W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Programa VS Pros Cons?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Mar 7, 2018 | 10:32 PM
  #1  
ikrazyfoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 7
From: Gainesville, Georgia
09 E63, 92 VR4, 94 VR4, 85 MR2
Programa VS Pros Cons?

I'm getting ready to start playing around with mods and the first thing is to spruce up the exterior a little bit. I purchased a set of rims, stud conversion kit and I'm looking into lowering modules. Are there any pro's or con's related to the Programa Lowering module? The only con I can see is that it is not simply pnp and apparently some threads say that the unit has a 20mA draw with the car off.

I also looked at lowering links but I like the idea of being able to raise the car on the fly. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2018 | 10:38 PM
  #2  
knvs's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 176
Likes: 1
only negative I have is that it doesn't go low enough....
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2018 | 11:21 PM
  #3  
ikrazyfoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 116
Likes: 7
From: Gainesville, Georgia
09 E63, 92 VR4, 94 VR4, 85 MR2
Originally Posted by knvs
only negative I have is that it doesn't go low enough....
Can't you adjust it more with the 4 rotary switches inside the controller? or are they strictly for fine adjustments?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2018 | 01:31 AM
  #4  
Strigoi's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,249
Likes: 257
From: Richmond, CA
2001 E320 Wagon, 2006 LBZ Silverado, 2007 E63 (sold), 2001 E55 (sold)
I'm happy with my lowering links. The raise car button will bring it up enough that I don't have to worry too much about driveways.

I'm not one to really mess with the ride height once I have it set where I like. I currently want to bring the front end of my E63 down about another 1/2" or so. I won't touch it after it.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2018 | 08:37 AM
  #5  
knvs's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 176
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by ikrazyfoo
Can't you adjust it more with the 4 rotary switches inside the controller? or are they strictly for fine adjustments?
not sure what you're talking about. There are no rotary switches on the programma lowering ELM. You have a controller module connected via USB. You can lower the fronts by 5mm increments if I'm not mistaken. you can control the front wheels independently, but the rear is not.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2018 | 10:46 AM
  #6  
oneslow55's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 804
Likes: 62
E55 amg
Never a fan of links are it's like cutting springs on a Honda ..Only way is star from volts or using(secret dev mode) it can get crazy low any height you want without volts and least but not least invest in the programa,..
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2018 | 12:04 PM
  #7  
hachiroku's Avatar
SPONSOR
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,647
Likes: 818
From: Worldwide
2007 Mercedes E63 AMG
when you open the black box there are rotary switches within. this basically itself is the V1 of the ELM. i am not certain but feel that ELM's all have limitations on how much they can lower due to safety thresholds. they feel there is a limit on how much they allow you to lower to avoid incident. or maybe that is the limit on how much airmatic allows...
__________________
-BARRY

​​​Follow us on instagram @eightysixtuned
https://www.eightysixtuned.com
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2018 | 01:11 PM
  #8  
oneslow55's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 804
Likes: 62
E55 amg
Originally Posted by hachiroku
when you open the black box there are rotary switches within. this basically itself is the V1 of the ELM. i am not certain but feel that ELM's all have limitations on how much they can lower due to safety thresholds. they feel there is a limit on how much they allow you to lower to avoid incident. or maybe that is the limit on how much airmatic allows...
More then 1.5 inches max you will mess the bags up...This why star has the volts set that way for max lowering
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:03 PM.

story-0
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-2
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-5
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-6
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE