BMW M5 vs E63 AMGs
10-24-2013, 08:04 PM
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I think to tune under warranty is a major decision and nothing to be taken lightly. I plan on hanging onto my 2012 long term and have even debated on going with an extra 2 year warrantee but if I pay extra to buy that warrantee it makes absolutely no sense to do a tune. Then on the other hand I would like the car to be faster, 12 seconds in the quarter is not bad, but 11.5 sounds a lot more fun to me. What worries me too that with the tune I will be stressing the car a lot more and it won't hold up as good long term, so I may just accept the car as it is and enjoy it and have less worry's, life is too short, it would be one thing if I were Donald Trump or something but I'm not and only 55 years old and retired and I don't want to be a broke old man, lol and look back and think I wished I had done things differently rather than buy a new merc every couple of years or spent money on repairs a warranty may have covered.
like just a different league...
10-24-2013, 09:36 PM
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10-24-2013, 09:52 PM
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Vic is one lucky guy 
sl63 biturbo is one of the best cars in the world Idc what anyone says.
That engine and the fact u can drop the top at a red light !!! Forrrrrgettt about it lol
Did I mention how sexy the car is ! Congrats again man.
sl63 biturbo is one of the best cars in the world Idc what anyone says. That engine and the fact u can drop the top at a red light !!! Forrrrrgettt about it lol
Did I mention how sexy the car is ! Congrats again man.
10-25-2013, 01:13 AM
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my bro just snagged a 997.1 gt3rs for a pretty good number...it may have some potential in the future....im thinking of finding a nice 930 and doing my own version of magnuswalker/singer mod ( at a cheaper dime)
10-25-2013, 01:16 AM
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10-25-2013, 08:01 AM
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I am trying to decide between a 2014 BMW M5 with the competition package or an E63 AMGs. It has been a while since I had driven the 2014 E63 a dealer had on the lot. I drove an M5 the other day and it seemed that the shifts in manual mode were "crisper" then the E63. Am I remembering right? Can anyone comment on the shifting of the 2014 E63 in manual mode? Thank you in advance.
10-25-2013, 10:16 AM
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Thanks guys for all the compliments!!!!!! Its a fantastic pick up.
Hey Wolf, no module- my tech in HB, CA is able to just adjust the setting of the factory link. By increasing the length of the link the car comes down. The SL and other ABC cars have the height adjustment now via the MFD so I can raise it there and drop it back via the toggle buttons. Because I dont play around with ride heights all too much the module was not necessary.
10-25-2013, 11:30 AM
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I have ADD when it comes to cars... I love the M157TT engine; it has a fantastic sound to it and is so tuneable. The MCT is a bit behind but I can endure it with the amazing sound that the car makes. But I really took the car because I wanted a hard top that kicked major a$$. This is my first vert and Im very impressed with the craftmanship and performance of this car. The looks of the car arent half bad either 
FYI I loved the M5, but not for that long
FYI I loved the M5, but not for that long
10-25-2013, 12:31 PM
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true to a point....obviously it depends on what car you are buying...
my bro just snagged a 997.1 gt3rs for a pretty good number...it may have some potential in the future....im thinking of finding a nice 930 and doing my own version of magnuswalker/singer mod ( at a cheaper dime)
my bro just snagged a 997.1 gt3rs for a pretty good number...it may have some potential in the future....im thinking of finding a nice 930 and doing my own version of magnuswalker/singer mod ( at a cheaper dime)
10-25-2013, 02:01 PM
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I think to tune under warranty is a major decision and nothing to be taken lightly. I plan on hanging onto my 2012 long term and have even debated on going with an extra 2 year warrantee but if I pay extra to buy that warrantee it makes absolutely no sense to do a tune. Then on the other hand I would like the car to be faster, 12 seconds in the quarter is not bad, but 11.5 sounds a lot more fun to me. What worries me too that with the tune I will be stressing the car a lot more and it won't hold up as good long term, so I may just accept the car as it is and enjoy it and have less worry's, life is too short, it would be one thing if I were Donald Trump or something but I'm not and only 55 years old and retired and I don't want to be a broke old man, lol and look back and think I wished I had done things differently rather than buy a new merc every couple of years or spent money on repairs a warranty may have covered.
Cars are almost never assets. They are liabilities so everyone needs to drive these types of cars hard and use them for what they are designed for.
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Hey Wolf, no module- my tech in HB, CA is able to just adjust the setting of the factory link. By increasing the length of the link the car comes down. The SL and other ABC cars have the height adjustment now via the MFD so I can raise it there and drop it back via the toggle buttons. Because I dont play around with ride heights all too much the module was not necessary.
I have the non AMG model, but with the same forged wheels and interior.
I used links before but liked the thought of a module returning to stock height while driving thus avoiding any alignment issues.
Driven both R231 models; these engines are just incredible. Even the stock SL550 beat our SL55 and SL600 in acceleration. Am thinking of doing the Kleemann tune (535hp, 652lb-ft)
10-25-2013, 04:35 PM
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Love how your ride height looks.
I have the non AMG model, but with the same forged wheels and interior.
