jmg1848

you paid $2650 for 7yr/75k on a 2014 e63? savvy!

NedNederlander

I'm new here but been lurking for months during my search for a 2012 E63 that meets most of my requirements and i'm looking to buy it this week when it comes out of "the refresh shop". I apologize if i've posted incorrectly or in wrong forum, i'm new at this so please bear with me.

I'm currently a 911 (997) driver and needing more room but enjoy having a little "fire in the belly" of the beast so i think the E63 fits the bill.

Found a 2012 E63 that i'm very interested in but it's 3 states over from me and I have some reservations about spending ~$66k sight unseen. Only, 24k miles, ~22mo left on factory warranty, there is a clean CarFax, I got the DataCard from a link i found here, i called MB to confirm specs but because there were 3 onwers MB says that disqualifies it from an extended warranty.

The price seems very reasonable for an E63 with P30 and somewhat low miles.... would you all agree or have any words of advice for me about buying out of state? Is it worth a $600 RT ticket to go view it?

Thank so much!

otakki

Having 3 owners and that disqualifies it an extended warranty?!...That's new to me since I have not heard that before. Is that a CPO car? If yes, then an extended warranty would be available. BTW, did you find out how it got so many owners? With 22 months left, that means the car was placed in service around July of 2012.

I would be hesistant in this type of cars without an extended warranty if you plan to keep it beyond the factory warranty period. I wouldn't hesitate in buying out of state because that's what I did.

Maybe post something on the C63 forum side (much more traffic there) to see if somebody close to that area can go check out the car for you. IMO, it's not worthwhile to spend the time and that money just to go view it. Work out everything on the phone and have them send you photos and only go when you are ready to go pick it up.

NedNederlander

Thanks for your info....I too was a little shocked that MB "North America Corporate" said it would not qualify given such low miles. I might call back and see if someone else says the same thing. Carfax says it was a Corporate car for 4mo then a personal car for 7mo following; registered in the same city. I want to think that someone who has their own business bought it to write it off then converted it to a personal car but "on paper" that counts as 2 owners. Carfax is clean and the person from MB said they could not give me the service history but said she's looking at it and commented "it will be a reliable car for you"... not sure how to take that and yes, i've seen the threads on service records & privacy... i don't buy it but when we bought my wife's clk550 last year i ran into the same thing which is they wouldn't give me the service history until we bought the car... odd.

I was going to have the car shipped versus driving 3 days back to CA... open to thoughts on that too.

PeterUbers

$600 is a little insurance policy on your $66k + TTL. That's how I look at that.

I bought a "used" 2014 E63S with 85 miles on it from delaware, sight unseen, shipped for $850 to Illinois. However, with 22k on the ODO, and a 2012, I'd wanna see and drive it.

Pretend like the $600 is already gone -- go see the car if it's what you want in terms of options and color and miles

Call Dan Boone at Austin Tx benz and see if he'll write a warranty for this used benz -- have the VIN handy

2012 merc amg

I dealt with a gal named Erin and I think it was Santa Rosa CA Mercedes so since that's in your state I'd run the vin number by her and see if she can help you out, although I guess you'd have to pay sales tax whereas if you bought from TX you would not on the extended warrantee. The three owner deal does not sound right to me either as a reason to deny. When I saw the price of 66K you listed I thought wow, I bought one a year and a half ago for 83K but then realized mine is a wagon which are a little bit more than the Sedans, so now I don't feel so bad. But ya, if you can't get the extended warrantee I would not even bother with the car if I were you as that 22 months will roll around pretty quick and this is the type of car you really do want a warrantee on.

NedNederlander

Thanks to you both, i've left voicemails for Erin and Dan hoping to hear back this week. I purchased the car which has 22mo remaining on MB warranty and will add the best extended i can find for peace of mind - i intend to keep the car a long time. I really appreciate your replies since i'm still a newb here and coming from Porsche-land (although my wife has a clk550).

For some reason I don't think the BMW dealer knew this E63 has the P30 perf package given the price... they didn't advertise it with P30 but when i pulled the datacard it was clear it had P30.... i wonder if that's possible. Looking forward to delivery hopefully next week. Thank you again for the leads on extended warranty... cheers!

NedNederlander

Update: I just spoke with Dan Boone, a super nice guy who spent a good amount of time with details. Pricing was not so good and Dan was shocked saying these were just updated last week and he hadn't looked yet: 7/100k $7100, 7/75k $6600 and 6/75k $5500. This for a 2012 E63 with 24k miles. This is much higher than i've seen on MBWorld, hope to find some lower quotes.

sdg1871

I remember reading a few weeks ago in the leasing/buying forum here that MB was about to jack up the warranty prices. It looks like the chickens have come home to roost.

LJMartin

These are the same prices my stealer gave me last year. To the OP, I too bought mine from Erin of Santa Rosa MB in CA. and I live in Iowa. I don't think you can get a better deal from anyone else. I called 10 dealerships and she was the lowest by far.

PeterUbers

Holy sh--!!! $7100 for a warranty???

