NEED TRANS GURU HELP!!!! Reward!!!
#30
Honestly i wish it were that easy .... i expressed the same feeling since i have been told VB, torque converter, and transmission an i have paid to do them all an now they tell me that they would do the tcu and a new one is 1400 and i said an if that doesnt fix it .... considering ive already done a tcu .... they said then they would move on to something else an id be stuck with paying for a new tcu tht did nothing but cost me money. I was like WHAT????? I mean im a tech an fix cars for many people an if someone brings me a car to fix i fix the ****ing problem not throw parts at it til its fixed .... i mean wth has happened to being a REAL mechanic an finding the problem. Thats why we pay diag.
So here i am.with a new trans, with a new vb conductor new solenoids, new.adaptor plug, new fluid, new torque converter, and a warranty and still have a weird delay that hasnt gone away uggggggh. I have called an left a message with the dealership in slc and explained my problem to see what they suggest. Ive been dealing with the new one thats closer in farmington.
So here i am.with a new trans, with a new vb conductor new solenoids, new.adaptor plug, new fluid, new torque converter, and a warranty and still have a weird delay that hasnt gone away uggggggh. I have called an left a message with the dealership in slc and explained my problem to see what they suggest. Ive been dealing with the new one thats closer in farmington.
#32
Raise rear wheels, chock fronts and disconnect linkage at transmission.
Start the car and manually shift through gears.
If there's no delay into reverse. Linkage can be offered back up to transmission shifter in reverse and see which way to adjust. Adjust, reassemble and drive.
Dealership mechanics make more work than they complete half the time.
Sometimes you just have to apply the common sense and effort where they left off.
You had this problem previously so it has nothing to do with the work they did. It's the work they didn't do that has you miffed.
Start the car and manually shift through gears.
If there's no delay into reverse. Linkage can be offered back up to transmission shifter in reverse and see which way to adjust. Adjust, reassemble and drive.
Dealership mechanics make more work than they complete half the time.
Sometimes you just have to apply the common sense and effort where they left off.
You had this problem previously so it has nothing to do with the work they did. It's the work they didn't do that has you miffed.
#33
Thanks Hulk and Silver i think ill wait to hear back from the mercedes in slc an see what he says as well as call up mbusa an talk to them. Thanks guys like i said i did a quick check today an noticed that if i reversed put in park an then right back into drive went right in drive .... hummmmm but if i went reverse an then to drive sat for 8 secs or so an then went into gear if i go from park to drive right in go from drive to reverse it goes right in ..... weird
#34
So like i said i was able to drive some more today an here is the first thing i discovered looks like if i reverse an put in park before going to drive it goes right in .... but if i just go from reverse to drive it delays lol. Going from drive to reverse there is zero delay there too ... weird.
Also i used my friends star got the trans fluid to 80 an checked fluid an way over took out 1.8 quarts to get it to proper level. My guess is being a new empty trans they went by how many qts to fill but forgot that the torque converter was new an reused an still had like 2 qts in .... ugh!!!!
Also i used my friends star got the trans fluid to 80 an checked fluid an way over took out 1.8 quarts to get it to proper level. My guess is being a new empty trans they went by how many qts to fill but forgot that the torque converter was new an reused an still had like 2 qts in .... ugh!!!!
#35
Jesus CHRIST! 2 quarts over????? Bro.. how can that be....
Was the car running and in park when you measured? Did you use the proper tool for it? Make sure...
If you have one of those dipsticks that goes from 1-10 or 12 instead of the official one, measure with a ruler that you have the levels figured out.
https://www.google.com/search?q=722....J7BLS9izqPRcM:
There are a variety of pictures in that google search to make sure^
Was the car running and in park when you measured? Did you use the proper tool for it? Make sure...
If you have one of those dipsticks that goes from 1-10 or 12 instead of the official one, measure with a ruler that you have the levels figured out.
https://www.google.com/search?q=722....J7BLS9izqPRcM:
There are a variety of pictures in that google search to make sure^
Last edited by MACEDON; 07-25-2017 at 10:29 AM.
