Hey guys, I was messing around with traction control the other day and have a question. Just to see how it would deal with the power, I left TC fully on and gave it around 3/4 throttle from a stop( dry conditions). I had more wheel spin then I expected in ON. It almost felt like wheel hop. If you could post your experience with how much wheel spin you get in TC fully on I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!
Josh

 

I get wheel hop a lot.......guess cause it's too dry?

 

With 550hp and 590tq- it doesnt matter if you have ESP on, in sport, or OFF- you can still create wheel hop by simply exploding off the throttle. Also there is no "traction control" button. And the MBZ traction control is always working even if ESP is deactivated:


From the manual

 

so how is esp defined differently than traction control,
i thought they were synonymous

 

apparently not since turning off ESP does not turn off traction control.

Im too lazy right now to go searching. I need beer.

 

Here's Edmunds experience. 2 days ago they posted their #'s for a 2012 CLS63 w/ PP-

Test Results:
Acceleration:
0-30 (sec): 2.0 (2.3 w/ TC on)
0-45 (sec): 2.9 (3.6 w/ TC on)
0-60 (sec): 4.0 (4.6 w/ TC on)
0-60 with 1-ft Rollout (sec): 3.7 (4.2 w/ TC on)
0-75 (sec): 5.5 (6.1 w/ TC on)
1/4-Mile (sec @ mph): 11.9 @ 121.3 (12.3 @ 121.1 w/ TC on)

Tester's comments:
Acceleration: The trick to getting the most from this car (with traction control disabled) is to find exactly the allowable rate of throttle application that the car can manage at launch (1,500 rpm) and thereafter. This car's 0-60 time is severely restricted by the amount of grip the tires can provide (i.e., I can't go to WOT until midway through 2nd gear). Best run was with zero spin. I sampled the "Race Start" program, but it used 4K rpm to start, allowed too much wheelspin and then short-shifted to 2nd (resulting in a slower 4.6-second 0-60 and a 12.4-second quarter-mile at 120.5 mph). Upshifts are blazingly fast and smooth. Wow.

I'm surprised that TC slows it down this much.

Gene

 

I too am having trouble understanding what purpose traction control serves when esp is fully off. Nothing seems to be controlling the wheel spin or drift angle as we have all experienced with esp off.

 

Not to thread jack, but what are your thoughts on getting the optimal/ quickest launch in these cars?

 

Just turn off traction control and get a feel for the point at which the wheels spin, I think that's the best way to do it.

 

appears Derek at the coulture is on some Psychology, beware dude,

 

ESP is there to get the car back in control towards the direction you intend to go. Traction control is to, well, make sure the car maintains traction. Of course, there is a lot of overlap between the system. But I'm glad to hear the traction control is constantly on despite the ESP being fully off.

 

Ok I have a 2010 s63 where is ESP button

 

its in the s 63 forum


with our cars, if u drive in esp off, and touch the brake does it re engage esp?

 

I don't have an ESP button anywhere. Someone please advise

 

1bad63, definitely try that other forum and see what they say. We are unable to advise since we don't have that car.

 

Honestly I believe it thru the on screen menu. I think our s550 has it in there


Leave it on, you don't want to wrap around a telephone pole