E63 Wagon vs CTS-V Wagon
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Likes: 54
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: New York
2014 CLS63 s-amg, 2012 Porsche Cayenne, ML350
Yes i agree i should not really compare porsche to caddy i just used it as a point that there is a big difference in my opinion. The porsche quality should and is better but if i compare my old c63s interior quality i feel it too is way better than the cts-v.
The problem i have with my cts-v recaros are that they wiggle while driving and feel loose. I guess its a known problem for the cts-v and if i would fight with gm i could prob have it fixed under warranty. The actual seat is not that bad altho it gets a bit uncomfy on long drives. In my opinion recaros are good for a short spirited driving session but not comfy on longer drives. I have recaros on my evo 9 and cts-v and both feel pretty much the same to me.
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 348
Likes: 2
From: Houston, Tx
2015 C63S
The exhaust note on the E63 has been the one big let down for me. Does not help that I fell in love with the exhaust note of the C63 prior to ever looking at an E63. For awhile there I thought perhaps the 2009 E63 cars maybe were more C63 like in the exhaust note. I however spent the day riding in one just this past weekend and the thing to me was even more quiet than the 2010-2011 cars. I suppose with some modifications it can get there with the note. Of course with some modifications I'd hope a CTS-V exhaust note could get far better than it's almost UPS truck like sound too.
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,263
Likes: 901
From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
The exhaust note on the E63 has been the one big let down for me. Does not help that I fell in love with the exhaust note of the C63 prior to ever looking at an E63. For awhile there I thought perhaps the 2009 E63 cars maybe were more C63 like in the exhaust note. I however spent the day riding in one just this past weekend and the thing to me was even more quiet than the 2010-2011 cars. I suppose with some modifications it can get there with the note. Of course with some modifications I'd hope a CTS-V exhaust note could get far better than it's almost UPS truck like sound too.
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 348
Likes: 2
From: Houston, Tx
2015 C63S
I have yet to be inside the TT cars to judge their sound. I saw one at a light and from outside it seemed pretty quiet though at least louder than the 2009 E63 I was around last weekend.
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,263
Likes: 901
From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
I was blasting the wagon from a dig today getting on a toll road and it was firing away!!! Resonator removal is a must.
Last edited by Vic55; Feb 13, 2012 at 11:53 AM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Likes: 54
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
From some official AMG videos I had seen on the TT, AMG incorporated some types of controlled flaps within the exhaust system to enhance the exhaust note; maybe inside the resonator or post cats or other places. The goal they mentioned was to ehance the TT's sound. I wonder why they would go to that extend if all they had to do was the removal of certain parts. I'm not sure what type of sound aimed by AMG to appeal to buyers of such vehicles. It seems like the 6.2 N/A sound was fine for them but not that of the TT with modified exhuast.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Administrator
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,263
Likes: 901
From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
From some official AMG videos I had seen on the TT, AMG incorporated some types of controlled flaps within the exhaust system to enhance the exhaust note; maybe inside the resonator or post cats or other places. The goal they mentioned was to ehance the TT's sound. I wonder why they would go to that extend if all they had to do was the removal of certain parts. I'm not sure what type of sound aimed by AMG to appeal to buyers of such vehicles. It seems like the 6.2 N/A sound was fine for them but not that of the TT with modified exhuast.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Likes: 54
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
I guess AMG is also trying to comply with local regulation on loudness of exhaust system per their description on exhaust development for the SLS. So the same probably goes for all their cars. Likely that's the reason for the toned down exhaust note.
It's just too bad there are too many whiners out there in the general public who cannot appreciate the sound most of us on forums like this would like to have.
It's just too bad there are too many whiners out there in the general public who cannot appreciate the sound most of us on forums like this would like to have.
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 348
Likes: 2
From: Houston, Tx
2015 C63S
I think it is more to do with the demographics for the buyers of the cars than any sound laws when looking at things like the E63 and CLS63. If it were about sound laws then why is the C63 so much louder than the other two? My guess is it is not laws but the fact the C63 tends to appeal to a younger crowd that tends to want more in your face attributes to a car.
