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Re: Re: Going out on a limb here
Originally posted by Brav
Halfway true.. I agree with some of the points you made, HOWEVER: this is a very isolated incident with 3 or 4 boardmembers.. how can you attribute this to the etire forum? Don't think so. I've been posing and lurking for years, and this is by far the most welcoming and informative boards. The BMW forum at roadlfy is much more abriasive, as I was over there for years while I had my M3. I also was on all the Audiworld boards when I had my A4. You are WAY off to say that they are at a higher level than this board. Half of the posts on either site are a waste of time. "Noob" and "OWN3D" this and that.. bunch of BS. But at the same time they are a bit more technicaly and mechanicaly savy. But thats the nature of the owner/car.
Seriously, comparing this board to a honda board is BS. As stated, a few people went overboard. Happens. And yes it is really annoying at this point, I wish it would just stop.
Halfway true.. I agree with some of the points you made, HOWEVER: this is a very isolated incident with 3 or 4 boardmembers.. how can you attribute this to the etire forum? Don't think so. I've been posing and lurking for years, and this is by far the most welcoming and informative boards. The BMW forum at roadlfy is much more abriasive, as I was over there for years while I had my M3. I also was on all the Audiworld boards when I had my A4. You are WAY off to say that they are at a higher level than this board. Half of the posts on either site are a waste of time. "Noob" and "OWN3D" this and that.. bunch of BS. But at the same time they are a bit more technicaly and mechanicaly savy. But thats the nature of the owner/car.
Seriously, comparing this board to a honda board is BS. As stated, a few people went overboard. Happens. And yes it is really annoying at this point, I wish it would just stop.
Judging by additional comment made by norb and edward connory today, further demonstrated that point.
A board would be at its best if different voices are heard. By stating opposite of majority of view here, labels such as liars, small man sydrom, shrek, or having personal agenda are applied like there is no tomorrow.
If you equates such labeling to be a welcoming and informative forum standard, then I have nothing to say further.
This is not simply 3 or 4 members overboard, but a general lack of open mind on this board.
I still firmly believe that this board is by far one of the worst forum to have open discussion about car. I really failed to see what Edward Connory's statement is true.
Stating trouble and dismay with my E55 is labeled as having an agenda. By fighting back and defending myself I am demeaning this board?
This board brought disgrace to itself when 3 of the members decide that they are the **** of this board and all opposition voices are to be shutoff via any means.
Simple as that. To my dismay, majority of the member on this forum thinks the same way. All opposition voices are personal agenda (at least Edward Connory proved that today).
Small man syndrom? small *****? Why not take a look into the airing of trash here by certain individual who has nothing better to do than bring crap onto this board.
It's tiring. But its obvious that this forum has not changed it's narrow minded view.
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to norb,
I found it hard to believe that in country as free as U.S. There are pure maggot like you, who simply refuses to be open minded.
You are no much different from any white supremist. Your action and post are no different from those of Hale.
Small man syndrom? small *****? you are doing the same exact same thing as a racist would label minority.
I own my E55. I have the right as much as you do to post my experiences with it. What ever i say or do with my car is really none of your business.
If you want to continue this labeling, I would be more than happy to engage this with you. I got time to burn.
TO ME, YOU ARE SIMPLY A RACIST IN DISGUISE.
I found it hard to believe that in country as free as U.S. There are pure maggot like you, who simply refuses to be open minded.
You are no much different from any white supremist. Your action and post are no different from those of Hale.
Small man syndrom? small *****? you are doing the same exact same thing as a racist would label minority.
I own my E55. I have the right as much as you do to post my experiences with it. What ever i say or do with my car is really none of your business.
If you want to continue this labeling, I would be more than happy to engage this with you. I got time to burn.
TO ME, YOU ARE SIMPLY A RACIST IN DISGUISE.
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You scratch my back, I scratch yours
Originally posted by CynCarvin32
I am thinking of taking the E55 and the E500 to the streets of willow and letting my associate (a 15 year club racer) try to chase me down in the E55. ...
