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Old 05-18-2019, 05:48 PM
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16 amps to 25 amps is a lot but hey good luck and ya I do know my stuff
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16 amps to 25 amps is a lot but hey good luck and ya I do know my stuff
The reprogrammed EMP pulls 18 amps not 25 thats straight from the pump manufacturer and from 2 guys that tested it.
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Call Lingenfelter let us all know

21-25amps depending on restrictions


and btw the cwa100 pulls 7.3amps running, tested myself
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As we speak the car is in the shop getting the KC and Tank installed along with my EC headers. I did a before test on my A/C temps just to get an idea of what changes there will be in temps after the KC install. After about 2 minutes of the car being on the temps at the vents were 45 degrees. After about 10 minutes it was as low as 35 degrees. Not sure but my cars A/C can get fairly cold at times were your literally freezing in the car. All the vents were reading the same temps even the back ones. Once i get my car back i will look at the A/C temps again and look at some IAT's as well and let you guys know whats going on. I will not be running a HE with my system just the KC and the 2.5 Underhood Tank. I do have a Superflow Pump not sure if that helps any with circulating the water quicker but will see.
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21-25amps depending on restrictions


and btw the cwa100 pulls 7.3amps running, tested myself
Well ita been in for almost 2 weeks all wired perfect and is pullling 18.8 amps, battery and alt are working great car has no probs with lights on, ac running, wipers going, and pump running at full blast. Alt shows 14.5 with no drops at idle or while cruising. I dont have a big stereo just a stocker so hopefully all stays good.
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As we speak the car is in the shop getting the KC and Tank installed along with my EC headers. I did a before test on my A/C temps just to get an idea of what changes there will be in temps after the KC install. After about 2 minutes of the car being on the temps at the vents were 45 degrees. After about 10 minutes it was as low as 35 degrees. Not sure but my cars A/C can get fairly cold at times were your literally freezing in the car. All the vents were reading the same temps even the back ones. Once i get my car back i will look at the A/C temps again and look at some IAT's as well and let you guys know whats going on. I will not be running a HE with my system just the KC and the 2.5 Underhood Tank. I do have a Superflow Pump not sure if that helps any with circulating the water quicker but will see.
Excited to hear how it goes brother good luck and keep us up to date
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Good luck hope it works out long term for you
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Good luck hope it works out long term for you
I’m hoping as well, not expecting any miracles but it’s a step I hope in the right direction. Me doing a 76mm VRP Pulley having ZPE do griptech machining, KC, Tank and Mid Headers, No primary cats with the re-tune. I’m hoping for 500whp and make it reliably. Doing the headers found this out and I’m changing motor and tranny mount. First pic is the one on the right the new motor mount and the one in the left is the destroyed one and the bottom is the other.



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Well the KC and the 2.5 underhood tank was finished up today. I roll up to get my car and noticed man i should’ve told the installer to not use the Heat Exchangers. So now i got the KC, 2.5 gallon underhood tank and still the 2 Heat Exchangers. Today was 75 degrees ambient and cruising on the freeway got as low as 54 IAT’s. Stayed that way for an hour driving back. Also had my headers done no tune yet sent in the file to Jerry once he sends the retune for the new set up ill load it and see if there is any noticeable difference in power.
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I was under the impression that our cars disengage the AC at WOT.
I can see where the KC would help with IAT's while staging, but how is going to help the high IAT's we see at the 1000' mark?
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Ofcourse i go to turn on the car and the a/c light flashes. I guess when i turned it off getting it back and then went to turn it on it cycled and i need to reset the a/c. This happened last year when i changed a a/c hose the mechanic after filling it back up with freon had to reset it the a/c system. Is there a way i can do it. On my car I cant press defrost and circulating its the same toggle button 06e55.
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I had to go back today i lost my a/c so no freon. Got it refilled and hoses clamped on tighter by the mechanic. Temps from what i can tell inside the car are a tad higher I'm averaging 50-55 at high fan speed and then drops down to 35-38 degrees at low fan speeds. My IAT’s after 2 hours of driving from 72 degrees to 84 degrees, I drove from the beach area to valley thats why the change in ambient. It was a constant 55-57 IAT’s. It recovers super quick from wide open throttle runs. It will drop from 88 IAT’s to 60 in 8-10 seconds and then settle to 55-57 after 30 seconds. Overall knock on wood I’m very happy with it.
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If you ever get the chance, would love to hear how this does around a circuit or during more extended 'abusive' use. I understand the AC compressor turns off at higher RPM (as in all/most cars) so if you're doing a canyon run in mexico would it be worse than a single or dual HE setup?

