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Old 08-26-2010 | 12:16 PM
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CTS-V vs E63 on Speed tonight...

For those of you that don't already know...
Speed Channel tonight at 10pm Battle of Supercars, CTS-V vs w212 E63...
Old 08-26-2010 | 01:12 PM
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Nice!! thanks for the heads up!

I am going to try to DVR it since wont be home
Old 08-26-2010 | 11:41 PM
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Two beautiful cars. The braking between the two cars seemed to be very different per the results of the 0-100-0 test.
Old 08-27-2010 | 12:50 AM
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What were the results?
Old 08-27-2010 | 07:38 AM
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What were the results?
The E63 got walked on hard.

0-100-0...CTS-V.
60-130...CTS-V by several bus lengths.
Top speed run (running start) limited to 4500ft...tie.
Wet road course (they usually do this test dry, but probably made it wet to give the E63 a chance)...CTS-V.
Old 08-27-2010 | 09:27 AM
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It was a very good showing for the CTS-V. I loved Tanner in "Supercars Exposed", but in this new series, he seems to always be the loser.
Old 08-27-2010 | 11:06 AM
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I dont understand why our car doesn't pull so hard from 60mph as other super sedans, we do have a 6.2 v8!!
Old 08-27-2010 | 11:49 AM
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I thnk Tanner is the better driver of the two.
But horsepower won the day.
Having driven both cars, the E63 has a slightly better steering feel, but the Caddy is simply brutal in power and handles capably...
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Wow, tough day for the E63.
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Originally Posted by shchow
I thnk Tanner is the better driver of the two.
But horsepower won the day.
Having driven both cars, the E63 has a slightly better steering feel, but the Caddy is simply brutal in power and handles capably...
Can you give us a condensed overview between your CTS and your M5 ?
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Can you give us a condensed overview between your CTS and your M5 ?
Sure...

The E60 M5 feels/handles like a lighter and smaller car. Feels more connected to the road despite what the Nurburgring times may suggest for the CTS-V, IMHO. The M5 definitely is a much more "livelier" car to drive, and I loved the SMG; lightening shifts. And if you've never heard a V10 screaming above 8000rpm, it truly is an unforgettable sound.

The CTS-V is truly a monster. Torque on demand anytime/anywhere. And the car can handle as well. But it feels like a heavier car. M3/C63 owners would never like this car because it feels like a much bigger car. I have the automatic tranny; had I done it over, I would have gotten the manual.

Power...CTS-V;
Handling...M5;
Suspension...CTS-V;
Transmission...M5;
Fit/finish...M5;
Appearance...CTS-V, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by shchow
And if you've never heard a V10 screaming above 8000rpm, it truly is an unforgettable sound.
I am 15 minutes away.........

Originally Posted by shchow
Sure...

The E60 M5 feels/handles like a lighter and smaller car. Feels more connected to the road despite what the Nurburgring times may suggest for the CTS-V, IMHO. The M5 definitely is a much more "livelier" car to drive, and I loved the SMG; lightening shifts. And if you've never heard a V10 screaming above 8000rpm, it truly is an unforgettable sound.

The CTS-V is truly a monster. Torque on demand anytime/anywhere. And the car can handle as well. But it feels like a heavier car. M3/C63 owners would never like this car because it feels like a much bigger car. I have the automatic tranny; had I done it over, I would have gotten the manual.

Power...CTS-V;
Handling...M5;
Suspension...CTS-V;
Transmission...M5;
Fit/finish...M5;
Appearance...CTS-V, IMHO.
With both vehicles available , what makes you grab one set of keys over another ?
Old 08-27-2010 | 01:32 PM
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With both vehicles available , what makes you grab one set of keys over another ?
I just updated my profile.
I turned in my M5 few months ago on lease
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Im gonna dump my 63.......
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Sounds good, donate the wheels this way :P
Old 08-28-2010 | 01:47 PM
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Sounds good, donate the wheels this way :P
Im not a giver
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Originally Posted by shchow
The E63 got walked on hard.

0-100-0...CTS-V.
60-130...CTS-V by several bus lengths.
Top speed run (running start) limited to 4500ft...tie.
Wet road course (they usually do this test dry, but probably made it wet to give the E63 a chance)...CTS-V.
I dont understand why the top speed run to 160+ was even? Unlike the 60-130 was a big difference. Both topend power.
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Im not a giver
So you like to "receive?"
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I dont understand why the top speed run to 160+ was even? Unlike the 60-130 was a big difference. Both topend power.
They both did not start from a standstill, but rather a rolling start.
I believe the CTS-V turned the corner at the start around 65-75mph.
The E63 started from around 100mph (you can hear Tanner admitting that he did so).
And the runs were limited to 4500ft.
With that in mind, I feel that the CTS-V won that event as well, having to make up 25mph differential in the same distance...
Old 08-29-2010 | 02:24 PM
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anyone notice the Caddy rides on Michelins and the show was sposored by Michelin. This was the first episode I've watched and I don't doubt the Caddy is faster, but I was just wondering how biased the show is due to the sponsor.
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I expected a better showing for the E63. But, nevertheless, 2 weeks ago I drove to the pocono raceway with a bunch of guys and we had 1 CTS-V (2009 I believe). We had friendly runs several times on the way to the track and back and I did not feel like he was pulling on me all that much at all. I expected to loose bad, especially when the guy told me he was putting 510 to the wheels at the dyno (which I could not believe).

