Torque Specs
11-06-2018, 12:04 PM
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11-06-2018, 01:14 PM
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11-06-2018, 08:21 PM
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102-4701 IS THE HEAD STUD PART NUMBER. THEY ARE FOR A NISSAN HEAD BUT ARE CORRECT FOR OUR ENGINES. TORQUE IS 85LB'S WITH THERE ASSEMBLY LUBE. EBAY-- $160.00 PER HEAD
RODS AGAIN ARE 28LB WITH A 6.5 STRETCH SO GET A STRETCH GAUGE.
VRP SELLS THE ROD BOLTS.
WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING?
RODS AGAIN ARE 28LB WITH A 6.5 STRETCH SO GET A STRETCH GAUGE.
VRP SELLS THE ROD BOLTS.
WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING?
11-06-2018, 10:57 PM
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Thanks so much for this.
I have a stunning low mileage Weistec E55, About 5 years ago we put in a built block (Darton sleeves, custom Mahle pistons ARP rod bolts) that I got from the US. Car has been awesome - until now, that is. Started using water. We pulled the heads and found that the top of the sleeves have become pitted (corrosion) - that's a story for another day. The end result is that the block is toast and I have these beautiful Mahle pistons that I can only use in a sleeved block, I'm not comfortable with any local engineering shop installing new Darton sleeves and I don't want to incur the expense of brining in another sleeved block from the US. I've sourced a used engine locally. We've taken the heads off and the block looks super-clean. Because I can't use the Mahle pistons, I'm exploring the options. Whichever route we decide to take, we will definitely be re-using the ARP rod bolts and installing the ARP head bolts that you've recommended, so thanks again for the info. Not easy to get this info from the guys gere in dark Africa
I have a stunning low mileage Weistec E55, About 5 years ago we put in a built block (Darton sleeves, custom Mahle pistons ARP rod bolts) that I got from the US. Car has been awesome - until now, that is. Started using water. We pulled the heads and found that the top of the sleeves have become pitted (corrosion) - that's a story for another day. The end result is that the block is toast and I have these beautiful Mahle pistons that I can only use in a sleeved block, I'm not comfortable with any local engineering shop installing new Darton sleeves and I don't want to incur the expense of brining in another sleeved block from the US. I've sourced a used engine locally. We've taken the heads off and the block looks super-clean. Because I can't use the Mahle pistons, I'm exploring the options. Whichever route we decide to take, we will definitely be re-using the ARP rod bolts and installing the ARP head bolts that you've recommended, so thanks again for the info. Not easy to get this info from the guys gere in dark Africa
11-07-2018, 11:00 AM
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Wow that sucks on the sleeves. sounds like low coolant to water mixture reared it's head?? What did you pay for the pistons? Looking at pricing for a set now.
Also what boost where you running.
Also what boost where you running.
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11-07-2018, 11:25 AM
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The overwhelming probability is inadequate anti-freeze although this is not conceded by the person who services my car.
The pistons were included in the pricing for the short block. I’ll scratch around to see if I can find the breakdown. Ill probably be looking to sell them shortly. Just want to make sure that I can’t use them in the rebuild (which seems to be the case). If you’re interested, email me on am50@mweb.co.za.
I'm only seeing 16psi but then I am at 5,500 feet above sea level. I was previously running a more aggressive pulley combo which yielded around 17.5 psi but this would intermittently trigger the dreaded lean (hiccup) issue so I went more conservative to get away from this
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The pistons were included in the pricing for the short block. I’ll scratch around to see if I can find the breakdown. Ill probably be looking to sell them shortly. Just want to make sure that I can’t use them in the rebuild (which seems to be the case). If you’re interested, email me on am50@mweb.co.za.
I'm only seeing 16psi but then I am at 5,500 feet above sea level. I was previously running a more aggressive pulley combo which yielded around 17.5 psi but this would intermittently trigger the dreaded lean (hiccup) issue so I went more conservative to get away from this
anthony
Last edited by ajm55; 11-07-2018 at 12:11 PM.
