nineonenine

Hey MB guys - thanks for reading my post.

I currently have an E90 M3 which is the second E9x M3 I've owned. I'm looking at changing things up a bit and actually having a car that has torque and the E63 caught my eye. I don't mind the C63 but I think I want a bigger car right now.

Can I get your opinions on a 2010 E63 that has just over 50k miles (out of warranty from my understanding) that is priced right around $51,000. My current M3 only has 27k miles and it's an 09 so it would be a step up in the mileage category but I think I'm fine with it.

Any reservations or concerns? I'm reading about the suspension issue with the car losing air overnight, etc. That would probably be a PITA to handle without warranty.

I may try to negotiate the 3 year/36k mile warranty from MB into the current car as it is priced around 3k or so over what it should be. (Love car dealers!) The deductible on the extended would be $250 which is fine with me.

Here is the vehicle. Thanks for reading.

http://bit.ly/13X0qu5

Shellbmb

Do some searching on head-bolt issues with the M156 motor. Not sure exactly what motors were affected, but there may be some 2010 motors that have some issues. There are plenty of threads on this forum regarding that. It would be nice to have a warranty just in case that pops up.

JJCTHE1

Too funny, I JUST sold my E92 last week and got into a 2014 E63P. SICK car, love it. I too wanted something a bit bigger with more lower end grunt, the E63 is a perfect fit. There is really nothing I miss about the M3 at all. I loved the car, in fact I have a 1998 as well, and have owned 6 others but the E63 is just awesome for a DD.

I personally wouldnt buy one without a warranty. Air suspension on ANY benz is a PITA and expensive to fix. I wouldnt really consider one unless it was a Certified car, but that is just me. I also think the Ash interior is probably the least desirable interior for resale. Also think about when you are done with it, what will it be worth? 51k seems a little high, figure you put another 50k on it, you have a 100k mile car. Not nearly as desirable or valueable as say a 75k mile car that was a CPO. Just my $.02 since you asked.

2012 merc amg

If it were me I'd spend the extra money and get a TT 5.5 2012 and up, I'd think you'd be able to get one with low mileage for 70 to 80 K in really great shape, like new.

glayfan40

Another member is looking to sell his 2012 with low miles plus a set of Blizzaks for $73,500:

https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...er-option.html

MBZ_Benzo

Look for a CPO one and get the extended warranty. I bought a '10 E63 with 42k, with the CPO and 2 yr extended warranty and I ended up with a warranty for another 5 yrs to 135k miles.

lunarx

I might be able to be talked out of mine.
13K miles on new engine (shipped fully assembled from AMG July 2012, under warranty).
46K miles on chassis.
MB ELW Warranty to Nov 2016 or 135K miles.

I was planning to keep it another year, until I could downsize to a light coupe with DCT, like a W205 C63 or M4.
Otherwise, I'd hold it until the next gen of E63.

otakki

That's the way it should be done for a major engine repair: an engine shipped fully assembled from AMG.

By the way, what's your plan on warranty to cover the gap between 2016 and the next gen of E63? It's risky to not have one. I have my factory ELW until mid 2017 but even that is definitely not long enough for me to jump from the W212 E63 directly into the next gen E63.

lunarx

Mercedes has taken care of me very well on warranty issues.
It makes me reluctant to buy other cars, such as Porsche, who do not offer 7/135 ELW to original owners, although they do offer 6/100 CPO to 2nd owners.

I was hoping the next gen E63 would be a 2017 model, released in fall of 2016.
If that's not the case and I'm not in a W205 C63 Coupe before then.....

I would chance it and hold my E63 and go w/o warranty for the gap.
My engine has all the latest updates and should be solid (thanks to NA).
As for other items, it's not that expensive to repair, if you buy parts from the online discounters and have a good independent mechanic to perform the labor.
Dealer labor is not too terrible either, the trick would be getting them to let you supply your own parts.

The car seems well built and I think it will hold up just fine thru the gap.
While out of warranty, I would need to allow time to research repair options, vs just taking it straight to the dealer.

The W205 C63 would have to suck for me to be in that position.
If that 4.0 BiTurbo is 2x a CLA45 engine, I expect it will be spectacular.
The next C has to look better than the CLA though.

