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Old 12-18-2018, 12:13 PM
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Oi mate,
EPC shows two bolts for the coil packs.

OLD = N000000001147

NEW = N000000002179 (Same engine cut-off point when they started using plastic covers #60061250)
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-.../000000002179/



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Old 12-18-2018, 01:01 PM
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If you notice, the newer bolt part number is from 2010 and newer. This matches the change to plastic covers. I guess my local dealer and genuine included those since I ordered updated covers and they would be required while including my VIN number?



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Old 12-18-2018, 01:43 PM
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Lets hope again! I can't wait for the order to arrive. Thank you so much guys!!! I thought I get stuck with this, even if I order a different one, it's not guarantee that it would fit.

Those people who sale parts at 3 different dealerships that I've talked to, how couldn't they figure this out? Updated parts should compatible with old ones. They checked my vin and gave me this valve cover 156-016-20-05 and 000000-001147 for the ignition coil mount bolts. I told them they don't fit, they said it should fit, that I didn't do it right, and told me to bring it to the dealership for service. I was so pissed off the last few days to get anything done. Thank you so much Solo wing and hachiroku.
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Yes, part # 000000-002179 is what I need. I was able to mount the coil packs to the plastic valve cover. Thanks again.
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Yes, part # 000000-002179 is what I need. I was able to mount the coil packs to the plastic valve cover. Thanks again.
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Pardon my ignorance but why does one need to replace the entire valve cover? I am about to do my valve cover gaskets as they are leaking. Replacing the gaskets is all that is necessary in my case, correct? Or am I missing something? What all do I need? Do you recommend replacing or doing anything else while im in there? 07 e63. Thanks
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Oh, my valve cover was broken. I think the tech over tightened a bolt in the back. Replacing the gasket will take care the leak.

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When replacing the gaskets, all I need is the gaskets, spark plug ring seals, and RTF seal (for vent chamber)? I can reuse the bolts, right? Am I missing anything? Any recommendations on anything else I should do while in there? I don't need plugs.

Sorry to hi-jack...I haven't seen many write ups on the e63 specifically. Thanks for your help!

Edit: Actually, should I do the plugs? They were changed 22k ago but that was in 2014. I think the manual says every 5 years or 100k.

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I would check the camshafts/ lifters for wear while the covers are removed, just to make sure everything is in good shape.
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When replacing the gaskets, all I need is the gaskets, spark plug ring seals, and RTF seal (for vent chamber)? I can reuse the bolts, right? Am I missing anything? Any recommendations on anything else I should do while in there? I don't need plugs.

Sorry to hi-jack...I haven't seen many write ups on the e63 specifically. Thanks for your help!
hey, my concern too. I plan on doing this soon and only bought the valve cover gaskets and thought that was it. So I also need plug ring seals and RTF seals? My understanding is the bolts are reusable.
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hey, my concern too. I plan on doing this soon and only bought the valve cover gaskets and thought that was it. So I also need plug ring seals and RTF seals? My understanding is the bolts are reusable.
Now that I look back, when I was reading about the vent chamber RTF gasket, it was talking about the 211 e55 so that is probably not applicable for the 63. Vent chamber: https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...asket-diy.html . But there is a cam shaft and timing cover on 63? I also feel like I read about someone putting RTF on the bolts or something? Hopefully someone can chime in.

Lastly, The plug ring seals are included in the kits I've looked at so I assumed you needed them. https://www.autohausaz.com/catalog/c...set?s=d&page=1
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Can anyone chime in and confirm what is needed for the e63 valve cover gasket job?
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Gasket and sealant, If you have the plugs rings, go ahead and replace them too. Make sure you clean out the old gasket and sealant. Dont apply to much seal but make sure you apply on every corners. The bolts can be reused, be careful not over tighten. The driver side at the back is hard to remove the bolts. Good luck!
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So just use some RTV on the new valve cover gasket and that is it? No other cover or anything needs to be resealed, correct? Im guessing any hi temp RTV will be fine.

Also, should I change plugs? They got changed 5 years ago but only 20k put on the car since then. Runs good. Would you change them out? Good idea or just wait? Im leaning toward not doing them but cant decide.

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From what I've read you're only supposed to put a dollop of RTV at the cam lobes and not around the whole gasket.
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Thanks! Im guessing plug ring seals aren't necessary to replace? Id rather order Benz gaskets and they aren't included.
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I changed my plugs at 60k miles/7 years. The old plugs were still very clean. I dont think you need to change yours at 20k miles.
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Pardon my ignorance but why does one need to replace the entire valve cover? I am about to do my valve cover gaskets as they are leaking. Replacing the gaskets is all that is necessary in my case, correct? Or am I missing something? What all do I need? Do you recommend replacing or doing anything else while im in there? 07 e63. Thanks
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Oh, my valve cover was broken. I think the tech over tightened a bolt in the back. Replacing the gasket will take care the leak.
Same here...I only had to replace mine because the last dealer that serviced the car snapped part of the valve cover and glued it together. Mercedes of Beverly Hills or something. I have the paperwork somewhere. The factory valve covers are very lean and low weight. each of the bolts will need to be cross torqued in multiple passes otherwise you will snap the end where the bolt goes through. the valve cover has a built in stopper so at a given point you'll bottom that stopper out and if you don't evenly cross pattern tighten each bolt you'll snap the valve cover. had to explain without a picture.
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I bought the MB valve cover gaskets from FCP and they didn't come with plug ring gaskets; but I do now see a set with them, but not before. I'm going with don't need to do (I hope)?? I didn't buy any gasket sealant either, which would you recommend? I was told don't need the sealant, but I see others have used it, and I know it can help. I'm learning as I go!
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My plug rings were still in good shape while the gasket was pretty much melted out. You will need to seal the gasket, at least at the 4 corners.




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I ended up getting the MB gaskets and didn't get the plug seals. I took a gamble and assumed since I never heard anyone discussing them, its not necessary and id rather have the Benz gaskets. As for the RTV, I just got the black https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/37467 . I'll use a little bit as Dustin suggested? I know its not necessary. I'll use my best judgement when I get in there. It cant hurt?


Does any know the torque specs for the bolts?
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Any RTV will work fine, right? Or do I need the Benz stuff? I got RTV 598 high performance silicone. https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/37467
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thanks for all the follow-up and help!
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Originally Posted by anomadtoo View Post
I bought the MB valve cover gaskets from FCP and they didn't come with plug ring gaskets; but I do now see a set with them, but not before. I'm going with don't need to do (I hope)?? I didn't buy any gasket sealant either, which would you recommend? I was told don't need the sealant, but I see others have used it, and I know it can help. I'm learning as I go!
why didn't you order from mercedes? every time i've ordered these they came as a set with the plug gaskets from what i remember. they need to be replaced at the same time ALWAYS.
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