04-13-2019, 09:06 AM
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Wow very interesting ,just came across this thread looking for correct torque values on ARP Head stud kit ARP 102-4701 for another member asking what I set my value at , for the Nissan 2.0L the 11mm stud bolt torque value says 30-60-90 using the ARP lube on both sides of the washer ,,when I built my motor I was told 85 ft lb that being said I found values on 11mm ARP as high as 110 ft lb on a diesel , I guess nobody really knows being this is a cross fitment of two different applications ,so I’m not making any recommendations I did find a sheet on their website saying 92 as the highest , AND what’s up with the Darton sleeve failure ? I mean I thought they were the best hands down ? , and 28 ft lbs on the rod bolts is half of what the Carrillo rods are which I used they were 58 , unknown what rod bolts were being torqued to that spec, I sent an e mail to ARP explaining the use of Nissan head studs in the Mercedes lets see what they say .
QUOTE=ajm55;7596940]Thanks so much for this.
I have a stunning low mileage Weistec E55, About 5 years ago we put in a built block (Darton sleeves, custom Mahle pistons ARP rod bolts) that I got from the US. Car has been awesome - until now, that is. Started using water. We pulled the heads and found that the top of the sleeves have become pitted (corrosion) - that's a story for another day. The end result is that the block is toast and I have these beautiful Mahle pistons that I can only use in a sleeved block, I'm not comfortable with any local engineering shop installing new Darton sleeves and I don't want to incur the expense of brining in another sleeved block from the US. I've sourced a used engine locally. We've taken the heads off and the block looks super-clean. Because I can't use the Mahle pistons, I'm exploring the options. Whichever route we decide to take, we will definitely be re-using the ARP rod bolts and installing the ARP head bolts that you've recommended, so thanks again for the info. Not easy to get this info from the guys gere in dark Africa[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=ajm55;7596940]Thanks so much for this.
I have a stunning low mileage Weistec E55, About 5 years ago we put in a built block (Darton sleeves, custom Mahle pistons ARP rod bolts) that I got from the US. Car has been awesome - until now, that is. Started using water. We pulled the heads and found that the top of the sleeves have become pitted (corrosion) - that's a story for another day. The end result is that the block is toast and I have these beautiful Mahle pistons that I can only use in a sleeved block, I'm not comfortable with any local engineering shop installing new Darton sleeves and I don't want to incur the expense of brining in another sleeved block from the US. I've sourced a used engine locally. We've taken the heads off and the block looks super-clean. Because I can't use the Mahle pistons, I'm exploring the options. Whichever route we decide to take, we will definitely be re-using the ARP rod bolts and installing the ARP head bolts that you've recommended, so thanks again for the info. Not easy to get this info from the guys gere in dark Africa[/QUOTE]
04-13-2019, 11:36 AM
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Speaking of sleeved blocks.....need a damaged "need to be sleeved" M113 block complete with main caps for next years project. Cnterline you mentioned a while back you might have one cheap ?? Still have it ?
04-14-2019, 05:24 AM
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Wow very interesting ,just came across this thread looking for correct torque values on ARP Head stud kit ARP 102-4701 for another member asking what I set my value at , for the Nissan 2.0L the 11mm stud bolt torque value says 30-60-90 using the ARP lube on both sides of the washer ,,when I built my motor I was told 85 ft lb that being said I found values on 11mm ARP as high as 110 ft lb on a diesel , I guess nobody really knows being this is a cross fitment of two different applications ,so I’m not making any recommendations I did find a sheet on their website saying 92 as the highest , AND what’s up with the Darton sleeve failure ? I mean I thought they were the best hands down ? , and 28 ft lbs on the rod bolts is half of what the Carrillo rods are which I used they were 58 , unknown what rod bolts were being torqued to that spec, I sent an e mail to ARP explaining the use of Nissan head studs in the Mercedes lets see what they say]
