0 60 ft times in 90+ degree weather. The older GTS had a more comparable (but still better) power to weight ratio to the new E55...
I love the E55, but c'mon guys....let's be real about what it can and can't do. It is the fastest sedan bar none!
The Viper SRT-10 with similar torque, more HP, 345 rear tires, and 800lbs less weight runs high 11s low 12s. There is no way a stock E55 is an 11 sec car. The low-mid 12s published by all the magazines seems to be accurate. I ran a 12.39 in my '97 Viper GTS with 2.0 60 ft times in 90+ degree weather. The older GTS had a more comparable (but still better) power to weight ratio to the new E55...
I love the E55, but c'mon guys....let's be real about what it can and can't do. It is the fastest sedan bar none!
As evidenced by my previous posts, I agree with you. Please note I beat my friends 97 stock Viper by two car lengths with my, at the time, stock e55. I would not have done that well against a newer viper
However, since then I did the relatively easy pulley, ecu and air intake upgrades/modifications. I now have about 560 horse and 600 lbs of torque. With these numbers and my recent track results to date, I am a match for a stock new viper. I do need to work on my rear tires.
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Originally posted by saber
jkrutch
As evidenced by my previous posts, I agree with you. Please note I beat my friends 97 stock Viper by two car lengths with my, at the time, stock e55. I would not have done that well against a newer viper
However, since then I did the relatively easy pulley, ecu and air intake upgrades/modifications. I now have about 560 horse and 600 lbs of torque. With these numbers and my recent track results to date, I am a match for a stock new viper. I do need to work on my rear tires.
jkrutch
As evidenced by my previous posts, I agree with you. Please note I beat my friends 97 stock Viper by two car lengths with my, at the time, stock e55. I would not have done that well against a newer viper
However, since then I did the relatively easy pulley, ecu and air intake upgrades/modifications. I now have about 560 horse and 600 lbs of torque. With these numbers and my recent track results to date, I am a match for a stock new viper. I do need to work on my rear tires.
I believe that you beat a '97 Viper, but you shouldn't have. When I ran my '97 GTS, my 12.39 ET was done @ 119MPH (in May in South Florida). The Viper's weakpoint is lack of traction. Poor short times with high MPH are a Viper trademark. Is your friend a good driver? Was it from a dead stop? I owned an SRT-10 and that car was a screamer. The power-to-weight ratio is amongst the best of any car. It is even better than a 560HP E55. That with the 3.07 gear and 345 rear tires give it a big advantage. I would be skeptical about the E55 winning. Again, I love the E55, but it is still a big, heavy sedan. An extra 90 HP has less of an impact on a nearly 500HP car. Just my .02 worth.
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Originally posted by Chappy
Nope. Just many of the members of the MBCA / AMG Special Interest Group
Here's a link.....
http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2048
Nope. Just many of the members of the MBCA / AMG Special Interest Group
Here's a link.....
http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2048
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Originally posted by saber
jkrutch
As evidenced by my previous posts, I agree with you. Please note I beat my friends 97 stock Viper by two car lengths with my, at the time, stock e55. I would not have done that well against a newer viper
However, since then I did the relatively easy pulley, ecu and air intake upgrades/modifications. I now have about 560 horse and 600 lbs of torque. With these numbers and my recent track results to date, I am a match for a stock new viper. I do need to work on my rear tires.
jkrutch
As evidenced by my previous posts, I agree with you. Please note I beat my friends 97 stock Viper by two car lengths with my, at the time, stock e55. I would not have done that well against a newer viper
However, since then I did the relatively easy pulley, ecu and air intake upgrades/modifications. I now have about 560 horse and 600 lbs of torque. With these numbers and my recent track results to date, I am a match for a stock new viper. I do need to work on my rear tires.
I do believe that you beat a '97 Viper, but you shouldn't have. When I ran my '97 GTS, my 12.39 ET was done @ 119MPH (in sweltering May in South Florida). The Viper's weakpoint is lack of traction. Poor short times with high MPH are a Viper trademark. Is your friend a good driver? Was it from a dead stop? I owned an SRT-10 and that car was a screamer. The power-to-weight ratio is amongst the best of any car. It is even better than a 560HP E55. That with the 3.07 gear and 345 rear tires give it a big advantage. I would be skeptical about the E55 winning. Again, I love the E55, but it is still a big, heavy sedan. An extra 90 HP has less of an impact on a nearly 500HP car. Just my .02 worth.
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jkrutch,
My belief based on what I have seen and been part of has shown the the stock E55 is about a 12.5 car. Hence I think it is a close race with a stock 97 viper. my big advantage was the traction control but even from a roll it was back and forth. My buddy is a fairly good driver and been to the track several times. If the e55 is hot clearly it loses. I have not figured out how to keep it cool after several races other than to open the hood and wait.
A few comments on my post modified car, it is not the horsepower that makes it fast it is the huge torque. At 600lbs it is a monster. Take a look at the time sheets I posted. It shows horrible 60 foot times and amazing mid range. When I get the large and more sticky (not slicks) tires, I will be doing at least 11.8. (I have been doing this drag stuff awhile and have a good feel for such things) If a stock Viper is doing 11.7 your right but everything I have read and seen says 12 to 12.2.
Just my observations.
Regards
My belief based on what I have seen and been part of has shown the the stock E55 is about a 12.5 car. Hence I think it is a close race with a stock 97 viper. my big advantage was the traction control but even from a roll it was back and forth. My buddy is a fairly good driver and been to the track several times. If the e55 is hot clearly it loses. I have not figured out how to keep it cool after several races other than to open the hood and wait.
A few comments on my post modified car, it is not the horsepower that makes it fast it is the huge torque. At 600lbs it is a monster. Take a look at the time sheets I posted. It shows horrible 60 foot times and amazing mid range. When I get the large and more sticky (not slicks) tires, I will be doing at least 11.8. (I have been doing this drag stuff awhile and have a good feel for such things) If a stock Viper is doing 11.7 your right but everything I have read and seen says 12 to 12.2.
Just my observations.
Regards
