W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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What do you guys think of this? Is this mod worth it?
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:53 AM
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No
it had been done years ago by urbanworm and some others ,wasn’t worth the hassle

guys need to remember that guys have made these cars go down the track very fast without complex and expensive mods.

go back and search for lowprofile, forrestgump, Chawkins, loco, rbj etc
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Old May 19, 2019 | 11:55 AM
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harsher shifts don't add faster times,that body on vides and in person does crap..Placebo .
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Old May 19, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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Yup
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Old May 19, 2019 | 01:09 PM
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A hard or harsh shift is not what you want. A "push" firm shift is what you would want / look for.
Always the better way than just banging into gear.
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Old May 19, 2019 | 01:16 PM
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Trying to reinvent the wheel lol

how you doing SICAMG
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Old May 19, 2019 | 06:10 PM
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Good thanks ! Got the the car back together...engine and trans freshin up for this years racing. Really hopeing to improve on last years times with more boost and timing along with custom header work. Loved working on this engine as they are pretty cool !!!
On a side note for the transmission even with much tighter clearances the suckers will still shift the same thanks to the learning effect in the ECU. The ECU is real "smart" on keeping shifts right where it want's them to be LOL.

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Old May 19, 2019 | 07:21 PM
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Great to hear man
i hope you run great times!!

yes as much as you work on the transmission the ecu likes somethings to remain the same lol
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Great to hear man
i hope you run great times!!

yes as much as you work on the transmission the ecu likes somethings to remain the same lol

Wish there was a way to change the way the ecu goes about making it shift, i mean they sure got it right in the 722.9 and later cars.

On a side note was talking with russel at sound german automotive and he said he has a programmable TCU for our cars. I think joe ernst is currently using it in his car but requires him there to tune it. But havent heard to much on it
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Old May 19, 2019 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by E55amg0220
Wish there was a way to change the way the ecu goes about making it shift, i mean they sure got it right in the 722.9 and later cars.

On a side note was talking with russel at sound german automotive and he said he has a programmable TCU for our cars. I think joe ernst is currently using it in his car but requires him there to tune it. But havent heard to much on it
Another member PM’d and suggested Russell @ Sound German Automotive as well.
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I had an ecu tune once to test out and completely changed the way the transmission shifted in a good way, so like sicamg said ecu controls stuff in the shift too
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I had an ecu tune once to test out and completely changed the way the transmission shifted in a good way, so like sicamg said ecu controls stuff in the shift too
Who is able to do so an would be willing??
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Old May 19, 2019 | 10:31 PM
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Tuner isn’t around anymore

he was a RT guy
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Tuner isn’t around anymore

he was a RT guy
That sucks maybe somewhere down the road
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Old May 19, 2019 | 11:45 PM
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Last I heard he was some where on the west side of Florida
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Old May 20, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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I said it before and hate to repeat it but......had a pulley made one time from Demetre , DTK, and the belt slip was horrible. I had to "fix" the belt grooves on a lathe and all was well. But for my trouble he sent me a TCU and I was great full but leary of installing it since I had no issues with my Eurocharge version. All I can say is it was unbelievable. The trans shifted FANTASTIC and I was thrilled with it .Way beyond my expectations. But....over a couple weeks it resorted back to the same old shifts as time went on. So again the ECU figured it out !!! The only way around it was to put the Euro back in for a few weeks, let the ECU learn that one, then swap the DTK version in.
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Old May 20, 2019 | 08:45 AM
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Demetre was peddling at stolen weistec tcu file and in my opinion really revved too high, I know that weistec made a revision
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Old May 20, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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I remember you mentioning that a while back....that's why I didn't want to say much about it LOL !!
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Old May 20, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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Ya , you know me, I call it as I see it lol
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if only there was a mod to speed up shifting from paddle input for upshifts and downshifts.
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Originally Posted by E55amg0220
Wish there was a way to change the way the ecu goes about making it shift, i mean they sure got it right in the 722.9 and later cars.

On a side note was talking with russel at sound german automotive and he said he has a programmable TCU for our cars. I think joe ernst is currently using it in his car but requires him there to tune it. But havent heard to much on it

Hey guys, it's been a while since I lurked here on the W211 forum. My E55 is retired from racing so I can concentrate 100% on my CLK55.

I do have the standalone TCU from Sound German Automotive (Russell Drake) in the CLK and it's working great. I wrote a little about it on my blog: https://stumptownbenz.com/first-test...e-of-the-year/

I'm in the middle of installing the transbrake right now; I'll do a full writeup once I have that working.

Bottom line is, if you guys want improved shifting, look at the standalone controller first. It allows you to adjust A LOT of parameters that affect shift quality. If you still need more pressure than the TCU can provide, then look to upgrade the valve body to one of Russell's "150%" units (pressure is increased to 150% of stock)
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does the standalone TCM fix the problem with paddle shifters and the delay between shifter and actual shift?
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does the standalone TCM fix the problem with paddle shifters and the delay between shifter and actual shift?
I don't know. I never shift manually.
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What did you pay for the stand alone Joe ?
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Old May 20, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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What did you pay for the stand alone Joe ?
It was about $1200. That includes the controller, harness, driveshaft speed sensor (which I’m not using yet) and support from Russell.

I don’t see any published prices on his site so I don’t know what his current pricing is, you should check with him directly.
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