So I was quite surprised to see such a bad showing for the E, especially after my encounter with a CTS-V. I am sure CTS-V is faster, but it just looked like E got completely destroyed.

I was faced with a decision to get V or E and decided to get the E after test driving both cars. E just felt like a more enjoyable ride to me, and I really considered V as an option when coming out of my other lease. So whatever, E63 is fast enough for me and I enjoy it every day -- A LOT.

Albert.
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I expected a better showing for the E63. But, nevertheless, 2 weeks ago I drove to the pocono raceway with a bunch of guys and we had 1 CTS-V (2009 I believe). We had friendly runs several times on the way to the track and back and I did not feel like he was pulling on me all that much at all. I expected to loose bad, especially when the guy told me he was putting 510 to the wheels at the dyno (which I could not believe).

So I was quite surprised to see such a bad showing for the E, especially after my encounter with a CTS-V. I am sure CTS-V is faster, but it just looked like E got completely destroyed.

I was faced with a decision to get V or E and decided to get the E after test driving both cars. E just felt like a more enjoyable ride to me, and I really considered V as an option when coming out of my other lease. So whatever, E63 is fast enough for me and I enjoy it every day -- A LOT.

Albert.
Ya i agree. Don't want to come off sounding like a sore loser but all these machines are faster than 95% of the cars on the road. For me that's plenty fast as I'm not a tracker (although i woulda been beatin my chest if the E63 came out on top! ). I love the feel of my car, the power and the rumble and classy understated interior. It fits me like a glove. Congrats to GM/Caddy. You did a great job with the car and nobody can beat your pricing. Well done...benefit for the rest of us is great cars for us to choose from and you'll keep all the mfg's honest with this effort!
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Originally Posted by E-Ridium 63
Ya i agree. Don't want to come off sounding like a sore loser but all these machines are faster than 95% of the cars on the road. For me that's plenty fast as I'm not a tracker (although i woulda been beatin my chest if the E63 came out on top! ). I love the feel of my car, the power and the rumble and classy understated interior. It fits me like a glove. Congrats to GM/Caddy. You did a great job with the car and nobody can beat your pricing. Well done...benefit for the rest of us is great cars for us to choose from and you'll keep all the mfg's honest with this effort!
Concur, I have no problem spending more for a car that didnt win. If you go to the Speed Channel site did anyone notice that that Tanner owns the CTS and PT owns the E63? It was written that way at least.
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Originally Posted by AlbertM
I expected a better showing for the E63. But, nevertheless, 2 weeks ago I drove to the pocono raceway with a bunch of guys and we had 1 CTS-V (2009 I believe). We had friendly runs several times on the way to the track and back and I did not feel like he was pulling on me all that much at all. I expected to loose bad, especially when the guy told me he was putting 510 to the wheels at the dyno (which I could not believe).

So I was quite surprised to see such a bad showing for the E, especially after my encounter with a CTS-V. I am sure CTS-V is faster, but it just looked like E got completely destroyed.

I was faced with a decision to get V or E and decided to get the E after test driving both cars. E just felt like a more enjoyable ride to me, and I really considered V as an option when coming out of my other lease. So whatever, E63 is fast enough for me and I enjoy it every day -- A LOT.

Albert.

Also the fully loaded-pano roof,19s on the e63 was under 4100lbs And the ctsv was almost 4300. How could they **** that up? But they are about the same lbs. Another thing your e63 is about 300lbs over my c63. But you have almost 70hp more. Surprisingly we run even way up top.
BTW I think the e63 in the show was in comfort mode.
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Originally Posted by shchow
They both did not start from a standstill, but rather a rolling start.
I believe the CTS-V turned the corner at the start around 65-75mph.
The E63 started from around 100mph (you can hear Tanner admitting that he did so).
And the runs were limited to 4500ft.
With that in mind, I feel that the CTS-V won that event as well, having to make up 25mph differential in the same distance...
Dude both cars lbs about the same(4300lbs). But the ctsv has almost 40hp more. Which itsnt alot for that mass. Still doesnt explain why the ctsv ran and destroyed the e63 in the 60-130 run.


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