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Tire pressure for over 100 mph

Old Jun 26, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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Tire pressure for over 100 mph

The gas cap cover gives two different tire pressures: one below 100 mph and one over 100 mph. If I only go over 100 mph a few times per week, and even then only for short periods, is it okay to keep the lower tire pressure, or should I bump it up to the 100 mph number? Is anyone doing daily city driving on the higher number, and, if so, how's the ride?
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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The higher pressure it to maintain the load rating at higher steady speeds. Unless you are running the car fully loaded, as in 4 people + luggage, and maintaining highway speeds, you won't have any issues.

For me personally I like to run a few psi higher than the normal settings but on a car with a low and high number, somewhere in the middle usually gives a nice balance of handling and ride.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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At higher speed the wheel makes more cicles a second and so produces more heat a second, Cooling down is dependent on temperature difference between inside tire temp and outside tire temp , and between temp of hottest part of rubber and tire inside temp.
so if you drive above 100m/160km/h for even a minute , some spots of rubber get to hot and harden, and crack in next bendings, and so damage to tire is done.
If once damaged the tire can blow after a while because every bending/deflection of the tire damages the hardened parts a bit more.

So my answer is , that even if you drive 100m/h for even a minute once a while, you need the pressure adviced for above 100m/h.

but the advice is often given for Fully loaded car, so Axles loaded to the GAWR's ( gross Axle Weight Ratings), and in your use you mostly have lower load, with for instance only driver and a little load.

This would mean that your advice for below 100m/h is probably enaugh for the lower loads above 100m/h.

I am able to calculate the needed pressures , if you provide me with loads on seperate tires ( hard to determine) and tire data.

Greatings from a Dutch, Pigheaded Selfdeclared tirepressure-specialist.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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I am usually alone with minimal cargo, but will probably add a few PSI to all tires anyway. Thanks for the advice.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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If you want comfort , gripp, and savety , you can use the pressure up to 100m/h, and probably ride that over 100m/h once a while, when you are alone in car and a little load.
Then when you have incidental higher load , you must realise that you must not drive that fast.

So for every speed and load on tires , I can calculate a pressure range.
So a highest pressure with still acceptable comfort and gripp, and a lowest pressure for the speed you wont go over for even a minute, at wich no damage to tire.

That speed thing also works the other way , so lower speed , more deflection allowed, so lower pressure for the same load , or higher loadcapacity for the same load.

So one pressure can be yust fine for your normal use, but for lower speed it can be fine for fully loaded .

Roughly you can add 1 Loaindex-step for every 10km/6,5m lower speed then 160km/100m/h, and the other way around 10km higher speed is 1 LI-step lower maximum load.

The maximum load of a tire is calculated for the reference-pressure ( Standard load P-tire 35 psi) and reference speed of 160km/99m/h, this up to V-speedrated tires.

Will give a picture I made of the official system used , once got hold of the European formula with the extra's for speed and camber-angle.
My idea is to replace that official system, wich is for every speedrating different, by my simpler system of adding or substacting the loadindex for speed.
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 10:25 PM
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Wow, I'm impressed by the work you've put into this. Still, you make me believe I need to add a few PSI above 35 for my V rated tires because of my rare jaunts into the triple digits.
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