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Old 11-29-2021, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hachiroku
could you share which shop you purchased the 390mm adapters from?
If you have the calipers used with the 360mm rotor, a simiple 1.125" aluminum round stock spacer 15mm thick will move the caliper out 15mm to allow for the 30mm larger diameter rotor to be used. Of course, 15mm longer bolts will be needed to allow for the spacer.
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Originally Posted by machild
If you have the calipers used with the 360mm rotor, a simiple 1.125" aluminum round stock spacer 15mm thick will move the caliper out 15mm to allow for the 30mm larger diameter rotor to be used. Of course, 15mm longer bolts will be needed to allow for the spacer.
Personally I'd go with the 6 pot caliper though. The pad design is superior in my experience on the newer caliper.
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Personally I'd go with the 6 pot caliper though. The pad design is superior in my experience on the newer caliper.
Yes, my post assumed the use of the 6 piston caliper over the earlier 8 piston caliper. I should have clarified that.
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Which rear bar does your car have?
I checked and it should be A2113202911 which is 21mm
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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55
I checked and it should be A2113202911 which is 21mm
There is no lo larger bar than that. Some people reduced the front caster from about 11.5* to something in the range of 7.5 - 8 .0*. This is an effort to improve the turn-in performance. Search for a posting or maybe more than one, where it details how the top ball joint mounting points are modified so the upper ball joint can be move forward to reduce the inclination of the knuckle.
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What i was wondering was, if the Eibach or H&R front swaybar for non airmatic cars is stiffer than the oem AMG one. Not sure if the AMG one is hollow or not and if the aftermarket ones are built differently. I'll probably try different tires at first and see how it is with those. Currently running Falken FK510 and want to switch to Michelin PS4Ss. Some guys on our german Forum said, their understeer was pretty much gone with the Michelins.
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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55
What i was wondering was, if the Eibach or H&R front swaybar for non airmatic cars is stiffer than the oem AMG one. Not sure if the AMG one is hollow or not and if the aftermarket ones are built differently. I'll probably try different tires at first and see how it is with those. Currently running Falken FK510 and want to switch to Michelin PS4Ss. Some guys on our german Forum said, their understeer was pretty much gone with the Michelins.
I'm fairly sure the front bar is hollow. The question about an aftermarket front bar has been asked but no one seems to know of any that will do differently. Tires do make a differnce and some here have upped the width - maybe 265, and have found a big reduction in understeer.
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Originally Posted by machild
I'm fairly sure the front bar is hollow. The question about an aftermarket front bar has been asked but no one seems to know of any that will do differently. Tires do make a differnce and some here have upped the width - maybe 265, and have found a big reduction in understeer.
Maybe i'll play guinea pig and test it with the aftermarket swy bars. Worst case scenario, i can still put them in my other W211 E220 lol. Will 265 even fit without rubbing???
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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55
Maybe i'll play guinea pig and test it with the aftermarket swy bars. Worst case scenario, i can still put them in my other W211 E220 lol. Will 265 even fit without rubbing???
Wheel sizing, especially width and offset, will have a lot to deal with clearence. Report back what you end up doing.
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Originally Posted by machild
There is no lo larger bar than that. Some people reduced the front caster from about 11.5* to something in the range of 7.5 - 8 .0*. This is an effort to improve the turn-in performance. Search for a posting or maybe more than one, where it details how the top ball joint mounting points are modified so the upper ball joint can be move forward to reduce the inclination of the knuckle.
Here is a discussion about the inclination change. It is not the one I was thinking about (some posters do refer to that original posting) but it should give you and idea what the modification is doing. https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...alignment.html
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So I installed some carbon fibre to my car, fitment is quite good. Only thing bothering me, is the exhaust tips being tucked in so far. Are there any tricks to get the tips a bit further out?
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Just the tip?
Or the whole exhaust, but i didn't see a way, to get them further out. I know the fitment is perfect with the station wagon exhaust on the sedan with this diffuser, but getting a station wagon exhaust is just too much hassle. Especially since i have an E63 exhaust
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There is no way to correct this, outside of added additional exhaust piping to extend the tip out further. Don't feel bad, my E63 is in the same boat, although I do have a little more poking out.
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The exhaust tips look okay once the exhaust is hot and has extended a bit, so I guess I'll leave it like that for now.


