335X-ray

Hey guys,

Couple of quick shots of my new winter wheels and tires (Ok, one wheel and tire and some boxes). The car doesn't arrive till November so they are going to wait patiently in the garage till then. Frank at Wheels Boutique was great to work with and shipping was fast and professional.

Wheels:
TSW Panorama in Matte Black 19"x8.5" front ET 32mm, 19"x9.5" rear ET 41mm.
Tires:
Michelin Alpin PA4 255/35 19 all around.

Now I need to get some matte black MB center caps. Center cap size for reference is 75mm.

Enjoy
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My little man with the wheels:


Wheels came very well packed:


Wheel side shot:


Wheel full frontal:

TheOtherEric

Looks great!

I got my TSW Nurburgring set this week. Couple notes for you: make sure they sent the 4 adapter rings as well as a new set of lug bolts. The TSW are conical seat whereas our stock wheels are ball seat. And my wheels came with the wheel centers too, but the TSW logos were separate. So you should be able to remove the logos and replace with something better (68 mm)?

I got my wheels and tires through Discount Tire. In Chicago, we have an amazing contact at DT that gives great prices and incredible service. He actually brought them to my home, for free!

335X-ray

Good to know. I will check for the centering rings and lig bolts in the other boxes.

My center caps are 75mm from edge to edge. Just ordered some oem black MB caps.

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TheOtherEric

Do you have a part number and supplier for the black MB caps? I need to do that too.

kart125

Is there a reason to go with wider wheels in the back considering you went 255 all arround? I was maybe considering going 8.5 front and back if I go the route of winter wheels. 19x8,5 35mm offset seems OK all arround based on Wheel calculator in another thread.

335X-ray

Here is the eBay link I got them from. Best price I could find. Even some of the online MB parts dealers were charging $36 each for the cap. This was $72 total shipped for OEM.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...d=231060036622

kart125

Wheel 1Wheel 2Wheel size19x9.5 ET 5219x8.5 ET 35BackSpace185 mm (7.3'')155 mm (6.1'')
30 mm (1.2'') shorter.Rim Lip4 mm (0.2'') widerTypical Weight~ 35 lbs / 16 kg~ 31 lbs / 14 kgTires:Tire 1Tire 2Tire size285/30-19255/35-19Section width285 mm (11.2'')255 mm (10'')Sidewall86 mm (3.4'')89 mm (3.5'')Tire diameter655 mm (25.8'')661 mm (26'')
6 mm (0.9%) taller.Rim sizes19x9 to 19x10.519x7.5 to 19x9.5Circumference2057 mm (81'')2076 mm (81.7'')Revs per mile782.5775.4SpeedometerAssuming that this is OEM tire and speedometer readings are correct >>>When speedometer reads 60mph (96.6km/h) actual speed will be 60.5mph (97.4km/h): 0.8% faster.Typical Weight~ 25 lbs / 11 kg~ 24 lbs / 11 kgWheel+Tire Weight~ 60 lbs / 27 kg~ 55 lbs / 25 kgClearance:Package 1Package 2SuspensionAssuming that this is OEM wheel/tire and there is no any problems with clearance on both sides >>>100% clear (leaves even more room than OEM) FendersPackage will stick out 2 mm (0.1'') farther. Acceptable for most cars. WheelwellsWill fill out the wheelwell by extra 3 mm. Almost no difference

Sorry for crappy copy-paste... important is CLEARANCE.

TheOtherEric

If you forever plan to run 255 all around, then there's little reason to run wider wheels in back. But if you ever might (a) run staggered winter tires, or (b) use these as your summer wheels, then you should get the wider rear wheels.

ace10

Here's a source for some unusual factory center caps. It's a site that caters to the G wagen, but nearly all of those caps are the MB standard size.

http://fourbyfourclub.com/W463Wheels/W463WHEELS.htm

djrabbi

They are winter wheels so really not point of running staggered. I run 255 all around also on my winter wheels...Just feels better

rhukster

Does anyone actually run a 8.5" wheel in the rear with snow tires? Every place i've called said they would not clear the suspension components.

djrabbi

I run Audi wheels actually 9" all around. 8.5 should fit if its a lower offset around 30

335X-ray

This is the reason WHY I went with staggered winter wheels with 9.5" in the rear. That and if you put 8.5" rears on they would tuck like crazy and you would need to run spacers...don't really want to do that. A little of it is vanity so the rears fill out the wheel wells better.

Center cap part# MERCEDES BENZ PART # 6-6-47-0200

Here is the new eBay listing for the caps: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Mercedes-Benz-Wheel-Center-Cap-Black-set-of-4-/231067367564?vxp=mtr

kart125

Based on the Wheel calculator with 8.5 35mm offset in the back the wheels will actually stick out 2mm more so absolutely no concern with suspension.

335X-ray

Fronts:


Rears:


Rear sidewall shot:


Front side wall shot:


Lugs and centering rings:


Stack O Wheels:

rhukster

All the 19x8.5" i'm seeing on TireRack (where i usually buy my tires) are showing 45mm offset. So based on your numbers they will be 8mm narrower in the rear that stock. Ok, that's not a huge amount, I can live with that.

kart125

I checked on Power Wheels Pro and the have 8.5 x 35 offsets in a couple of models. The logical choice would be to mount on stock wheels but... I like to have the hability to swap tires myself if needed.

335X-ray

My Black OEM center caps came today. They look pretty good. The TSW center caps are actually nicer and better quality...they are a bit glossy instead of totally matte but they look way better than the TSW caps. Here is a quick pic.





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rhukster

I think those look nice! Your lucky that TSW takes the 75mm OEM style caps, my Bremmer Kraft wheels take 68mm BMW sized caps. I'm finding it all but impossible to find center caps that will fit.

335X-ray

Oh boy. That is going to be a challenge. I wonder if you could get some vinyl circles made or something...

Good luck
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335X-ray

http://bit.ly/1grGswP

Here you go. Classy vinyl.

😜

rhukster

LOL! Very classy. I ordered some of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Colour-Wheel-Center-Cap-Stickers-Benz-AMG-55mm-4pcs-/141079403623?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20d8fcdc67&vxp=mtr
They are 55m and probably look like crap but heh, they are $6.50 so worth a try. Really have limited options so it sucks. Who knows the quality, i'm not expecting much, I haven't even looked at the stock Bremmer Kraft caps yet, they might be fine as is. I'll check when i get back from europe.

rhukster

My wheels arrived last week while I was traveling and just got time to check them out.

Just a reminder they are Black with machined-lip 19x8.5" Bremmer Kraft B09s 45mm offset with 255x35x19 Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4s all round.

Overall I think they are looking pretty spanking and I think they will be a complimentary option compared to the optional black 10 spokes that I'm getting on my palladium silver E63S.

335X-ray

Nice! Now get those vinyl stickers on!

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otakki

Subscribed. Good thread with valuable info for those planning winter tires.