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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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I am new to this forum and I'm not sure if this was discussed in the past. Does anyone know if the front floating brake rotors from the new SL65 will fit our cars??? also the 19inch wheels as well???

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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Not sure about the rotors fitting, but I'm betting the 19"s fit undoubtedly.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Gang,

I am new to this forum and I'm not sure if this was discussed in the past. Does anyone know if the front floating brake rotors from the new SL65 will fit our cars??? also the 19inch wheels as well???

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The size of the rotors is the same, but I was told the fitment is different. Mind as well get the Performance Package brakes for the SL55.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Gang,

I am new to this forum and I'm not sure if this was discussed in the past. Does anyone know if the front floating brake rotors from the new SL65 will fit our cars??? also the 19inch wheels as well???

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The rotors are larger, and the calipers have a different part number (probably to account for the larger rotors). You can probably fit them together onto the E55.

p.s. yes it was discussed in the past, you can use the search feature to find things that were already discussed.

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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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I'm sure a Brembo big brake upgrade is far superior and probably costs less.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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I'm sure a Brembo big brake upgrade is far superior and probably costs less.
Not really. Brembo makes good calipers, but pretty crappy rotors.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Not really. Brembo makes good calipers, but pretty crappy rotors.
Thanks for the warning because I was just about to order 4 Brembo rotors from you, Harris.

Guess I'll have to stick with stock MB parts. Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scorchie
The rotors are larger, and the calipers have a different part number (probably to account for the larger rotors). You can probably fit them together onto the E55.

p.s. yes it was discussed in the past, you can use the search feature to find things that were already discussed.

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Your answer makes the most sense since the rotors are larger on the SL65 than the ones on the E55. I would assume the calipers are a little different to accomodate the larger rotors.

Does anyone know for a fact if the SL65's 19inch rims fit our E55's??

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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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The calipers are actually the same.... A different bracket with longer arms is used however to mount the calipers. Thereby increasing the radial length to accomodate the larger discs.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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I thought the wheels from the SL & CL 65 do not fit on e-class cars due to different offsets?
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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The calipers are actually the same.... A different bracket with longer arms is used however to mount the calipers. Thereby increasing the radial length to accomodate the larger discs.
Hey thanks for that info. Do you know if the SL65 rotors will fit under our stick 18 inch wheels sinc the SL65 comes with 19's??

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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MBH
Hey thanks for that info. Do you know if the SL65 rotors will fit under our stick 18 inch wheels sinc the SL65 comes with 19's??

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I do not beleive the larger rotors will fit in the stock 18" wheels.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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The calipers are actually the same.... A different bracket with longer arms is used however to mount the calipers. Thereby increasing the radial length to accomodate the larger discs.
Yeah, I've heard that before... but you can't order the parts separately, so in effect, they are completely different.

Not to mention, if the calipers ARE the same, the the radii of the swept area is different for the two different rotors... talk about cheap design.

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Yeah, I've heard that before... but you can't order the parts separately, so in effect, they are completely different.

Not to mention, if the calipers ARE the same, the the radii of the swept area is different for the two different rotors... talk about cheap design.

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Talk about cheap... LOL.. MB speced left rotors for all the big brake kits !

Now, that is cheap !
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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Upgrade Breaks on E55 to SL65 ........

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I am new to this forum and I'm not sure if this was discussed in the past. Does anyone know if the front floating brake rotors from the new SL65 will fit our cars??? also the 19inch wheels as well???
Hello MBH

Sorry, was reading your post a little bit late, but here some news which might be interesting for you !!!

AMG Manufaktur Affalterbach, offered one of our members at AMG Owners Club the following for his E55AMG/S211:

Breaks, (discs 380/36mm) and 8 pot caliper
including mounting - PRICE 3.880,-- €
(remark from AMG ! - ONLY with 19" wheels possible)

Wheels; AMG Styling IV, including tyres
8,5x19 ET25 & 245/35/ZR19
10x19 ET28 & 275/30/ZR19
including mounting - PRICE 7.155,-- €

so complete price is about 11.000,-- € PLUS 16% VAT

As written above, this is an offer from AMG Affalterbach - and I have no idea, it you will get these parts in the States.....

kind regards

Walter
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Walter,

Thanks for that post at the current exchange rate 11,000 Euro's = approx. $14,700. I think I'll pass on that one till the dollar gets some of it's strength back if that ever happens.

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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I thought I would do more research on this.

The brake parts are about US $3300 (better buy them before any price increases!). Fitting is DIY, or depends on where you go. I don't recommend DIY if you don't understand the requirements of changing brakes/pads/etc. on an SBC car, or if you can't perform proper bleeding (remember that the diagnostic computer is required to do the brake bleeding).

