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Old Apr 23, 2021 | 10:10 AM
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I realize that our vehicles navigation systems are old and outdated. But, I'm curious to know are there any navigation updates available for your vehicles on CD, beside my 2014 CD that I currently have.
I called my local Mercedes Dealer, and they said that the latest CD is the 2015/2016. I don't except that. Do you know of any other updates that are available for a 07-09 E63?
Before you mention it, I know that there are better navigation aids out there.
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Old Apr 24, 2021 | 09:23 PM
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I realized that the dealership was most likely telling me the truth, he said that aren't any CD listed past 2015/2016. Since, I couldn't find any updates on my own online, I resorted to eBay and purchased the latest update.

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Old Apr 29, 2021 | 07:50 PM
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You will need to update your firmware, before that nav CD will work.


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Old Apr 29, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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You will need to update your firmware, before that nav CD will work.
So how do you do that ? The CD that I purchased turned out to be the same one that I had 😪
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 01:20 PM
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If the CD you've purchased is the same, assuming you CD is 2015 version, then you have the latest version of nav for our cars.
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 01:31 PM
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If the CD you've purchased is the same, assuming you CD is 2015 version, then you have the latest version of nav for our cars.
Yes, I'm acutely aware of that fact now. But it's my fault, I should have check the CD before I ordered another one.
I assumed that the one in the car was 2014. Now, I have an extra one, which isn't a big deal, as it was pretty cheap.
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Old May 5, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuille36
Yes, I'm acutely aware of that fact now. But it's my fault, I should have check the CD before I ordered another one.
I assumed that the one in the car was 2014. Now, I have an extra one, which isn't a big deal, as it was pretty cheap.
Going to pick your brain a bit. The CD that came with your car and the one you've purchased on ebay, what is the size of the files on each? I'm curious to see if they are identical in how much information is burned on each one.
Thanks in advance.
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Old May 5, 2021 | 06:13 PM
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The CDs are exactly the same, same stock and part numbers. So one could assume the data is the same as well. But I will check the data, as the new CD doesn’t work, but the old one does. Go figure. The seller told me that I need to purchase the firmware and install that first before it will read the CD. I don’t know if updating the firmware will make that much of a difference if the data is the same.
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Old May 6, 2021 | 12:39 AM
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You've probably searched the following site, but for those who want to see what's available for your ntg1, ntg2.5, ntg4, etc systems, see below...

https://mb.navigation.com/home/en_US/MBNA/USD

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Old May 6, 2021 | 11:11 AM
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You've probably searched the following site, but for those who want to see what's available for your ntg1, ntg2.5, ntg4, etc systems, see below...

https://mb.navigation.com/home/en_US/MBNA/USD
That's the exact Product Part Number T1000-23902, that is on my CD, that I just ordered. And is exactly the same as the one that is currently running in the car.
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Old May 8, 2021 | 07:33 PM
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That's the exact Product Part Number T1000-23902, that is on my CD, that I just ordered. And is exactly the same as the one that is currently running in the car.
There's a 2018 NavTech for North America and Europe for the CLS. Can't comment on the E. It's the last version for our system, and it's a DVD --- not a CD.
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Old May 9, 2021 | 09:03 AM
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There's a 2018 NavTech for North America and Europe for the CLS. Can't comment on the E. It's the last version for our system, and it's a DVD --- not a CD.
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10 years seems to be the magic number where DB support starts to go away. Quite frankly my Garmin with US and European maps and lifetime free updates (US maps) is superior. Sometimes I stick it on the Command screen. I do find that the Euro maps change little, so I still use the Command Nav simply because it's there. The Command Nav in my ML400 bi-turbo/4 cam/V8 diesel (made in Alabama, but never sold in the US) is absolute junk and I never use it, but the SUV is great.
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Old May 10, 2021 | 09:08 AM
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A few minutes ago, I put the CD in my computer to read how much data was actually on the CD, and the computer displayed a formatting cue, as if there was never anything on the CD to begin with.
So, I going back to the seller requesting another NAV CD and the firmware CD as well.
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Old May 11, 2021 | 10:38 AM
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So the seller has requested my year, make and model. I wonder if he will send me another CD with the firmware, or just argue that his CD was good.
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Old May 15, 2021 | 03:36 PM
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So the seller has requested my year, make and model. I wonder if he will send me another CD with the firmware, or just argue that his CD was good.
All eBay sellers are just selling pirated copies. Half of them aren't even replication discs, they're just simple DVD-R's that the individuals burn.

And you wonder why you're having issues with it?
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Thanks....But I'm already aware of that fact. I just want what I paid for. Although, I don't really need it.
As the Nav CD that is currently in the cars works perfectly. I have to admit, I didn't check the date on the CD before placing my order.
The seller has mailed out a new one.
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Thanks....But I'm already aware of that fact. I just want what I paid for. Although, I don't really need it.
As the Nav CD that is currently in the cars works perfectly. I have to admit, I didn't check the date on the CD before placing my order.
The seller has mailed out a new one.
If you're running NTG1 I can send you the 2018 one. You keep saying CD, but it's a trunk DVD.
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Originally Posted by equitiesguy
If you're running NTG1 I can send you the 2018 one. You keep saying CD, but it's a trunk DVD.
That would awesome, I didn’t realize that there was a 2018 version of the NTG1 out. I assume that it’s compatible for the W211 E63?
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That would awesome, I didn’t realize that there was a 2018 version of the NTG1 out. I assume that it’s compatible for the W211 E63?
Can't absolutely guarantee it, but I don't think there's anything particularly updated about the CLS NTG1 system.
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Can't absolutely guarantee it, but I don't think there's anything particularly updated about the CLS NTG1 system.
I don’t think so either, as the CLS share many of the same components as the E. But you never know until you try right?
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Going to pick your brain a bit. The CD that came with your car and the one you've purchased on ebay, what is the size of the files on each? I'm curious to see if they are identical in how much information is burned on each one.
Thanks in advance.
So, I had a chance to check the data on the CD, and it has 3.61 GB of data on it.
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If you're running NTG1 I can send you the 2018 one. You keep saying CD, but it's a trunk DVD.
I've been waiting for you to send that 2018 DVD. I sent you a PM with my address.
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I've been waiting for you to send that 2018 DVD. I sent you a PM with my address.
After my offer to you, 4-5 people made the same unsolicited request over PM. I'm not interested in distributing other people's software, so I'm not sending it anyone.
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After my offer to you, 4-5 people made the same unsolicited request over PM. I'm not interested in distributing other people's software, so I'm not sending it anyone.
Understood 😩
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