Did some fiddling to my cooling system. I previously had one monster 2L cooler for the intercooler. I didn't like how the u der tray had been cut to make it fit and the 2nd oil cooler was replaced with a copper pipe. So I decided to once again take things into my own hands and tried something different. I now use a rather small cooler from the W213 E63 in the middle with a hose connection on both sides. That connects to a W176 A45 cooler in the wheel wheel, which then loops into an S55 cooler in the grill. Did a test drive on Friday and it worked better than expected. Outside ambient temp was 2°C (35.6F) and under full load the IAT was at 47°C (116.6F) when I hit 300. If it stays under 60°C with ambient around 15°C I'm happy.
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Wow what a nice build this is.

You should get the MK ultra "SLR" TCU. The gearshifting in the vid sounds stock very lazy but you were not thrashing the car around there either.

You can modify the sway bars front and rear by drilling holes closer to the round bar front and rear. Makes big difference too body roll but depending on spring rate you might be fine with your coilovers? Im on arnott airmatic so it made a big difference. And get the Ultra racing brace that goes from gearbox mounts too front subframe that makes an enormous difference to these cars under braking and general handling.


I like the look of the 8pot caliper more so than the newer caliper but realize the 6 pot performs better. I have a e63 wreck which Iv already sold the calipers and brakes off but would like to use the standard ABS and retrofit that to my e55 if the SBC ever ****s it self.

You should take the car to an ex shop and get them to add 25-35mm of 2.8" tube where it begins to flare out to the outside of the car where the mufflers start.





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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55
The exhaust tips look okay once the exhaust is hot and has extended a bit, so I guess I'll leave it like that for now.

Did some fiddling to my cooling system. I previously had one monster 2L cooler for the intercooler. I didn't like how the u der tray had been cut to make it fit and the 2nd oil cooler was replaced with a copper pipe. So I decided to once again take things into my own hands and tried something different. I now use a rather small cooler from the W213 E63 in the middle with a hose connection on both sides. That connects to a W176 A45 cooler in the wheel wheel, which then loops into an S55 cooler in the grill. Did a test drive on Friday and it worked better than expected. Outside ambient temp was 2°C (35.6F) and under full load the IAT was at 47°C (116.6F) when I hit 300. If it stays under 60°C with ambient around 15°C I'm happy.
Very nice upgrades on the charge cooling system. A couple of questions if I may:

Have you seperated the cooling system from the engine coolant system?

Is the W213 radiator coil under the bumper bar meaningfully larger or otherwise better at cooling than the stock radiator that was at that location?

What was involved with installing the S55 coil in front of the condenser?

What is the size of the A45 coil, Height x Width x Depth?

Thanks for your insight.
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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55

So I installed some carbon fibre to my car, fitment is quite good. Only thing bothering me, is the exhaust tips being tucked in so far. Are there any tricks to get the tips a bit further out?
I had this exact problem with the Suvneer rear diffuser. I thought I'd get used to it. I didn't. It drove me nuts and after a couple of days, I sent it back.

I don't think that they tested this design on cars with stock exhaust.
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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55

All the old airmatic parts removed.

In with the sexy H&R suspension.

Hello new coilover.

Recaro Sportster CS, very good for spirited driving. Looks very good in the W211 as well.

Recaro and CLK 63BS steering wheel. Car feels completely different to before.
Great build. A couple of questions:

How is the seating position of these seats compared to stock. My stock seats feel really high and not sporty. I'd like for them to be a bit lower.
Did you retain any electric functionality? Or are they manual now?
Are the seats stiff and firm or do they flex on acceleration and cornering?

How difficult was it to remove the air suspension?
Did you remove the air suspension buttons and replace them with blanks?
Did you code to tell the computer that you no longer have air suspension?

Thanks!

I've very interested because I think I may do these mods very soon.
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Very nice upgrades on the charge cooling system. A couple of questions if I may:

Have you seperated the cooling system from the engine coolant system?

Is the W213 radiator coil under the bumper bar meaningfully larger or otherwise better at cooling than the stock radiator that was at that location?

What was involved with installing the S55 coil in front of the condenser?

What is the size of the A45 coil, Height x Width x Depth?

Thanks for your insight.

Sorry for the late reply, but better late than never Yes, the cooling system is split. I use an M157/M278 water reservoir, because I'm a sucker for the oem look.

The S55 radiator was a bit of an hassle to install. I screwed the Rad with 4 screws washers and nuts to the AC condenser. Because of the water inlet, I had to remove the plastic intake and had to file a little bit of plastic off the left headlight housing.

Unfortunately I didn't measure the A45 radiator. I only measured the water volume. A45 cooler has 850ml, S55 has 350ml and E63 has 500ml. The E63 cooler is actually smaller than the stock unit, I only used it cause of the fittings on each side. I think I'll get a custom one made in the future, if the intake temps get too high in summer.
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