Belmondo

from Eric over at RS6.com
Those that take their E55's to the track might find it interesting.
VIDEO Here (save as)

zoink

Duhh..... 996TT lost from NSX?? More power, AWD, german eng..... must be the driver

M5KILLR

that nsx driver took killer lines to stay ahead as long as he did, very impressive. no s the lambos won but that was awesome.

Jon200

saw it last week. IMO not a very good race

For the first half, I thought it was an NSX commercial. The last three cars were too far behind. And the CSL beat the 911 turbo and was on par in straight line acceleration with the 360?

love those straight line acceleration of those Lambos though

benzboy

Erik

I have seen several of videos made from those crazy Japs. Fun to whatch, but I have a feeling that the results they get is not always due to the performance of the cars involved. Some of the drivers are extremly agresive. Last video I saw a driver managed to run a 360 of the road by hitting it when he tried to pass on the inside.

Conserning this video. the 996 Turbo was an automatic and that makes the Porsche quite a bit slower. I would expect the 996 to be faster or at least equally fast as the 2 Lambos on a racetrack. The NSX-R is much faster than most guys give it credit for, but NOT faster than any of the cars involved in this race. The CSL is NOT as fast as the 996 T in straigh line, almost as fast as the 360 BUT definatly as fast as both of the in the twisties, probably faster.

I also have a feeling after whatching the video that the NSX driver got the lead a little to easy for it to have been realistic.

Anyway it was fun to whatch

Jspeed

Don't find anything wrong with that since the CSL laps the Nurburgring faster than a 911 turbo and has nearly identical acceleration figures to the Ferrari 360.

Jakpro1

THAT.....is...EXACTLY....what I want to happen with New M5 and E63. Only then can we put this BS to rest.....

Oh now.....here we go again!!!

medici78

You couldn't be more wrong on this point. When the 996TT was first released, it was widely publicized that the Tiptronic cars were consistently faster on the track. In fact, in Porsche circles, it is widely known that driver Hurley Haywood favors the Tiptronic 996TT for this very reason. Granted, an automatic Porsche is not for everyone, and many argue that it takes away some of the fun, but the consistency of an auto tranny is what gives it the advantage. It also happens to be the same tranny we enjoy in our E55's.

Erik

You sure about that? I must admit I have not seen any track times comparing the 2 so that was based on "common sence".
You may be right but that is very suprising, to put it mildly....
The thing I am sure of is that the 996T manuel is faster in straight line.

Anyway the car is fast regardless of type of gearbox

BMWEATR

I agree, you can easily get better lap times with the auto sport mode on in the E55's!

medici78

I don't see what is so surprising? The driver doesnt have to concentrate on proper shifting, heel-toe, etc. and can concentrate more on corners. Even the most die-hard 6-speed drivers will concede that the Tiptronic is faster on the track. In a 1/4 mile, given equal cars, auto vs. manual trans, my money will always be on the guy with the auto. The last remaining parameter where the 6-speed would probably have the advantage is on the top end highway runs.

04E55 AMG

NSX's are very slow when compared to that company. Having owned one after my 911 TT I found it rather disappointing speed wise but it still handled like a go-cart. When the NSX came out in the early 90's it was a monster but after a decade of very little change, many every day cars can out run it in a straight line.

E55 RUSS

911 Tubro Tip is 0.6 slower to 62 then 6 speed stick...

I dont think that tiptronic would be faster on track...With a driver who can handle the stick ...

Erik

Dont forgett the car in this video is the NSX-R, and that one is much faster than the normal NSX. Especially on a track.
The NSX is definatly NOT my kind of car, but its quite capable considering the tiny engine. Totaly overpriced also IMO...

Just for fun, here is a link where it can be compared to the fantastic CLK DTM monster of AMG.
Even if it is totaly destroyed in straight line it puts up a good fight on both the "ring" and on Hockenheim. Also note that the DTM car is on special R- tires where the NSX use "normal" tires.
http://www.track-challenge.com/compa...ar1=52&Car2=83



I have to agree with M5 rus with this, I cant understand why a auto 996T should be faster on a track when it is definatly slower in any straigh line exercise ( quite a lot to accoring to tests in Europe), at least in the hand of a competent driver....

BIGKERM'S04E55

THANKS !

2000UZJ

Hunter,

Welcome. As a quick learner and one who observes from all angles you should probably of clicked "new thread" rather than post in one that is 11 years old.

Also, a high performance German sedan probably wasn't the best car to learn on.

You are welcome for the reply.