LJMartin

I just bought a 2010 E63 AMG in June for $56K. It had 13K on it when I bought it. It has most if not all the options on it. The warranty runs out in March of next year. I think either a MB or third party extended warranty is in my future. Can anyone give me an idea of what they paid and the mileage on the car when it was purchased either MB or third party. I have a print out of installed option from an MB dealer. can any one tell me where I would look to see what performance package I have installed or what the codes would be?

lunarx

By your warranty expiration date, it's probably not a CPO car.
I don't think you would be eligible for a MB ELW.
I paid the dealer rip off price of $4800 for my 7Y/135K ELW.
It can be found cheaper, if you negotiate harder than I did.
I fell for the 2Y, for price of 1Y line.
I still think it's worth it, especially considering how much warranty service I already got, under the New Vehicle Warranty.

If you send me your VIN, I can send you a Data Card for your car, which shows everything on your car.

You can also ask the original selling dealer for the Build Sheet, which will itemize the options per the window sticker.

YellowJacket

Never own a AMG model out of warranty. Be cautious on the 3rd party warranties too, as they often don't cover repairing to AMG standard, but rather the bare minimum. Such as that new motor shipped from AMG above.....3rd party would never do that. Stick with MBUSA warranty only.

Pertplus

+4000

LJMartin

The car is not a CPO. I take it from your post that a second owner can't get a MB extended warranty. I also take it that ELW is the term MB uses to describe it's extended warranty. I will PM you my vin number. I know that there are reliable third party warranty providers but they are expensive too. You get what you pay for. Thanks for the reply and help.

2012 merc amg

I don't see anything written from everything I've read that says a second owner cannot purchase a extended warranty, the only provision is that the car is still under the original factory warranty which is not the case of the O/P so I don't think this car would be eligible for the extended warranty, that's probably why the previous owner dumped the car. Here is a price list with miles of coverage http://www.searsimports.com/extended-limited-warranty/, note that since the original warranty is good up to 50K miles the 7/75 would be just an extra 25K miles of coverage over 3 years. That might be good enough for me as I plan only driving around 10K miles per year so I'd get nearly the 3 years coverage out of it for an additional $3500.00, not that bad of a deal because it seems like there is generally some things that could go wrong between 50K miles and 75K miles, although you never know. But at least that would allow me to own my car for an extra 2.5 years after the original warrantee expires in 28 months for me, that is around another 5 years from now, not bad. Either that or I just dump my car in 2 years with 3 months of the factory warrantee and get one of the newer awd amg's and be real fast.

But to the O/P, I'd get a car that is still under warrantee if you are smart and like I said in a previous post you are much better with something 2012 and up with the 5.5 TT engine, it will cost more, but it is such a great motor plus you will have a newer car. If you can't swing it, maybe save until you can, there will be many more 2012's and 2013's coming on the market in the next year or two as more and more people want the AWD 2014's.

LJMartin

I went to my MB dealer for warranty replacement of my home link system. While I was there I decided to get a price on the MB extended warranty. The lady I talked to told me that only the original owner was eligible for the MB extended warranty and that I would have to purchase a third party warranty, she sold Vehicle One, or Allstate. When My car was done, she said the computers were really slow and she hadn't got the prices on the warranty but she would e-mail me the quotes. When I got the e-mail she said that neither company would offer coverage for the E63 AMG (shades of the BMW M5). She said that she contacted MB and that they agreed to offer me the following extended warranty from MB. Coverage is an extension of my present coverage, no deductible, 7 years from inception or 2017, coverage to 75K total mileage for 4025.23 or the 7/100000 option is 5748.85. the 7/125000 options is 7071.35. Anyone think they may be giving me a line (and I don't mean coke) Comments wanted. To the OP, she also said that the original warranty must still be in effect to get a MB warranty.

2012 merc amg

It sounds like she was blowing smoke about not being able to get a MB warrantee as a second owner, I can find nothing about it has to be the original owner. She just wanted to sell you the aftermarket warranty as they make more money on those, reason is because they have a lot less payouts as they always figure out a way to get out of coverage with a lot of those, I know all about those kinds of warrantees. The Factory warranty is good, if you are definitely hanging onto the car for that amount of time, I'd offer them a grand less and go for it, if they wont do it call around to other dealers chances are you'll come up with a better price if you do enough searching. Good luck. My plan is to get rid of my car in around 2 years around 4 months before the factory warrantee expires, I'd really like to try and find one of those awd amg wagons at that point, I like driving a newer car every 2 or 3 years, I get bored. Next time around I'd like a White one with a beige interior, that would be a sweet combo.

otakki

Wow, that's some crazy numbers that she has thrown at you for the factory warranty. The way to go is to get factory warranty on CPO cars up to 7yr/135K for around $3K IMO.

alextaylor29

In the market for an E63 at the moment myself (sold my E55) and will only buy an AMG from CarMax so I can take advantage of their awesome aftermarket warranties. Had one on my E55, took it to the dealer everytime (even with mods) and they always covered everything to the tune of $20K in parts and labor over 3 years and the warranty only cost me $2K.


