E55 W211, what its capable of....
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E55 W211, what its capable of....
Ok guys, bear in mind, the engine can rev to 6500rpm, max power occures at 6100rpm. I wouldn't be surprised if it pulled 330km/hr!
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It looks like he took the pic to! That takes even more guts. I had a camera in my car a few weeks back and hit 156, but no way was I gonna start messing with taking pictures.
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330km/h at the speedo doesnt really prove anything...
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Originally Posted by Mardeth
Other than that speedos are totally inaccurate, car could been have modified, photo photoshopped and the car could have been on a dyno etc.
Should I go on?
Should I go on?
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I don't get it? What's the point of proving this photo false? We all know that this picture was taken in an E55 and we all know that it is capable of achieving the speeds that the photo claims. I don't understand why everyone in this forum has to prove everyone else wrong...
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Why the doubts over the pic? I have already shown you all a video of the E55 pulling hard at 309km/hr, the car has 500bhp, long gearing and is aerodynamically excellent, why the doubts over its ability to hit 200mph?
The picture could be photoshopped, but does that prevent us from admitting the E55's true ability? Are you all ashamed somehow the E55 is that fast?
I can understand the validity of such a pic being questioned due to the digital readout being fuzzy, but to me, it seems there is the rather sinister matter of jealousy perhaps? Anger? Disbelief ? In the true capabilities of the E55. To think that some of you are possibly AMG owners, and are questioning this picture seems hard to comprehend. Other users attacking its validity are either migrating BMW M fans or trolls, or both
PS, I wish it was my car, I'll have to setlle for maxing out at 115mph in my A170!
The picture could be photoshopped, but does that prevent us from admitting the E55's true ability? Are you all ashamed somehow the E55 is that fast?
I can understand the validity of such a pic being questioned due to the digital readout being fuzzy, but to me, it seems there is the rather sinister matter of jealousy perhaps? Anger? Disbelief ? In the true capabilities of the E55. To think that some of you are possibly AMG owners, and are questioning this picture seems hard to comprehend. Other users attacking its validity are either migrating BMW M fans or trolls, or both
PS, I wish it was my car, I'll have to setlle for maxing out at 115mph in my A170!
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I would guess that the speedo is around 5% off at 300km/h (digital one more accurate?), meaning at a indicated 300 your actually going 285 etc.
Theres no way that a stock (or slightly modified) W211 E55 will go a GPS verified 330km/h. I mean the world record is 338km/h from a 607 Hp E 55 K (W210), I doubt that the E55 could get so close...
Great car but still...
Biggest problem I have is that you cant actually see the digital speedo.
Theres no way that a stock (or slightly modified) W211 E55 will go a GPS verified 330km/h. I mean the world record is 338km/h from a 607 Hp E 55 K (W210), I doubt that the E55 could get so close...
Great car but still...
Biggest problem I have is that you cant actually see the digital speedo.
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Originally Posted by Mardeth
I would guess that the speedo is around 5% off at 300km/h (digital one more accurate?), meaning at a indicated 300 your actually going 285 etc.
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Originally Posted by Mardeth
In principle yes, but Ive never seen a car that actually has a speedo that shows your going slower than your really are.
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[QUOTE=Mardeth]I would guess that the speedo is around 5% off at 300km/h (digital one more accurate?), meaning at a indicated 300 your actually going 285 etc.
Whether it is 285, 290, 295 or even 300km/h, how many cars in the world can even achieve that type of top speed. WTF is your problem?
Whether it is 285, 290, 295 or even 300km/h, how many cars in the world can even achieve that type of top speed. WTF is your problem?
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Originally Posted by Bilal
Why the doubts over the pic?
I don't think that too many people who are able to pay for an E55 would risk their lives to take a picture (ie., drive with 1 hand) at 180+.
Having taken a similar picture at 115 mph, I'd be surprised by someone being that ... daring.
If the picture is real, I believe it falls under the heading of "pilot error".
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The speedo is in km/h and not mph so if hte dude could find a long stretch on autobahn with few cars on the road I dont see it being a problem. At least you know he was not going that fast in your neighbourhood. One can drive 70mph in downtown San Frascisco and be more lethal than 200mph on autobahn with camera in one hand.
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Originally Posted by Mardeth
Theres no way that a stock (or slightly modified) W211 E55 will go a GPS verified 330km/h.
The photo, whether it's real or not is not a biggy, although I'm surprised and somwhat annoyed by, as others mentioned, the bitterness from a few.
So, I have to rub it in, yes, 320km/h is certainly conceivable in a supercharged AMG, but definitely inconceivable in any production BMW!
Just kidding, no hard feelings.
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Originally Posted by W210
So, I have to rub it in, yes, 320km/h is certainly conceivable in a supercharged AMG, but definitely inconceivable in any production BMW!
Just kidding, no hard feelings.
Just kidding, no hard feelings.
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Z8 has a really poor drag coefficient of something like 0.43 (http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/z8/4700618-1.html), while the 760iL is relatively underpowered at 438 SAE hp having to move almost 5,000 lbs.
Very unlikely in either case to approach 200mph.
Very unlikely in either case to approach 200mph.
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Im just trying to make some constructive critisism. Not everything you see is true...
Weight directly has no effect on topspeed. More weight usually means a bigger car -> more drag.
Drag coeffiency is by far the most important aspect of top speed. The drag coeffiency of 0.29 and 445hp is not enough for a top speed of 320km/h. Lets assume your driving 100km/h and the drag is then 2, at 200km/h it would be 8 and at 300km/h 18 and at 330km/h 22 etc.
What Ive heard is that horsepower gives you a topspeed and torque gets you there faster.
Weight directly has no effect on topspeed. More weight usually means a bigger car -> more drag.
Drag coeffiency is by far the most important aspect of top speed. The drag coeffiency of 0.29 and 445hp is not enough for a top speed of 320km/h. Lets assume your driving 100km/h and the drag is then 2, at 200km/h it would be 8 and at 300km/h 18 and at 330km/h 22 etc.
What Ive heard is that horsepower gives you a topspeed and torque gets you there faster.
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Originally Posted by Mardeth
Im just trying to make some constructive critisism. Not everything you see is true...
445hp is not enough for a top speed of 320km/h.
445hp is not enough for a top speed of 320km/h.
However, I do agree drag is extremely important in obtaining a high speed which is why the Z8 will do very poorly.
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