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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:22 AM
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I'm thinking about putting the ASA ST4 19" wheels on my 01 E55. Will they fit? the size is 19x8.5 F and 19x9.5 rear, I was going to run 245/35/19 and 275/30/19 tires. Will this work? Anyone have any pics? I don't know what the offsets are or if these wheels even come with different offsets, maybe someone else can speak up if they know.
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Here are the wheels on tirerack
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Displ...2FMachined+Lip
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:50 AM
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The offset, as listed on the Tirerack site, is ET37 front and ET31 rear. Not really a good fitment for the W211 E-class, but it works.

If you put your car into the site and check wheels for your car, these wheels don't come up... which means they don't fit properly for whatever reason.

p.s. if you go into the Wheel & Tire forum here, you can ask your questions of a Tirerack representative.

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:53 AM
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Can you tell me the stock wheel widths and offsets for the 01 e55. Also, how do you find the offsets on tirerack, I couldn't see that.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jrummi
Can you tell me the stock wheel widths and offsets for the 01 e55. Also, how do you find the offsets on tirerack, I couldn't see that.
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If you pull up your car, you can find the wheels that came on your car. Then you can click on those and it will give you the specs for them (I believe 18x8ET31 and 18x9ET35 but I am not sure, I am sure someone will correct me even though you can just go to the site and try it yourself).

Again, for other wheels, you can go to the Tirerack site and click on the wheel and see the sizes and specs.

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by scorchie
The offset, as listed on the Tirerack site, is ET37 front and ET31 rear. Not really a good fitment for the W211 E-class, but it works.

If you put your car into the site and check wheels for your car, these wheels don't come up... which means they don't fit properly for whatever reason.

p.s. if you go into the Wheel & Tire forum here, you can ask your questions of a Tirerack representative.

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he said 01 e55, this is w210, not w211
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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scorchie is correct: 18x8ET31 and 18x9ET35

Same as what I have on my '01 E55. Tire Rack does not list the ASA wheel for this car.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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he said 01 e55, this is w210, not w211
Yes, I read fine, thanks. You might want to reread my posts to understand what I am saying... it comes up on Tirerack under W211, and it's not really a good fitment, but it works. It DOES NOT COME UP on Tirerack under W210. If you can't get the wheel to come up, you can't get the specs.

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scorchie
Yes, I read fine, thanks. You might want to reread my posts to understand what I am saying... it comes up on Tirerack under W211, and it's not really a good fitment, but it works. It DOES NOT COME UP on Tirerack under W210. If you can't get the wheel to come up, you can't get the specs.

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Can you please elaborate on why this particular set is not a good fitment for the W211? I have the staggered ASA ST4 w/ PS2 on my 04 E55 and everything seems ok. Do I have to watch out for anything because of these wheels? Wheel alignment? Bearings? Tire wear? I choose the ASA over the OEM 2-piece, due to price and more importantly, weight. The ASAs are actually much lighter than the more expensive AMG 2 piece 19" wheels.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:27 AM
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Anyone know why the ASA St4's won't work on an 01 E55?
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Can you please elaborate on why this particular set is not a good fitment for the W211? I have the staggered ASA ST4 w/ PS2 on my 04 E55 and everything seems ok. Do I have to watch out for anything because of these wheels? Wheel alignment? Bearings? Tire wear? I choose the ASA over the OEM 2-piece, due to price and more importantly, weight. The ASAs are actually much lighter than the more expensive AMG 2 piece 19" wheels.
The reason they are lighter and cheaper than the AMG wheels is because they are not as strong (manufacturing methods aren't necessarily as important as the material used), and they don't meet as many standards requirements as the AMG wheels.

The reason they are not a good fitment for the W211 is because the W211 prefers higher offset in the rear, and lower offset in the front. The stock E55 rims are ET30 in front and ET39 in rear. Using such a low offset in the rear reduces the tire size that can be fitted without rubbing (I have a set of wheels with ET40 in rear that fit really well with fat tires, but the ET33 tend to rub on occasion). The 9" wide version does change the offset to ET32, and 2mm can make a big difference, but the 9" width isn't ideal.

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Anyone know why the ASA St4's won't work on an 01 E55?
This gets covered a couple times a month, at least. I suggest you search on terms like "wheel* 12mm 14mm" and you can get a whole bunch of information relating to the reasons.

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scorchie
The reason they are lighter and cheaper than the AMG wheels is because they are not as strong (manufacturing methods aren't necessarily as important as the material used), and they don't meet as many standards requirements as the AMG wheels.

The reason they are not a good fitment for the W211 is because the W211 prefers higher offset in the rear, and lower offset in the front. The stock E55 rims are ET30 in front and ET39 in rear. Using such a low offset in the rear reduces the tire size that can be fitted without rubbing (I have a set of wheels with ET40 in rear that fit really well with fat tires, but the ET33 tend to rub on occasion). The 9" wide version does change the offset to ET32, and 2mm can make a big difference, but the 9" width isn't ideal.

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I understand the AMG wheels is a higher quality wheel. For 5x the price, it should be. As far as wheels strength, my wife already curbed one of the rear wheels. I doubt the $1300 AMG wheels could've resisted that curb rash.

I have the 9.5 rears with 275/30/19 PS2s. It isn't that the ideal tire size for the E55? So far, I have not heard nor seen any of the tires rub.
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please post pictures of your e55 with the ASA wheels thanks!
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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I understand the AMG wheels is a higher quality wheel. For 5x the price, it should be. As far as wheels strength, my wife already curbed one of the rear wheels. I doubt the $1300 AMG wheels could've resisted that curb rash.

I have the 9.5 rears with 275/30/19 PS2s. It isn't that the ideal tire size for the E55? So far, I have not heard nor seen any of the tires rub.
Strength of wheels has little to do with resistance to abrasive impacts. It has to do with resistance to stresses in various planes, which mostly result in the ability of the wheel to resist becoming what most people will call "a bent rim". Cheaper rims such as ASA quickly become bent under the weight of a 2 metric ton car with over 450hp, just from the impacts one would expect in normal driving (such as potholes, driveways, etc.). Because your criteria and priorities caused you to purchase these wheels is not the issue, I am sure they fit your needs just fine. I am just stating that the wheels are not as strong as the AMGs, not debating any other merits.

"Ideal tire size" is subjective, some people think it is smaller than you have, others think it is larger, and I can't say what will be ideal to you. My only statement on this was that the offset on the ASAs, at ET30, is low and thus reduces the size of the tires that can be used; I didn't comment that the 275 tires would rub with this offset. Obviously, if you're not experiencing rubbing with your offset and 275/35R19 tires, then there's no problem. Maybe 275 is ideal to you only because it does not rub with the wheels you chose to use?

I know I did use the word "ideal", but that was in reference to the "normal" tire size used on the 9" rim, and it is hardly subjective that this combination is not idea.

I know this is a complex subject, but let's try not to read between the lines!

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Thanks for the explanation Scorchie. So far, the ASA serves my purpose well. My wife can curb each wheels at least 5 times before I break even with the 2-piece AMG. I was really a tough decision for me installing a non-original AMG wheel on my E55k. However, everytime I thought of countless wheels that wife damaged in the past, I figured this is the best solution for me. Maybe, I should stop her from driving my cars.
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My wife has curbed 3 of the mags on her SLK 320. Back when we had a Jeep GC she managed to curb 2 on one side, and in the process she ruined 1 Michelin that had to be replaced to the tune of $270. Needless to say, she does NOT drive my E 55.
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