tranny question
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tranny question
so, i couldnt resist and had to try S+ mode, even in my break in period
so im wondering, if i downshift with the paddles in S+, and i stay in S+ will the car up shift as needed by it self, or do i have to do it
my thought was in M mode, is when oneself is completely in control and the car is not.
i downshifted today, in S+ but as i gained speed it didnt upshift so i got skerred and did it myself
what is the correct thought on this
also, the AMG button, does it only store tranny and suspension settings but not the ESP setting?
so im wondering, if i downshift with the paddles in S+, and i stay in S+ will the car up shift as needed by it self, or do i have to do it
my thought was in M mode, is when oneself is completely in control and the car is not.
i downshifted today, in S+ but as i gained speed it didnt upshift so i got skerred and did it myself
what is the correct thought on this
also, the AMG button, does it only store tranny and suspension settings but not the ESP setting?
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According to the OM it should upshift in S+, but only to prevent over reving. That means at redline. Therefore its hard to test.
I wish the AMG button would store ESP settings. According to OM it dosen't.
I wish the AMG button would store ESP settings. According to OM it dosen't.
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so if i down shift in S+ it essentually becomes like M
it wont go ahead an resume its functions as S+ and change gears as it is supposed to do?
so how do i get it out back to working like an automatic while in S+, do i have to turn the *** to C and back to S+
or should i never paddle shift in S+
and in terms of esp, what exactly is the "handling " difference in sport . what does it do, because its not the same as the shock button
it wont go ahead an resume its functions as S+ and change gears as it is supposed to do?
so how do i get it out back to working like an automatic while in S+, do i have to turn the *** to C and back to S+
or should i never paddle shift in S+
and in terms of esp, what exactly is the "handling " difference in sport . what does it do, because its not the same as the shock button
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No, its not like M its "Gear Limit".
It will hold the lower gear but still upshift at redline to avoid over-rev.
On dash, note the box around the gear bieng held in.
To cancel just hold the upshift paddle untill it returns to your selected mode.
Note on dash display, the box around the selected transmode.
I wish we could shift from the console as its hard to manipulate paddles when turning or catching/inducing a slide.
It will hold the lower gear but still upshift at redline to avoid over-rev.
On dash, note the box around the gear bieng held in.
To cancel just hold the upshift paddle untill it returns to your selected mode.
Note on dash display, the box around the selected transmode.
I wish we could shift from the console as its hard to manipulate paddles when turning or catching/inducing a slide.
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so if i down shift in S+ it essentually becomes like M
it wont go ahead an resume its functions as S+ and change gears as it is supposed to do?
so how do i get it out back to working like an automatic while in S+, do i have to turn the *** to C and back to S+
or should i never paddle shift in S+
and in terms of esp, what exactly is the "handling " difference in sport . what does it do, because its not the same as the shock button
it wont go ahead an resume its functions as S+ and change gears as it is supposed to do?
so how do i get it out back to working like an automatic while in S+, do i have to turn the *** to C and back to S+
or should i never paddle shift in S+
and in terms of esp, what exactly is the "handling " difference in sport . what does it do, because its not the same as the shock button
Once you shift to the next gear and go back to normal modulation of the throttle it should get you back to normal shifting. You can also upshift wit the right paddle and cycle right through 7th gear and it will reset.
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You got all your quesitons answered above. It will be nice if the AMG button will also store ESP setting.
There is always the debate whether the paddle shifter should be on the wheel rather than the column. I believe Ferrari has it on the wheel.
There is always the debate whether the paddle shifter should be on the wheel rather than the column. I believe Ferrari has it on the wheel.
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Ya but its on the column and not the wheel so it is stationary the whole time.
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At least on the column as with E63's you will know where it is all the time. On the wheel it's nice if you are not turning too much; beyond that it becomes confusing.
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I also do think it's a good idea for either system to have an additional + & - shifter function on the console.
Well, the thinking with Ferrari or Lambo is that you can always turn with one hand and leave the other hand to paddle shift. Having the paddles on the column eliminates the confusion since they are always stationary on the column.
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wheel is where they should be, Aston puts them on the column
i had 2 weeks with an virage and then a rapide, and it was wierd with them on the column, esp when turning, luckily they are very large
i had 2 weeks with an virage and then a rapide, and it was wierd with them on the column, esp when turning, luckily they are very large
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I agree. I still find myself reaching to tap the center console gear lever for an upshift out of a turn like it is the DCT shifter on my old e90 M3 (shifter on steering wheel and center console).
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Notice those paddles on the column mounted ones are usually much longer, ie on Ferrari's.
Personally, I prefer the column-mounted since I will always know the exact location.
Personally, I prefer the column-mounted since I will always know the exact location.
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No, its not like M its "Gear Limit".
It will hold the lower gear but still upshift at redline to avoid over-rev.
On dash, note the box around the gear bieng held in.
To cancel just hold the upshift paddle untill it returns to your selected mode.
Note on dash display, the box around the selected transmode.
I wish we could shift from the console as its hard to manipulate paddles when turning or catching/inducing a slide.
It will hold the lower gear but still upshift at redline to avoid over-rev.
On dash, note the box around the gear bieng held in.
To cancel just hold the upshift paddle untill it returns to your selected mode.
Note on dash display, the box around the selected transmode.
I wish we could shift from the console as its hard to manipulate paddles when turning or catching/inducing a slide.
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Ferrari is wrong and soon it will be corrected in the near future. A simple reason for on the wheel is you shouldn't be shifting while wheel is turned. It's racing 101.
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What about the old days with the manual transmission shifter where you always shift with one hand while steering with the other.
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I really like how BMW addresses that but I just never been much of a paddle shifter user. Been so long that I have been in a C63 that I am starting to wonder if it works that way. I know the shifter in the 2010+ E63 always looked like an afterthought to me.