#36
Yep in park ..... temp at 80 .... level ground and i bought the dipstick from mb it has 2 lines at bottom for 60 degree an then 2 lines at top for 80 degrees an was told has to be between the top 2 lines at 80
Looks just like this one www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-mercedes-benz-parts/transmission-dipstick-tool/140589152100/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4es2dik1QIVQ7jACh11qwsCEAQYAyA BEgLv
Looks just like this one www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-mercedes-benz-parts/transmission-dipstick-tool/140589152100/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo4es2dik1QIVQ7jACh11qwsCEAQYAyA BEgLv
Last edited by E55amg0220; 07-25-2017 at 10:58 AM.
#38
Well did some more checking yesterday an was able to see the shifter it seems fine but who knows. I am starting to lean towards shifter cus like i said if i reverse an then put into drive delays like 8 to 13 secs an then lazily goes in, not hard, not pops in just engages. But if i reverse an then quickly go into park an then right into drive goes right into gear .... strangest thing ever.
An yes verified it was overfilled by 2 qts so far it now sits just above the top line of 80 when its up to temp.
An yes verified it was overfilled by 2 qts so far it now sits just above the top line of 80 when its up to temp.
Last edited by E55amg0220; 08-09-2017 at 01:25 PM.
#39
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1990 300ce supercharged and intercooled
If your shifter says PRND in the instrument cluster then it is not the problem. ANd if it does not then you would be in limp mode with really hard engagement.
Have you tried another TCU. If not then you should before you do anything else. I thought you said it was a tuned unit by someone? Correct?
Put a stock one in and see. Borrow one from someone elses car . It takes 5 minutes.
Have you tried another TCU. If not then you should before you do anything else. I thought you said it was a tuned unit by someone? Correct?
Put a stock one in and see. Borrow one from someone elses car . It takes 5 minutes.
#40
The shifter does say PRND an yes the tcu is a tuned unit ..... an i would LOVE to try a stock one too see if its just that simple ..... but finding one to try is the problem and a new one is 1400 lol ..... i am seeing what i can find
#42
Utah area lol not to many of these guys up here that I have found. But if your in florida your in my home state .... port st lucie haha My dad still lives up there .... wish I did as well 4 seasons are nice but miss the beach and no snow lol
I am still weirded out that it will go right into drive if I first go to park before I go to drive instead of going directly to drive from reverse .... thats got me a bit baffled
I am still weirded out that it will go right into drive if I first go to park before I go to drive instead of going directly to drive from reverse .... thats got me a bit baffled
#45
Well i got a call from the Ken garth service Manager in SLC and he said that he would be willing to take my car in on tues and have a look at what may be causing the issue ... free of charge. I think ill let him see what he can do I have exhausted all my thoughts and cant see any issues that may be causing it.
I mean here are the things Im gunna let them figure out
It has a small trans leak somewhere so they can fix that Im not gunna do so
I dont have a spare TCU to try out ... he said he may that would help
I dont have a spare shifter to try either ... but that or the TCU in my opinion have to be whats causing this issue
I also think it needs the shifting reset using the DAS I tried the key on foot on gas key off and then foot off and wait 2 mins and didnt seem to change anything
Still think its weird that if I reverse and put into drive it will delay every single time for 8 to 15 secs but if I just simply put in park first and then right to drive it goes right into drive perfectly.
I had to remove 2 quarts of trans fluid to get the fluid to proper level and to me thats says some bad things about the Farmington dealership this makes 3 times they have either under or over filled my old and new trans.
So with that kind of offer I think ill let them give it a go and see what they say.
I mean here are the things Im gunna let them figure out
It has a small trans leak somewhere so they can fix that Im not gunna do so
I dont have a spare TCU to try out ... he said he may that would help
I dont have a spare shifter to try either ... but that or the TCU in my opinion have to be whats causing this issue
I also think it needs the shifting reset using the DAS I tried the key on foot on gas key off and then foot off and wait 2 mins and didnt seem to change anything
Still think its weird that if I reverse and put into drive it will delay every single time for 8 to 15 secs but if I just simply put in park first and then right to drive it goes right into drive perfectly.
I had to remove 2 quarts of trans fluid to get the fluid to proper level and to me thats says some bad things about the Farmington dealership this makes 3 times they have either under or over filled my old and new trans.
So with that kind of offer I think ill let them give it a go and see what they say.
Last edited by E55amg0220; 08-09-2017 at 01:26 PM.