The calipers are different from the E55; there is no separate bracket between the caliper and spindle. It is "permanently" assembled, meaning it is all painted over and the parts aren't available separately, so they are pretty much different calipers.

Some cars may require new backing plates. These are under $100 a pair. The rest of the included parts are calipers, rotors, pads, rotor retaining bolts, and new caliper fixing bolts.

Some 18" rims may fit, but the stock E55 rims will not. Most 19" rims will fit, with offset/spoke clearance being more important than the diameter.

Those rotors look pretty cool...

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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I thought I would do more research on this.

The brake parts are about US $3300 (better buy them before any price increases!). Fitting is DIY, or depends on where you go. I don't recommend DIY if you don't understand the requirements of changing brakes/pads/etc. on an SBC car, or if you can't perform proper bleeding (remember that the diagnostic computer is required to do the brake bleeding).

The calipers are different from the E55; there is no separate bracket between the caliper and spindle. It is "permanently" assembled, meaning it is all painted over and the parts aren't available separately, so they are pretty much different calipers.

Some cars may require new backing plates. These are under $100 a pair. The rest of the included parts are calipers, rotors, pads, rotor retaining bolts, and new caliper fixing bolts.

Some 18" rims may fit, but the stock E55 rims will not. Most 19" rims will fit, with offset/spoke clearance being more important than the diameter.

Those rotors look pretty cool...

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Scorchie,

Thanks for the reply. I will one day attempt to do this myself. The only thing I may need is the diagnostic computer. I have bled the brakes on my race car at least a thousand times (AP Racing 4 pots front, and AP Racing 2 pots rear ). My shop is well equipped to do all light service and some heavy duty work which I do myself on my race car and road cars.

Thanks agian for the reply,
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Originally Posted by scorchie
I thought I would do more research on this.

The brake parts are about US $3300 (better buy them before any price increases!). Fitting is DIY, or depends on where you go. I don't recommend DIY if you don't understand the requirements of changing brakes/pads/etc. on an SBC car, or if you can't perform proper bleeding (remember that the diagnostic computer is required to do the brake bleeding).

The calipers are different from the E55; there is no separate bracket between the caliper and spindle. It is "permanently" assembled, meaning it is all painted over and the parts aren't available separately, so they are pretty much different calipers.

Some cars may require new backing plates. These are under $100 a pair. The rest of the included parts are calipers, rotors, pads, rotor retaining bolts, and new caliper fixing bolts.

Some 18" rims may fit, but the stock E55 rims will not. Most 19" rims will fit, with offset/spoke clearance being more important than the diameter.

Those rotors look pretty cool...

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Sorry to bump this thread, but can I just confirm the rotors etc in question are from an R230 SL AMG, and ask if they are, could they fit the W210 E55? I know people are asking about the W211 here, but I would like to know for the older marque too Thanks in advance!
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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Why not just upgrade to lightweight rotors from Racing Brake?

http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7136.htm

For myself, I prefer the reduction in unsprung weight and rotational mass. I can assure you that the overall improvements are substantial.

If you are willing to get into the $14K range I would start looking for a possible fitment of carbon/ceramic units (if that is even possible). Think of it; you then would have brakes that cost more than the entire vehicle.
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Why not just upgrade to lightweight rotors from Racing Brake?

http://www.racingbrake.com/category-s/7136.htm

For myself, I prefer the reduction in unsprung weight and rotational mass. I can assure you that the overall improvements are substantial.

If you are willing to get into the $14K range I would start looking for a possible fitment of carbon/ceramic units (if that is even possible). Think of it; you then would have brakes that cost more than the entire vehicle.
Have you got personal experience with these rotors, and can truly say they are an improvement over stock? If so, it's a great option and I'll strongly consider them!
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Have you got personal experience with these rotors, and can truly say they are an improvement over stock? If so, it's a great option and I'll strongly consider them!
i used them on my slk32 and they were 5 lbs per side lighter with a brinnell hardness of 277. great price and with the proper pads an amazing setup
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i used them on my slk32 and they were 5 lbs per side lighter with a brinnell hardness of 277. great price and with the proper pads an amazing setup
The curb weight of the SLK is much less than the E55 as you know, do you feel they would handle stopping the heavier vehicle as assuringly?
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If you order a set from here they will be around (760USD = 2800AED),

RB brakes is (680USD = 2500AED), with better looking, less fade, less weight, more air vent benefit, longer life,,

https://www.racingbrake.com/ProductD...oductCode=2284

ZAYED,,

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Bro,

If you order a set from here they will be around (760USD = 2800AED),

RB brakes is (680USD = 2500AED), with better looking, less fade, less weight, more air vent benefit, longer life,,

https://www.racingbrake.com/ProductD...oductCode=2284

ZAYED,,
These are the ones I have been looking at Thank you Zayed!
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