Now on the big track at willow, the E55 would be quicker for it has some seriously long straight sections...
I wonder what the E55 would run...wheels turning in my head!
I am thinking of taking the E55 and the E500 to the streets of willow and letting my associate (a 15 year club racer) try to chase me down in the E55. ...
Now on the big track at willow, the E55 would be quicker for it has some seriously long straight sections...
I wonder what the E55 would run...wheels turning in my head!
To me, 0.84g vs. 0.85g or track time is completely irrelevant. The push on my back when I floor the car is far more satisfying than any numbers a clocking device can give me.
I picked the car for its diversified use as a daily driver, for the same token, if I bought an Elise I would not be complaining about how I wish it would be more civilized outside of the track, and if I bought a C55 for its nimble size, I would not be unhappy about its lack of interior room.
On internet forums, I find it more fun chatting about why we like our cars than otherwise. We have an Odyssey and we're utterly disappointed with its squeaks and rattles, would I go to ClubOdy and express my disappointment? No, if I go there I would rather look for a solution and if none to be found, I move on and share with others my satisfaction about the positive side of the car.
Why bother spoiling others fun?
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Re: You scratch my back, I scratch yours
Originally posted by W210
On internet forums, I find it more fun chatting about why we like our cars than otherwise. We have an Odyssey and we're utterly disappointed with its squeaks and rattles, would I go to ClubOdy and express my disappointment? No, if I go there I would rather look for a solution and if none to be found, I move on and share with others my satisfaction about the positive side of the car.
Why bother spoiling others fun?
On internet forums, I find it more fun chatting about why we like our cars than otherwise. We have an Odyssey and we're utterly disappointed with its squeaks and rattles, would I go to ClubOdy and express my disappointment? No, if I go there I would rather look for a solution and if none to be found, I move on and share with others my satisfaction about the positive side of the car.
Why bother spoiling others fun?
I don't think expressing your dismay is spoiling fun of others. I went to sienna board to express to stupidness of laser cruise control. None of the response i got was small ***** or labeled as liar.
There are tons of post acorss many forum that would discuss negative personal experiences.
Take a look at acura-tl.com. Do you ever see any of their forum member start calling other small *****? shrek? because they posted problem with their car or negative view.
Heck now. I have been in Acura-tl forum for 4 years. I have never seen anyone who post a different view that would bring out crap like this.
The only other forum that behave worse are the roadfly boards.
This is what's troubling to me is that i would assume that people who can afford to buy an E55 would be at least have a much better background and politeness. However, this forum is directly opposite of social norm. In fact, this forum is about as good as a civic forum.
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Originally posted by krispykrme
This is what's troubling to me is that i would assume that people who can afford to buy an E55 would be at least have a much better background and politeness. However, this forum is directly opposite of social norm. In fact, this forum is about as good as a civic forum.
This is what's troubling to me is that i would assume that people who can afford to buy an E55 would be at least have a much better background and politeness. However, this forum is directly opposite of social norm. In fact, this forum is about as good as a civic forum.
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When I said this forum, I meant MBworld as a whole. Not E55 forum.. from my experience the vast majority of people are friendly and helpfull..
In all honesty, I don't have a problem when people bring up problems or talk sh*t on cars, even MB's. My MB has pissed me off on several accounts. Its when people attack each other over opinions thats lame. And the fact taht you like to drive your E500 over E55 is ok with me, I wouldnt have a problem with that. But whoevers fault, its lame its gone this far regardless. I'll stay out of it now, since I don't know all the details..
In all honesty, I don't have a problem when people bring up problems or talk sh*t on cars, even MB's. My MB has pissed me off on several accounts. Its when people attack each other over opinions thats lame. And the fact taht you like to drive your E500 over E55 is ok with me, I wouldnt have a problem with that. But whoevers fault, its lame its gone this far regardless. I'll stay out of it now, since I don't know all the details..
