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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 09:56 PM
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CWA100 pump Deal!

Back in 2011 I did a post called "Intercooler pump you didnt know about" here on MBworld. I never felt comfortable calling an OEM part a performance part and selling it to an unknowing buyer as a performance upgrade. So rather than make it the "official MBH pump" then add some catchy name like "Super Duper Flow pump" I just dropped that info here in MBworld for all like minded performance junkies to use. So to follow up on that, I stumbled on a really good deal on the CWA100 pump with a mounting bracket and a connector. Obviously you cut on end of the connector and splice that end into your cars electrical system. In any event, aand without any more delay. Check out this deal on Summit Racing.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-8501-m58

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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 04:07 AM
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Great post. Thats a good price alright.

Last time I saw them priced like that was on ebay about 5 years ago when I bought mine!!
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:21 AM
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VRP claims this pump only flows a tad more than the Bosch 010 pump under load. I wonder how their test was done ? Great price either way !
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 08:41 PM
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Very cool! Also just to add to this, Tecomotive also sells the pump as well as a connector for pretty much the same price.

The price they show includes EU taxes, but for those of us in the US the price drops almost 30$ after you proceed through checkout and EU taxes are removed. I bought one from them a while back with the connector came out to about $280 shipped.
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 04:40 PM
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Just bought one and it's dead... does nothing !! That bites !!
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
Just bought one and it's dead... does nothing !! That bites !!
Oh no, from summit?! Hopefully they are good about returns. Did you put a full 12V straight to the control wire or mess with a PWM controller or anything like that?
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 04:56 PM
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No just put a power and ground to the two wires, white and black, and nothing, just a tiny little spark. It only has a two wire connector, am I missing something ??
Bought it on line but it is in a Ford box brand new.

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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 05:53 PM
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Try feeding water to it.
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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 06:08 PM
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OK....I am a little stupid. These pumps do not instatly turn on, there is a 3 second delay and it will slowly spin up. Unfortunatly it wont work with my dual tank set up because all pumps have to be instantly on to keep the tanks balanced with water.
On a side note I did some back to back testing with my Johnson pump and this new one. The CWA pumps absolutly kicks the crap out of the Johnson. Going bucket to bucket with water {5 gallon"} it will empty one bucket 3 times faster than the Johnson !! Crazy flow and pressure...or open flow rate pressure so to speak but can't test dead headed pressure !!!!

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Old Dec 26, 2019 | 08:30 PM
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Oooh yay I'm looking forward to mine arriving hopefully I just need that and a few more heat exchangers around the place to get some decent cooling..
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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OK just got done with install. As some of you know I run a dual tank set up ...two in tank pumps and a Johnson "helper" return pump. I have a regulator installed to keep both tanks equal and the Johnson pump is installed right before the primary return tank. I decided to install the CWA pump up front to "push" water back and all I can say is this thing kicks ***. Water flow is fantastic over the Johnson pump and I had to adjust the regulator to compensate for it do to the large increase in water flow. Money well spent for sure !!!! CWA A +++++++

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^^^ Yep the Johnson pump is a joke thats what mine had in it when I got it.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 01:56 AM
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Do I need to be concerned with frothing running just the pump and upgraded HE? Old pump used to see the fluid when bleeding now its all just froth!! Might need to add some more heat exchangers to slow it all down a bit..

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Why would you slow it down ? Frothing is from air being mixed in with the water and may need to be bled out more.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 02:25 PM
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Yep going to bleed more. I read somewhere ages ago too much pump can cause frothing as the turbulence in the water causes the water itself to degas and froth. I doubt the pump is too powerful I'll continue to bleed the system!

I just flushed the coolant water mix last night for pure water and water wetter.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PieRat
Yep going to bleed more. I read somewhere ages ago too much pump can cause frothing as the turbulence in the water causes the water itself to degas and froth. I doubt the pump is too powerful I'll continue to bleed the system!

I just flushed the coolant water mix last night for pure water and water wetter.
If youa re getting foam or frothing, you should look at your coolant fluid. Either the bump is cavitating or soemthing int eh coolant is foaming up. Are you running a water wetting agent like Royal Purple or Redline?
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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 09:26 PM
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Pretty sure this is a CWA50 pump from a 13-14 GT500. Good upgrade, but I don't think this is a CWA100. I bought the kit. Gonna call Pierburg to confirm, but after reading a few threads on some Ford forums the consensus is it's a CWA50 and that an MB AMG pump A0005000486 (CWA100) can be had as an upgrade.


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Old Jun 7, 2020 | 09:41 PM
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Here's the bracket P/Ns from Ford:
DR3V 8B503 BB (rear)
DR3V 8B503 CA (front)

A little trimming and welding you can do this:

GT500 bracket welded to E55 bracket

GT500 bracket welded to E55 bracket

Like a glove
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looks great. that is interesting to that it might be a 50. I'll dig some more on this
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looks great. that is interesting to that it might be a 50. I'll dig some more on this
is it a cwa 50?
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