#46
Well ladies and gents I took my E55 to SLC mercedes ...... wow these guys are very professional and know what to look for and how to diag a car. The shop foreman and service adviser go with me for a drive letting me show my issues. First thing I showed him was the slight double shift thing he said its perfectly normal its the supercharger clutch engaging they all do it .... wow good to know all this time I thought I had a trans problem. As soon as I did the reverse to drive delay he immediately said ... Shifter linkage. Well with my plate full with 7 cars to attend too, school ... finishing my RN .... and work I left it with them leaving with a loaner.
I got a call 5 hrs later letting me know that the trans mount was loose, they tightened it. The trans was still a half qt overfull they took out the extra so its perfect .... that makes it 2.5 qts overfull from the other dealer. Also the trans was not adapted and needed to be which they did. He also upped my idle 50 rpms as I asked him to do so using the das I like 600 rpms rather than 550. They also cleaned the adaptor plug because it was wet because the plug wasnt tightened so was slightly leaking. An they charged me a whopping 0.00 to fix all this
I have called and left a message for the general manager of the Farmington mercedes to call me. I am rather pissed as i had a remanned trans and torque converter already in the car that was performing great except for this delay and they didnt even attempt to look just kept throwing parts at it even telling me that next step is a new TCU 1400.00 which if it didnt fix it I would be stuck with it. When it was a simple fix that could ahve saved me thousands. If the GM isnt willing to compensate me in some way I will take it to MB USA and see what they have to say bout the situation. Mechanics should be just that ....mechanics ... you diag and look for the problem you dont throw parts at it!!!!
Looks like Shifter was the first to mention shift linkage and I want to personally thank him and offer him the reward if he wants it. Thank you all for all the suggestions and I appreciate everyone here the car is running amazing now!!!!!
I got a call 5 hrs later letting me know that the trans mount was loose, they tightened it. The trans was still a half qt overfull they took out the extra so its perfect .... that makes it 2.5 qts overfull from the other dealer. Also the trans was not adapted and needed to be which they did. He also upped my idle 50 rpms as I asked him to do so using the das I like 600 rpms rather than 550. They also cleaned the adaptor plug because it was wet because the plug wasnt tightened so was slightly leaking. An they charged me a whopping 0.00 to fix all this
I have called and left a message for the general manager of the Farmington mercedes to call me. I am rather pissed as i had a remanned trans and torque converter already in the car that was performing great except for this delay and they didnt even attempt to look just kept throwing parts at it even telling me that next step is a new TCU 1400.00 which if it didnt fix it I would be stuck with it. When it was a simple fix that could ahve saved me thousands. If the GM isnt willing to compensate me in some way I will take it to MB USA and see what they have to say bout the situation. Mechanics should be just that ....mechanics ... you diag and look for the problem you dont throw parts at it!!!!
Looks like Shifter was the first to mention shift linkage and I want to personally thank him and offer him the reward if he wants it. Thank you all for all the suggestions and I appreciate everyone here the car is running amazing now!!!!!
Last edited by E55amg0220; 08-09-2017 at 01:29 PM.
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#47
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That's good to hear about the SLC benz dealer. They're the closest one to me and I like having your vote of confidence if I ever do need to trust something to the dealer.
Thanks for following up on your post!
Thanks for following up on your post!
#48
Sean is the service adviser an is great to work with an the shop foreman definitely knows his stuff. I thought farmington was good but after finding this out i am very disappointed especially being they are close to me.
#49
Seems like it was not just shifting linkage and needed a bit of everything and everyone mentioned it in some way or another lol
Over filled trans big problem
13 pin connector common problem
Resetting shifting adaptations
Shifting linkage
Good luck!
Over filled trans big problem
13 pin connector common problem
Resetting shifting adaptations
Shifting linkage
Good luck!
#50
The main problem was definitely a miss adjusted shift linkage. The other issues may have caused some drive-ability concerns in the future but not directly linked to the delayed engagement. Anyway, Its cool they worked with you and fixed all the little mishaps.
Stealership FTW!! Not often you here that on here right..............
I appreciate the PM. Keep your reward- its nice enough to know there's one more person out there who will keep their word.
Stealership FTW!! Not often you here that on here right..............
I appreciate the PM. Keep your reward- its nice enough to know there's one more person out there who will keep their word.
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