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OMG, what the heck has this thread turned into?
Anyways, the RS6 is one hot car if they could get rid of those wheels! Right size but the've been around too long as well as the AMG CL wheels...
Anyways, the RS6 is one hot car if they could get rid of those wheels! Right size but the've been around too long as well as the AMG CL wheels...
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Re: Re: My take here....
Originally posted by krispykrme
Aman.
I never had any intention to purposely smear E55. But as you said, I had much higher expectation of the E55.
I guess may be the other owner did not have experience like me on a daily basis to switch between E55 and E500.
But i just found that E500 is just a better and fun car to drive. It's more nimble, more linear in response than E55.
Also like you said, I really do not know what AMG did to make the E55 so weired.
May be my E55 is an odd ball. But I just can't warm up to it. I just find myself reaching to the E500 keys more and more and more....
I really think that my E500 is a great car. I know i am in minority here. But this is how i really feel.
Aman.
I never had any intention to purposely smear E55. But as you said, I had much higher expectation of the E55.
I guess may be the other owner did not have experience like me on a daily basis to switch between E55 and E500.
But i just found that E500 is just a better and fun car to drive. It's more nimble, more linear in response than E55.
Also like you said, I really do not know what AMG did to make the E55 so weired.
May be my E55 is an odd ball. But I just can't warm up to it. I just find myself reaching to the E500 keys more and more and more....
I really think that my E500 is a great car. I know i am in minority here. But this is how i really feel.
E500 handles better than an E55!? Gonna have to see for myself.
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Man, I tell you came over here to check things as I do every once and a while and found this mine field. A lot of OT going on. Kind of reminds me of Iraq...DUCK RPG!!
Anyway back to the topic......agreed about the depreciation "issue":o with Audi but if the response here is any indication, hopefully that is behind them.
Cheers,
Anyway back to the topic......agreed about the depreciation "issue":o with Audi but if the response here is any indication, hopefully that is behind them.
Cheers,
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Originally posted by G Unit
Very nice, but I think I read in Autocar that it isn't going to use the Gallardo V10.
Very nice, but I think I read in Autocar that it isn't going to use the Gallardo V10.
Here's a quote from a press meeting:
"Next year Audi will launch its new S6 while the even more potent RS6 will make its appearance in 2006. Both performance models will be available in sedan and Avant guise.
The new performance A6s will give cars such as the Mercedes E55 AMG and forthcoming BMW M5 a run for their money.
Audi will fit the S6 and RS6 with a re-engineered version of the current 4.2 V8 featuring the company's FSI technology.
Insiders say that the new S6 will have a power output of about 300 kW. The even more potent RS6 will pump out a massive 370kW. Earlier it was suggested that these Audis will get Lamborghini's new V10 unit, but this engine is apparently too big for the A6".
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Insiders say that the new S6 will have a power output of about 300 kW. The even more potent RS6 will pump out a massive 370kW. Earlier it was suggested that these Audis will get Lamborghini's new V10 unit, but this engine is apparently too big for the A6".
From what I understand ther has been an RS4 test mule with a lambo V10 in it on the Nurburgring. It would seem likely, that if infact that is the case, that they could well fit it in the larger RS6. To me it would seem like a better tactic to say,"we can't fit the V10 in it" and to keep people woundering. But who really knows.....only quattro Gmbh
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Originally posted by Bauer
I believe this is a media bait and switch. Why would Audi come out and tell all it's competitors what it is going to put in a car that probably wont see market for another two years? It would give MBZ, BMW and others time to adjust or produce "special" models.
From what I understand ther has been an RS4 test mule with a lambo V10 in it on the Nurburgring. It would seem likely, that if infact that is the case, that they could well fit it in the larger RS6. To me it would seem like a better tactic to say,"we can't fit the V10 in it" and to keep people woundering. But who really knows.....only quattro Gmbh
I believe this is a media bait and switch. Why would Audi come out and tell all it's competitors what it is going to put in a car that probably wont see market for another two years? It would give MBZ, BMW and others time to adjust or produce "special" models.