LJMartin

The prices for parts on these cars is ridiculous. A headlight for this car is $2500. So if you replace 2 headlights because of the hazing issue that's 5 grand right there. These cars weren't cheap when new and the replacement parts show that fact. I really don't think the risk is worth the cost if you need repairs. A lot of the after market warranty companies won't even offer coverage for these cars. So go without a warranty at your own risk.

PeterUbers

I totally agree with u, don't get me wrong, but I paid $2650 for a 7/75k Elw on my used '14 e63S

Dan Boone was able to enter it as a new elw in the star database as my car only had 85 miles on it yet was already titled once. He said there was some loophole

NedNederlander

Ya, i'm still new to this but Dan was saying to fix an AirRide issue is about $2500 per corner so i can see where parts are a big part in determining cost. That loophole was a sweet one for sure, i'd be stoked with the deal you got and i bet if you waited it would be more, good call! Erin is on vacation this week so i'm going to check in with her next week, fingers crossed... but i'm also starting to think that i should just bite the bullet because these things aren't getting any cheaper and if I have one issue it will probably pay for half the cost of the warranty if not all.

LJMartin

I paid $2900 for the 7/75 plan for my 2010 and she didn't have to pull any strings. It had 13k on it when I bought it in June.

PeterUbers

I can't believe how expensive the warranties have become... Amg used value will plummet even more because of this concept

LJMartin

If it's any consolation M5's cost about the same. The bigger problem is to find a company that will warranty them at all. My dealership at first told me I was not eligible for the factory warranty as I was not the original buyer. I think that was because they wanted to steer me to their other warranty companies as they probably made more money on them. It was only after they found out that the companies wouldn't cover it that they told me they pulled some of those strings everyone is talking about and talked MB into offering me coverage.

ace10

There are no "strings" to be pulled here:

The Mercedes ELW program is relatively clear in its requirements and its coverage.

Read:

http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalA...d_warranty.pdf


"To be eligible, your Mercedes-Benz must be under the original new vehicle warranty period (4 years or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first)"


There is a very extensive thread discussing the ELW here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-warranty.html

PeterUbers

Is a new elw different in cost from a used elw?

Sounds like what we are all getting is dealer speak and shadiness regarding what they're saying about the warranty offerings

ace10

If you read the thread I linked, you will see that an ELW is an ELW as long the car is still in the original warranty period. Pricing is based on dealer markup. There is a discount for purchasing within the first thirty days of delivery IIRC. So technically the owner of a new, new car may purchase the ELW for lower cost than a second owner or an owner who simply fails to act in the first month.

Terms for CPO are far less clear to me.

cnolke

I bought my 7/100 ELW for my '12 Wagon about a year ago for $3400 (local dealer matched Erin's price). Have they really doubled in price in the last year? Thats pretty strange, unless the actuaries discovered something significant.

2012 merc amg

Naw, they have not gone up all that much, just that "Super Nice Guy Dan Boone" dealer is not so super nice, over 6 grand for a 7/75K warrantee, no way. Dealers really vary on the markups they take. They hope people are uneducated and will just pay it, especially after telling them how much these cars are to repair. I think I payed around 3400 for my 7/75K and I think since then it's up to around $4100.00.

LJMartin

According to Erin you get a 10% discount if you buy the warranty with in the first 30 days.


On a CPO the biggest gotcha is if a car is purchased from a franchised MB and the car is not CPO'd by that dealer the car is not eligible for a MB warranty. If that same car was purchased somewhere other than a franchised MB it would be eligible for the MB extended warranty.


I wouldn't trust a dealership for anything. If you have a question that really matters to you, you should contact MB customer service directly. JMO

autoPOM

The short answer is yes! But why you might ask? After all, the Mercedes Benz brand has long been associated with luxury, class and quality. And owners of Mercedes Benz used cars are often Mercedes Benz enthusiasts who really love their cars.

However, these Mercedes Benz owners probably do not love the high cost of repairing their cars, as there is no doubt that luxury cars (including Mercedes Benz used cars) generally cost more to repair than non-luxury cars. The main reason behind this is because:

the parts tend to cost more
the labor costs more due to more complex computer systems and/or parts.
In addition, special training can be needed to work on Mercedes cars, which makes the hourly labor rate higher than for other cars.

Read on here!

http://blog.extended-vehicle-warrant...ty:zoom::zoom:

*Some exclusions may apply based on make/model/mileage

LJMartin

Just to make things clear. In 9/13 my local MB dealer quoted me a price of $4,023.85 for the 7/75, the 7/100 for $5748.85 and the 7/125 for $7071.35


On 1/14 I purchased a 7/75 MB warranty from Erin of MB of Santa Rosa for $2947.50


I had bought the car in 6/13 and it had 13k on it and was 2010. It had 20k on it when I purchased the warranty from Erin.


I offered my local dealer the opportunity to match Erin's price and they tried to convince me that it wasn't a true MB warranty and the only way to make sure I got a true MB warranty was to buy it through them. It was and is a true MB warranty. You can't trust any dealer.