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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 07:41 AM
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why is it when I press the brake pedal I need a ton of force just to slow down slightly? Do I need new brake pads? There also is a noise is I push brake pedal and release it, it makes a pump noise or something. The car makes a squeak noise as the car speeds up from a stop, I believe it’s the transmission shifting. When I shift to any gear a ticking noise comes after each shift. I will provide videos of the sound once I get home from school.

i want to fix this all before I buy a spoiler and do engine mods.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Search SBC. Sounds like you are about to get into that expensive but common maintenance people were talking about. The good news is you will only have to fix the common problems once if you do it right. Unless you keep it for another 10 or 15 years
I'd go with FCP euro for SBC parts.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by StarvingArtist
Search SBC. Sounds like you are about to get into that expensive but common maintenance people were talking about. The good news is you will only have to fix the common problems once if you do it right. Unless you keep it for another 10 or 15 years
I'd go with FCP euro for SBC parts.
yea, I’ll go to dealer soon to see if recalls need to be made
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 09:42 AM
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If you post your VIN on here, there are plenty of people with access to the VMI of your vehicle to check if there are any open recalls or campaigns.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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yea, I’ll go to dealer soon to see if recalls need to be made
the dealer wont fix the sbc motor its.not a recall an its out of warranty. This is what needed to be looked at .... thought ur dad was a master mb tech ..... as a "master" this woulda been one of the main things he woulda looked at on an older e55 amg being they are very pricey an require star to install.
Welcome to older, e55 world
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 11:32 AM
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the dealer wont fix the sbc motor its.not a recall an its out of warranty. This is what needed to be looked at .... thought ur dad was a master mb tech ..... as a "master" this woulda been one of the main things he woulda looked at on an older e55 amg being they are very pricey an require star to install.
Welcome to older, e55 world

I thought the same as a master mb tech ??Everyone thinks there going to buy a used car with no issues, Expect to have a wallet for 2k at times ..


Well,l this why they sell them not to deal with it anymore Most of time they sell due to these reasons or they get a better car.I hate used cars your just being someone else's headaches 90% of time ..

When I sell my cars is that I just get bored and move up to different cars.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 11:39 AM
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I thought the same as a master mb tech ??Everyone thinks there going to buy a used car with no issues, Expect to have a wallet for 2k at times ..


Well,l this why they sell them not to deal with it anymore Most of time they sell due to these reasons or they get a better car.I hate used cars your just being someone else's headaches 90% of time ..

When I sell my cars is that I just get bored and move up to different cars.
haha thats exactly what i do i make my cars perfect but being a tinker i have to have something to tinker on .... so i get bored when i cant fix or modify anything anymore sell the car to a lucky sob an start something new.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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haha thats exactly what i do i make my cars perfect being a tinker i have to have something to tinker on .... so i get bored when i cant fix or modify anything anymore sell the car to a lucky sob an start something new.
I know you for a while now,you love to tinker !!

How are things on your car?
If you want pm me.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by w204_racing
why is it when I press the brake pedal I need a ton of force just to slow down slightly? Do I need new brake pads? There also is a noise is I push brake pedal and release it, it makes a pump noise or something. The car makes a squeak noise as the car speeds up from a stop, I believe it’s the transmission shifting. When I shift to any gear a ticking noise comes after each shift. I will provide videos of the sound once I get home from school.

i want to fix this all before I buy a spoiler and do engine mods.
Do you have a 204 or a 211? 204's do not have sbc.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by w204_racing
why is it when I press the brake pedal I need a ton of force just to slow down slightly? Do I need new brake pads? There also is a noise is I push brake pedal and release it, it makes a pump noise or something. <snip>
Your car is "brake by wire". It is possible that a previous owner put track pads on the car or some other pads with a lower coefficient of friction. Connect your car to Star, verify there are no codes pertaining to the brake system, then install new pads that are known to work well on the E55.

Be aware you *MUST* disable the SBC before attempting to change the brake pads. SBC is computer controlled and will activate from one of multiple inputs. When activated, it produces approximatley 900 psi of pressure and will crush your fingers if you are in the midst of swapping pads. Multiple posts on this subject. Read!
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alexanderfoti
Do you have a 204 or a 211? 204's do not have sbc.
He just bought an E55.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 01:56 PM
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My father is a master tech but I’m just tired of asking him everything. He doesn’t give one **** about what goes on with my car he will only help if he needs to. So now I’m coming to you guys, he did check it and we scanned with no codes being thrown at us. I got these pads but they were $28 lol for fronts. Is that real or not, I make return them idk
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 03:10 PM
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Did you buy the cheapest **** pads you could find?