From what I understand ther has been an RS4 test mule with a lambo V10 in it on the Nurburgring. It would seem likely, that if infact that is the case, that they could well fit it in the larger RS6. To me it would seem like a better tactic to say,"we can't fit the V10 in it" and to keep people woundering. But who really knows.....only quattro Gmbh
But if V10 from gallardo is indeed going to destined to RS6, who would want to buy a gallardo?
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But if V10 from gallardo is indeed going to destined to RS6, who would want to buy a gallardo?
The Le Mans quattro is a different story. Thats why I believe the La Mans will be less of a car than the Gallardo. Probably with a max of 450 hp or move the Lambo product line up in power so that they can incrase the Le Mans power. Just all speculation at this point.
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300 kW is approx 400 hp.
As for the 'bait and switch' tactic, that's certainly a possibility.
On the other hand, I knew what the specs were (close approximation) on the current E55 about 2 years before it was released.
When I read that Audi was going to stick with its current 4.2 liter V8 that didn't seem realistic to me given the BMW V10 and MB's pending 6.3 liter N/A engine.
But who knows. Stranger things have happened.
Who would have thought that BMW would blunder so badly on their flagship 7 series, or that Pontiac would spend the money to actually bring the Aztek to market.
As for the 'bait and switch' tactic, that's certainly a possibility.
On the other hand, I knew what the specs were (close approximation) on the current E55 about 2 years before it was released.
When I read that Audi was going to stick with its current 4.2 liter V8 that didn't seem realistic to me given the BMW V10 and MB's pending 6.3 liter N/A engine.
But who knows. Stranger things have happened.
Who would have thought that BMW would blunder so badly on their flagship 7 series, or that Pontiac would spend the money to actually bring the Aztek to market.
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Originally posted by amg55
300 kW is approx 400 hp.
As for the 'bait and switch' tactic, that's certainly a possibility.
On the other hand, I knew what the specs were (close approximation) on the current E55 about 2 years before it was released.
When I read that Audi was going to stick with its current 4.2 liter V8 that didn't seem realistic to me given the BMW V10 and MB's pending 6.3 liter N/A engine.
But who knows. Stranger things have happened.
Who would have thought that BMW would blunder so badly on their flagship 7 series, or that Pontiac would spend the money to actually bring the Aztek to market.
300 kW is approx 400 hp.
As for the 'bait and switch' tactic, that's certainly a possibility.
On the other hand, I knew what the specs were (close approximation) on the current E55 about 2 years before it was released.
When I read that Audi was going to stick with its current 4.2 liter V8 that didn't seem realistic to me given the BMW V10 and MB's pending 6.3 liter N/A engine.
But who knows. Stranger things have happened.
Who would have thought that BMW would blunder so badly on their flagship 7 series, or that Pontiac would spend the money to actually bring the Aztek to market.
Same holds true for the E65.
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I think the new front end desing is quite nice and a different change in direction for the traditional treatment given to this area of a car. The new SLK and McLaren have also made bold statements in design beyond convention. In time we will get used to this new frontal exposure as other marques are also producing statements of authority in one rear view mirror. Chrysler has done it with the 300 as well. At least the trunk lid is non-controversial!
I have been waiting to see last week's Wall Street Journal article show up here or on the E Class forum, but have not seen any related posting. Let's hope Audi's brakes are up to the job and does not need to recall 680,000 vehicles for faulty brake systems like MB did for all new E and SL Class cars. My neighbor's new RS6 drives very well.
I have been waiting to see last week's Wall Street Journal article show up here or on the E Class forum, but have not seen any related posting. Let's hope Audi's brakes are up to the job and does not need to recall 680,000 vehicles for faulty brake systems like MB did for all new E and SL Class cars. My neighbor's new RS6 drives very well.
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