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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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Bosch 010 Bleeding Method HELP!

I swear I feel like I’ve read every DIY out there for this but after trying to debate with my mechanic whether or not it is necessary to bleed the system I’ve decided to take matters into my own hands... How in the hell are you supposed to put power to the pump?! Yes, I’ve seen and read the typical, “use alligator clips to a battery or jump pack”, but how/where do you connect them to? No way you can fit alligator clips inside the connector leads. I’ve bought some clear tubing from the hardware store now all I need to know is how to get power to it. Please Help!
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:25 PM
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If you blip the throttle to wide open throttle it will force the pump on. It won't run for very long but it will run it. This works great at the track as well, go into neutral and blip it to wide open very quick and watch those temps come down right before a run!
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by f8l ws6
If you blip the throttle to wide open throttle it will force the pump on. It won't run for very long but it will run it. This works great at the track as well, go into neutral and blip it to wide open very quick and watch those temps come down right before a run!
I’m referring to bleeding the air out of the cooling circuit after installing a new pump.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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You can force the pump to turn itself on, with the car running, by stabbing the throttle to the floor all the way for a quick second. The computer knows you hit WOT and will turn on the intercooler pump, even if the car is just sitting. I used to do this in the staging lanes all the time and it worked great.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by f8l ws6
If you blip the throttle to wide open throttle it will force the pump on. It won't run for very long but it will run it. This works great at the track as well, go into neutral and blip it to wide open very quick and watch those temps come down right before a run!
Dang, you beat me to it!
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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I’m referring to bleeding the air out of the cooling circuit after installing a new pump.
Yes and what I said to do will force the pump to run. The car thinks you are about to rip it so it fires the pump on. Do this a few times until the system is bled, thats exactly how I did it myself.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeJErnst
Dang, you beat me to it!
Haha and we both got the same bad ideas at the track. Love the website by the way. Thanks for putting it together!

BTW we both forgot to say that this works with the car in park. Just blip it in park. We just got racing on the brain over here.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Smh... that is not much help guys
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Smh... that is not much help guys
???

We are telling you the easiest way to get the pump to turn on so you can bleed it. It just requires the car to be running. You don't need to use any jumper wires or anything, just start the car, let it warm up, then stab the throttle to the floor for a split second. Your pump will turn on and you can bleed the system.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 03:33 PM
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If you didn't disconnect the supercharger coolant system from the main coolant system all you have to do is drive the car and it will self bleed out over a week or so.
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Just activate the pump in STAR while crimping the line next to the bleed port.
EDIT: Control Units/Drive/ME/Actuations/M44(charge air cooler circulation pump)

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Originally Posted by bbirdwell
Just activate the pump in STAR while crimping the line next to the bleed port.
EDIT: Control Units/Drive/ME/Actuations/M44(charge air cooler circulation pump)
No access to STAR
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeJErnst
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We are telling you the easiest way to get the pump to turn on so you can bleed it. It just requires the car to be running. You don't need to use any jumper wires or anything, just start the car, let it warm up, then stab the throttle to the floor for a split second. Your pump will turn on and you can bleed the system.
Not to sound like a dumbass but is it alright to remove the reservoir cap when the system is under pressure after normal driving?
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Originally Posted by gjunon
If you didn't disconnect the supercharger coolant system from the main coolant system all you have to do is drive the car and it will self bleed out over a week or so.
Well this is what I originally thought but every DIY is so adamant about bleeding it manually. The system has not been split and is in factory stock form.
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Not to sound like a dumbass but is it alright to remove the reservoir cap when the system is under pressure after normal driving?
I normally avoid doing that, even though the reservoir is designed to direct the spray downward instead of up into your face like the old days. I would take off the cap when the car is relatively cool, then route your bleed line over to it and follow the directions above to get the pump running.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 03:48 PM
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Open your hood and look at your supercharger. Look slightly to the left of it, and you'll see two metal lines coming out from underneath. Those are the intercooler lines. You'll see one line has a nipple on it that is capped off before the hard line goes to rubber. With the car off, remove the nipple and run an appropriately sized clear hose from the nipple to your coolant reservoir. Clamp down on the hose below the nipple with vice grips (put tape or something on the end as to avoid potentially damaging the hose). Now get into the car, turn it on, and floor it for a second. This will activate the pump, and the intercooler system will begin to bleed.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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Well this is what I originally thought but every DIY is so adamant about bleeding it manually. The system has not been split and is in factory stock form.
Then it will self bleed. No need to bleed it. Most of the DIY people here have split their systems. I changed mine out when I bought the car no issues and I never bled the system.
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Originally Posted by JoeJErnst
I normally avoid doing that, even though the reservoir is designed to direct the spray downward instead of up into your face like the old days. I would take off the cap when the car is relatively cool, then route your bleed line over to it and follow the directions above to get the pump running.
This is exactly what I did. My system isn't split but I did it anyway. I used a clear hose and after a few times the bubbles were gone and I capped it back up. You may not even have to do it if your system isn't split, but I had just gotten the car and it was expensive so I didn't want to go breaking it already.
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Read the link in my signature, doesn't get any easier than that. Unlike other AMG supercharger models, the E55 is not completely self bleeding and people do have temperature issues occasionally when not done correctly.

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I’m honestly not suspecting it to be full of air, the car runs like a top. Just wanted some advice and reassurance. Appreciate all of the responses 👊🏽
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I got quite a lot of air out. It will only affect back to back pulls as it heat soaks. You will still get a single decent pull out of it unless you are going 0-200.
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