The offer up to 125K miles for around $3K with a $50 (or close) deductible, so do check them out. Their warranties are backed by huge 3rd party companies and when you take it to the dealer, you never have a problem.


My $.02.

otakki

Good info about CarMax. What's the mileage coverage for the CarMax $2K warranty? How long do both warranties last?

ArmyDoc

Picked up my carmax warranty for an E63 with 57k for $3700 that lasts 5 years or up to 125k. thought it was a pretty sweet deal, the deductible was 350 though...what I could afforf at the time. for the 0 deductible I think it was closer to 5000.

RoninAMG

I recently purchased a 2010 E63 and my primary goal was to make certain that it was still within the MB 4yr/50K B2B warranty. And I'm so glad that I did. My local MB dealer has been fantastic to work with regarding warranty work such as interior creaks and rattles and replacing peeling trim pieces which I know most non AMG owners wouldn't care about. I'm certain the previous owner was a Miami trophy wife that parked outside and didn't baby this car like it deserves to be. I feel like I've adopted an abused puppy or something along those lines. She definitely needed some TLC. But once I get the front and rear bumper along with the hood painted along with the latest generation 3M clear bra she's gonna be looking better than new. My dealer also upgraded all the software (motor and trans) along with COMAND update which now streams wireless bluetooth and I couldn't be happier. The best advice is never purchase an AMG out of the 4yr/50K B2B warranty as CPO warranties won't cover cosmetics and cabin noise type issues. And my MB finance contact mentioned that if it were out of the original B2B warranty that he wouldn't have been able to offer me the MB extended warranty. So the previous thread that said a person said MB extended warranty could only be offered to original owner is incorrect. The vehicle just needs to be within the original B2B period. So my 2010 E63 is a beast mechanically, cosmetically and according to my assigned MB technician he states that it's probably one of the quietest E63's in the country as he was the one that replaced and improved nearly all the cabin trim with lots of felt tape. All software is latest and greatest, and in a month will have like new bumpers and will be protected with the latest Gen 3M clear bra. This journey has been 4 months in the making, but now will be enjoyed for at least the tail end of the extended MB warranty which is 3 years from now. I'm not comfortable having a car like this out of warranty so before she's out it will be time to slip into another one. As far as extended warranties go. I originally pulled the trigger on a 3rd party one which was 5 years beyond the B2B term date and or up to 125K. After the experiences with both MB on a larger scale and my local dealer I cancelled the aftermarket warranty and took a $250 loss and changed it to an MB one. I lost 2 years and 25K miles and paid a couple hundred more. But I feel much better knowing that the same company that has taken care of my recent warranty needs is now at the helm for the next 3 years for anything else that may happen. If anyone needs an MB extended warranty referral feel free to PM me. He's working on building a reputation here and is offering really good prices for the time being. This is my 2nd AMG (CLK55) and I hope I'm fortunate enough financially to be able to continue to remain behind the wheel of these amazing machines.

LJMartin

One word of caution to future buyers is that a non CPO E63 purchased from an authorized MB dealer is not eligible for the MB extended warranty. I finally purchased the 7/75k plan for $2800 for my 2010 for reference to future buyers. If you need more info let me know.

PeterUbers

Paid $2650 for 7/75k on a new e63 s-model

Bought from Austin tx Benz, same place I've bought all of my else's from

Totally agree... Never own amg OR any modern Benz out of warranty ...

RoninAMG

Mine was $3,699 Out the Door with $0 deductible and no transfer fees for a 7/100K on a 2010 E63 with 48K miles on it. This price was supposed to have tax added to it but when he quoted he forgot to mention the tax and honored this price. I literally had less than a week left remaining on my MB 4yr/50K warranty when I purchased this one. Purchased from Jason Mayes @ MB of Elmbrook, WI. Feel free to PM me for direct contact details.

FYI: IT MUST STILL BE UNDER FACTORY WARRANTY TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE AN MB EXTENDED ONE.