Brakes and tires. Two things you should never cheap out on.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 04:44 PM
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So it begins!

don't cheap out on **** son

fcpeuro is your best source

also check ecstuning and pelicanparts if all fails
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by w204_racing
My father is a master tech but I’m just tired of asking him everything. He doesn’t give one **** about what goes on with my car he will only help if he needs to. So now I’m coming to you guys, he did check it and we scanned with no codes being thrown at us. I got these pads but they were $28 lol for fronts. Is that real or not, I make return them idk

as was told to you these cars DO NOT respond to cheap parts .... i suggest akebono euro ceramic pads they produce low dust an dont squeek textar are good an cheaper but squeek bad an an produce tons of dust. The lowest i see these akebono euros are usually over 140 for frt an rears bout a 100 sometimes 80 for rear ..... u were warned you have to pay to play with these cars
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 05:57 PM
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Yeah my brakes are like 100% worn, they are shaving off caliper when I turn them by hand lol. I'm replacing them soon with quality parts of course, but this has no impact on how hard I have to press the pedal to stop..
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by E55amg0220
as was told to you these cars DO NOT respond to cheap parts .... i suggest akebono euro ceramic pads they produce low dust an dont squeek textar are good an cheaper but squeek bad an an produce tons of dust. The lowest i see these akebono euros are usually over 140 for frt an rears bout a 100 sometimes 80 for rear ..... u were warned you have to pay to play with these cars
lol I didn’t know how bad they were, I knew they were cheap as hell. I’ll buy good ones
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 06:36 PM
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Your system need to be bleed out ..
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 07:03 PM
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Your system need to be bleed out ..
that’s what I figured, nothing crazy. So it’s definitely a bleed.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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that’s what I figured, nothing crazy. So it’s definitely a bleed.

Sigh..."nothing crazy" he says.

PM me your email address so I can send you roughly 56 pages of technical information on your SBC brake system. Read all of it and observe the restrictions/warnings before you damage the brake system at a very high repair cost or, worse, injure yourself or your assistant...crushed fingers or brake fluid in the eyes is not a joke.

The W211 AMG section has very technically competent participants. Most of us here have anywhere from 6 to 45 years of experience on you so we might just know something you don't.

Experience prevents mistakes. Experience comes from mistakes or by listening before doing. We're trying to keep you from gaining experience the hard way.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 11:00 AM
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Don't you need star to do the bleed properly?
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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Sigh..."nothing crazy" he says.

PM me your email address so I can send you roughly 56 pages of technical information on your SBC brake system. Read all of it and observe the restrictions/warnings before you damage the brake system at a very high repair cost or, worse, injure yourself or your assistant...crushed fingers or brake fluid in the eyes is not a joke.

The W211 AMG section has very technically competent participants. Most of us here have anywhere from 6 to 45 years of experience on you so we might just know something you don't.

Experience prevents mistakes. Experience comes from mistakes or by listening before doing. We're trying to keep you from gaining experience the hard way.

AMEN!!!!!!!! Couldnt have said it better i have been a tech for 38 years and have worked on everything from hondas too lambos an the merc e55 while not a hard car to work on is very picky as to parts it likes an ones is doesnt. It takes a very steady hand an attention to detail. But one thing it needs more than anything is a STAR i finally got one cause its needed even for things as simple as bleeding the brakes. Even a lambo gallardo is simpler to work on an not as finicky.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by E55amg0220
AMEN!!!!!!!! Couldnt have said it better i have been a tech for 38 years and have worked on everything from hondas too lambos an the merc e55 while not a hard car to work on is very picky as to parts it likes an ones is doesnt. It takes a very steady hand an attention to detail. But one thing it needs more than anything is a STAR i finally got one cause its needed even for things as simple as bleeding the brakes. Even a lambo gallardo is simpler to work on an not as finicky.
yea thank you guys! Much respect. When I said it’s easy or simple, I meant it’s better than the SBC sorry for not clarifying.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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yea thank you guys! Much respect. When I said it’s easy or simple, I meant it’s better than the SBC sorry for not clarifying.
no worries hopefully its just an accumulator their cheap an simple i even did mine without the star total investment 50 bucks an half hr. But i recommend the star to bleed it an depressurize it. It can be done without the star but have to be very careful
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Like the other guys said if you're going to work on it yourself at least get the real part EVERY time. Yes even airmatic compressor (ask me how I know). 100% get the real deal or a verified 3rd party, do research here. These cars are heavy, they're fast, you don't want **** going wrong when you're doing 140mph
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