Is it a Eaton unit in the E55 engine?
#2
nope, it's a lyscholm supercharger.
Opcon owns lyscholm and autorotor who supply blower rotors to various manufacturers. For example, whipple uses the lyscholm rotors, Kenne bell uses autorotor rotors.
Opcon owns lyscholm and autorotor who supply blower rotors to various manufacturers. For example, whipple uses the lyscholm rotors, Kenne bell uses autorotor rotors.
#3
Isn't it made by IHI of Japan, developed in partnership with Mercedes?
http://www.europeancarweb.com/firstlook/0304ec_amgbenz/
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
I believe Lysholm is the TYPE of supercharger, or called Kompressor in Germany. As in twin-screw, http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/tun...cts/kompressor, or http://www.coloradocobras.com/whippl...rcharging.html
Also, http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0107scc_garage/
http://www.europeancarweb.com/firstlook/0304ec_amgbenz/
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
I believe Lysholm is the TYPE of supercharger, or called Kompressor in Germany. As in twin-screw, http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/tun...cts/kompressor, or http://www.coloradocobras.com/whippl...rcharging.html
Also, http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0107scc_garage/
#5
Originally Posted by RossN
Isn't it made by IHI of Japan, developed in partnership with Mercedes?
http://www.europeancarweb.com/firstlook/0304ec_amgbenz/
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
I believe Lysholm is the TYPE of supercharger, or called Kompressor in Germany. As in twin-screw, http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/tun...cts/kompressor, or http://www.coloradocobras.com/whippl...rcharging.html
Also, http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0107scc_garage/
http://www.europeancarweb.com/firstlook/0304ec_amgbenz/
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
I believe Lysholm is the TYPE of supercharger, or called Kompressor in Germany. As in twin-screw, http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/tun...cts/kompressor, or http://www.coloradocobras.com/whippl...rcharging.html
Also, http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0107scc_garage/
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the lysholm charger is a lot more efficient that normal superchargers. it has to do with the way the screws are formed. consequently, a lot more expensive. They have extremely superclose tolerences.
#7
A nice link to Lysholm Technologies: http://www.opcon.se/index.asp?sPage=1&langID=1&cID=14
As David notes, they are a member of the Opcon Group, headquartered in Sweden. The SRM (Svenska Rotor Maskiner AB) division of Opcon licenses/partners the twin-screw technology with Lysholm, along with Eaton and IHI.
Interesting reading.
As David notes, they are a member of the Opcon Group, headquartered in Sweden. The SRM (Svenska Rotor Maskiner AB) division of Opcon licenses/partners the twin-screw technology with Lysholm, along with Eaton and IHI.
Interesting reading.
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Originally Posted by Beowulf
A nice link to Lysholm Technologies: http://www.opcon.se/index.asp?sPage=1&langID=1&cID=14
As David notes, they are a member of the Opcon Group, headquartered in Sweden. The SRM (Svenska Rotor Maskiner AB) division of Opcon licenses/partners the twin-screw technology with Lysholm, along with Eaton and IHI.
Interesting reading.
As David notes, they are a member of the Opcon Group, headquartered in Sweden. The SRM (Svenska Rotor Maskiner AB) division of Opcon licenses/partners the twin-screw technology with Lysholm, along with Eaton and IHI.
Interesting reading.
#9
The twin screw design in and of itself does not drastically increase the price as evidenced by the high-efficiency low-cost Kenne-Bell twin screw superchargers available for domestic models. Unfortunately the ones for our cars carry the "Mercedes tax."
#10
Originally Posted by Dr Chill
The twin screw design in and of itself does not drastically increase the price as evidenced by the high-efficiency low-cost Kenne-Bell twin screw superchargers available for domestic models. Unfortunately the ones for our cars carry the "Mercedes tax."
You can also get a lyscholm supercharger for your domestic ride too. Whipple uses lyscholm rotors.
#11
doesnt kenne bell use two positive rotors (a head on shot would look like a peace sign on other pos displacement whereas ours looks like a double helix, 1 rotor is fat and the other rotor is its negative so the fat coils can fit into) whereas the lysholm type has one positive rotor and one negative rotor that fit perfectly together (of course they both do). i though i read somwhere there were more than 1 million points of measurements on our sc and only the lys type is the most efficient because it loses the least amount of air its trying to grab and force into the motor
#12
Originally Posted by Peter B
doesnt kenne bell use two positive rotors (a head on shot would look like a peace sign on other pos displacement whereas ours looks like a double helix, 1 rotor is fat and the other rotor is its negative so the fat coils can fit into) whereas the lysholm type has one positive rotor and one negative rotor that fit perfectly together (of course they both do). i though i read somwhere there were more than 1 million points of measurements on our sc and only the lys type is the most efficient because it loses the least amount of air its trying to grab and force into the motor
http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...RvsLYSHOLM.pdf
#14
Originally Posted by Dr Chill
The twin screw design in and of itself does not drastically increase the price as evidenced by the high-efficiency low-cost Kenne-Bell twin screw superchargers available for domestic models. Unfortunately the ones for our cars carry the "Mercedes tax."
Off Topic, but anyone car to elaborate on why the M113k motor cost so much to build?
#15
Originally Posted by dgussin1
take a look at this. It compares the Kenne bells autorotor rotors and blower to whipples lyscholm rotors and blower.
http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...RvsLYSHOLM.pdf
http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...RvsLYSHOLM.pdf
Now, all we need to do is get our hands on the new 6.3L's dimensions and spec's, and have Kenne Bell do a Kit for all Mercedes 6.3L owners! Nahhh, wouldn't be profitable enough!!!!!!!!!!
What do you guys think the new engines Compression Ratio will be?
#16
Originally Posted by RossN
Mercedes Tax???
Off Topic, but anyone car to elaborate on why the M113k motor cost so much to build?
Off Topic, but anyone car to elaborate on why the M113k motor cost so much to build?
When it comed down to it, building motors capable of 800hp from the factory to meet OEM reliability specs over 50-100k miles is simply not easy, or cheap.
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