hkoh

Guys~ I'm shopping for snow tires for both my E55 and Cayenne Turbo. I almost rammed into a car today(got a lot of snow today) in my Cayenne and found out first hand that the stock Pirelli P-zeros suck in the snow. Any suggestions for both?

HKoh

DRCrowder

I have used the blizzak lm-22's and the dunlop wintersport m2 and m3's All 3 work exceptionally well in the snow / ice

ColorChange

I have Dunlop Winter Sport M3. $784 delivered from the Tire Rack. Decent tires, great snow traction, OK dry.

04E55 AMG

Luke from TireRack highly recommended the Dunlop WinterSport M3 (new tire on the market this year). TireRack stock is very low do to popularity, would order soon.

Jakpro1

From Luke at Tirerack.com previous posts

He really knows his S)**



High Performance winter tires

These tires are designed to meet the needs of winter driving on Performance vehicles and are available in the low profile sizes used as Original Equipment on cars and light trucks. They trade a little ice and snow traction for enhanced handling and high speed capability. Due to their unique tread compounds and handling capabilities these tires must be used in sets of four.

snow and ice traction
Blizzak LM22
Blizzak LM25
Dunlop Winter Sport M3
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2
Pirelli Sotto Zero
Yokohama AVS Winter
Pirelli W210 Snow Sport
Pirelli W240 Snow Sport
Winter Contact TS790

dry/wet traction and steering response
Pirelli W240 Snow Sport
Pirelli W210 Snow Sport
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2
Blizzak LM25
Pirelli Sotto Zero
Dunlop Winter Sport M3
Yokohama AVS Winter
Blizzak LM22
Winter Contact TS790

Best blend of winter traction/dry grip and ride quality
Dunlop Winter Sport M3
Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2
Blizzak LM25
Pirelli W240 Snow Sport
Pirelli W210 Snow Sport
Blizzak LM22
Pirelli Sotto Zero
Yokohama AVS Winter
Winter Contact TS790

Studless Winter tires
These tires feature the latest in tread design and compound technology to provide winter traction for cars and light trucks without the inconvenience of using metal tire studs. They trade a little handling and high speed capability for excellent ice and snow traction. Due to their unique tread compounds and handling capabilities these tires must be used in sets of four.

snow and ice grip
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50
Dunlop Graspic DS-2
Michelin X-Ice
Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice

dry and wet traction
Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice
Michelin X-Ice
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50
Dunlop Graspic DS-2

blend of traction and ride quality
Michelin X-Ice
Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50
Dunlop Graspic DS-2



with all of that said there are a couple of additional notes

#1.) DO NOT USE THE BLIZZAK WS50 ON A MERCEDES BENZ VEHICLE WITH TRACTION CONTROL

#2.) same goes for the Dunlop Graspic DS2

#3.) we can team up any wheel to any tire to make a specific winter package to meet your needs

use this link to order on line or call me directly

that is all


*****SUMMER TIRES*****


Maximum Performance:
These are the absolute best performing tires on the market. Great steering response and wet/dry traction (not for use inthe snow!!!) which is at home on the track.

1.)Pilot Sport PS2
2.)Eagle F1 GS-D3
3.)S-03 Pole Position
4.)Ecsta MX
5.)Pilot Sport
6.)P-Zero Nero

There is 1 glaring omission in this list. It is the BFG G-Force T/A KD. The reason for this tire not being on the list is because of its lack of versatility. It is the best performing tire in the dry but, is almost scary in the wet.

Ultra High Performance:
A step down form the Max tires but, still exceptional performance which fits most application for a street tire that can be driven very aggressivley.

1.) Firehawk SZ50 EP
2.) Potenza RE750's
3.) G-Force KDW
4.) Sport 8000


Ultra High Performance All Season:
Performance tires which are capable of going through the snow.

1.) Sport 5000
2.) Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
3.) P-Zero Nero M&S
4.) AVS DB S2 (quietest tire I have ever driven)
5.) Continental Extreme Contact
6.) BFG G-Force KDWS
7.) HTR+

Budget Performance Tires:
Summer performance with a cost effective tire when your budget is a concern. (based on performance not cost)

1.) Yokohama AVS ES100
2.) Fuzion ZRi
3.) Sumitomo HTR Z II
4.) Kumho Ecsta Supra 712
5.) Sumitomo HTR Z
6.) Dunlop SP Sport FM901


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Carlh

I ran Dunlop M3 tires through last Winter here in Illinois, and thought they were remarkable.
Very good in the wet, and beyond expectations when combined with the ESP in snow.
I've just installed them again this year, although I use Moda rims so it is a quick change. (No point in using high $ rims in the salt that is used in the Greater Chicago area).

Wickdwagon

To run the M3s you had to run 245 on all four corners. I agree that if you deal with a lot of snow then the 245s are needed. Here in NJ I found the 245s M3s to be scary on drive pavement in the E55, I have now switched (for other reasons) to the Mich. Pilot Alpins in the standard size.

For the Cayenne your best bet is to pick up a set of 18" turbo wheels and do the Pirelli Scorpian Ice an Snow, they made it through last winter prior to PCNA repurchasing the Cayenne.

MikeE55

I have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on my E55 and IMO they are a pretty good compromise tire, decent dry and wet performance, and mileage ~20k miles. I don't drive the E55 in the snow. I've decide to go with the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 when the current set wears out.

I put a set of the 18" AT Italiia S5 with Dunlop Grandtrek WT M2 on my '04 Touareg V8 as recommended by Tire Rack. I haven't run these in the snow yet but they look like they will certainly do the job. I'd think the M3 would be just as good if not better.

hkoh

Thanks for the replies guys. I know this is a stupid question, but do snow tires really make a huge difference? I've never had snow tires.

HKoh

Wickdwagon

The E55 is going to need dedicated snows, unless you plan to leave it in the garage when it snows? Looks like we are going to see the black and gold in the big game this year!

hkoh

Yeah~ the Steelers are doing great~ ! The young quarterback is pulling it off well~ Thanks for the input guys~ I'm leaning towards the Dunlop Winter Sport M3.

HKoh

Torquester

Winter Sport M3's (245) on dedicated Moda rims here. Good stuff!