Sounds like for drag racing and general street use around town the KC is the BOMB.
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Originally Posted by PieRat
If you ever get the chance, would love to hear how this does around a circuit or during more extended 'abusive' use. I understand the AC compressor turns off at higher RPM (as in all/most cars) so if you're doing a canyon run in mexico would it be worse than a single or dual HE setup?

Sounds like for drag racing and general street use around town the KC is the BOMB.

I still have both Heat Exchangers running along with the KC and underhood tank. Ill keep you posted if i do canyon runs for sure in mexico, hehe.
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It'd be cool if you could setup an electronic bypass valve that turns off/on the flow to the HE's when the AC is engaged, or based on a thermostat. I could see the HEs working against the KC when the temps are below ambient.
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Originally Posted by PieRat
It'd be cool if you could setup an electronic bypass valve that turns off/on the flow to the HE's when the AC is engaged, or based on a thermostat. I could see the HEs working against the KC when the temps are below ambient.

Ya for sure it will be working against it. I needed to make the decision wether running wide open throttle for a long time is more important to have that extra capacity with the heat exchangers and continued cooling after a/c shuts off or give short bursts and only use the cool water left in the tank when i go wide open throttle if i had removed my heat exchangers. I think both ways the recovery is quick in my case as we speak its a very quick recovery. The bad is my IAT’s don't start off as low like as if i just ran kc and tank only.
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Yeah I'd probably keep the he's too coz I love boosting all night long!
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This is a run from 61-89mph. I didn’t have room to go any longer. There is for sure a delay in the app. When I get a chance and it’s safe I will do a longer run 50-120mph is what I’d like to do. Either way here is a small vid.


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Yes please bigger pull!! What sort of ambient temp this got?

Edit to add: Also, if you could do a bunch of like back to back pulls so like IDK maybe 30mph to 100 brake to 30 and then back to 100 again a few times in a row

I'm curious, maybe with the HE's and the Killerchiller after a bunch of beating the killer chiller works at removing all the heatsoakies, I kinda have my car pack up after 3-4 good hard pulls where the IAT's just never get back down nice and low, I've only got the eurocharged HE probably need a tank and a secondary and a KC..

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Yes please bigger pull!! What sort of ambient temp this got?

Edit to add: Also, if you could do a bunch of like back to back pulls so like IDK maybe 30mph to 100 brake to 30 and then back to 100 again a few times in a row

I'm curious, maybe with the HE's and the Killerchiller after a bunch of beating the killer chiller works at removing all the heatsoakies, I kinda have my car pack up after 3-4 good hard pulls where the IAT's just never get back down nice and low, I've only got the eurocharged HE probably need a tank and a secondary and a KC..
Time of this pull 82-84 ambient. To give an idea usually at for example 85 ambient, I was at about 98-102 IAT’s cruising. This was with superflow pump, always on, 2 heat exchangers. Anything above 90+ it would be worse 110-115 IAT’s. It would lose efficiency. So if i were to look at a bigger picture and my set up with the kc is not ideal even as it is the swing at cruising is for example and sorry if it gets confusing. Were before when I’m at 98-102 IAT’s at 85 ambient now i would be 55-61 IAT’s. Then you start to get a real picture of how big the swing is even with the set up i have now.

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