I used links before but liked the thought of a module returning to stock height while driving thus avoiding any alignment issues.
Driven both R231 models; these engines are just incredible. Even the stock SL550 beat our SL55 and SL600 in acceleration. Am thinking of doing the Kleemann tune (535hp, 652lb-ft)
I have the non AMG model, but with the same forged wheels and interior.
I used links before but liked the thought of a module returning to stock height while driving thus avoiding any alignment issues.
Driven both R231 models; these engines are just incredible. Even the stock SL550 beat our SL55 and SL600 in acceleration. Am thinking of doing the Kleemann tune (535hp, 652lb-ft)
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10-25-2013, 05:28 PM
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The car felt strong prior to the tune and crazy after. I dont remember my E63 wagon or the CLS stock being as strong as this car stock. I went with OE, they are local and he has tuned all my cars for about 10 years now. I dont need the supreme max hp/tq tune just the good bump that the car should have up front.
nice pick up with the SL63.
10-25-2013, 06:38 PM
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Thansk Wolfman... one thing on the SL63 (not sure if you have it on the 550) is the ABC screen on the Comand that shows where the height is along with G force measurments. Before I was lowered- my car would still run very low at higher speeds as you know this. The meter would clearly show it was almost in the lowest height mode. And then when Im parked or rolling slow the height came back up to slightly under mid point. If used the MFD to adjust the car up, the meter would then show it well above the mid point of the measurment display. So now im just lower all the time but since no suspension geometry was adjusted I was told no alignement unlike pulling out springs and have the struts and arms dangling.
Btw, the SL550 actually comes with springs stock and ABC as an option. Had one on springs for 3 months before drowning it in a storm. Now have the ABC like yours. I had lowered the first one with H&R springs, but the ride quality suffered quite a bit. ABC is just so much better in any way.
10-25-2013, 07:44 PM
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Using the links, the car won't know it's lowered and lowers yet more while driving (lowest above 80mph), so a camber adjustment may still be needed to keep your tires in one piece.
Btw, the SL550 actually comes with springs stock and ABC as an option. Had one on springs for 3 months before drowning it in a storm. Now have the ABC like yours. I had lowered the first one with H&R springs, but the ride quality suffered quite a bit. ABC is just so much better in any way.
Btw, the SL550 actually comes with springs stock and ABC as an option. Had one on springs for 3 months before drowning it in a storm. Now have the ABC like yours. I had lowered the first one with H&R springs, but the ride quality suffered quite a bit. ABC is just so much better in any way.
10-25-2013, 10:19 PM
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cheap gas station pic...... my first vert and its awesome. AMG finally got it right with this car reducing weight and putting in the M157 engine. I got the PP car with 557hp and 664tq stock along with the special order AMG performance suspension which makes the ABC about as neutral as it gets even into hight speed turns. The car is so stable without the airmatic fluff I had in the CLS and multiple E's. The luxury inside is the best of any AMG's Ive ever had (8 total). The seats are incredible with 10 levels of lateral seat support, 10 levels of thigh support, dynamic lateral movement, and tons of other adjustments. I only ever would get a hard top vert and I think this is the best of the lot out there in hard top variations. It takes all of maybe 18 seconds to lower or raise the top and the wind levels at 150mph are basically nothing (at such speeds). I missed the M157 engine grunt and this car is so plug and play.
Of course Ill mod it (already dropped the ABC in the pic), tune, and wheels coming next week. So far so great!!!!!!!!!
Of course Ill mod it (already dropped the ABC in the pic), tune, and wheels coming next week. So far so great!!!!!!!!!
10-26-2013, 03:43 AM
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10-26-2013, 11:34 AM
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Ok buddy who cares about one car, this was a real life discussion LOL- enjoy the ACV on your 2012 when, or if, you try to get any such value out of it.
Jim, you are the man.... I will monitor this. What time of product do you use on the roof seals?
She looks fantastic. Black/white interior look great too. Since this is your first SL and convertible here's a tip. The SL's roof seals need periodically lubricated or they'll start to squeak as dust gets in there. If you're driving around with the top up and start to hear it squeak on bumps or in turns that's what it needs. You can do it yourself or the dealer will do it for free. Sometimes the roof needs tightened too as it can jimmy loose after many miles. Dealer will do that too.
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10-27-2013, 01:50 PM
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As someone who owns an E60M5 and is moving to the AMG-S I can tell you that the F10 M5 was an utter disappointment. The E E60 always felt like a two door sports car, and extremely agile compared with the F10 M5. I drove the competition package and have to say it is an improvement but the car is still too heavy. The heart of the E60 frame no matter what trim level, was centered around performance and the the F10 is built more along the lines of versatility and that has sacrificed it's soul imhop. Most E60 M5 owners will tell you
how incredible their big high revving V10s sound, and to sit in the F10 with Faux engine noise piped in is a SIN.
The AMG-S feels a lot like my E60 and sounds wonderful.
how incredible their big high revving V10s sound, and to sit in the F10 with Faux engine noise piped in is a SIN.
The AMG-S feels a lot like my E60 and sounds wonderful.
10-28-2013, 02:00 AM
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I agree on that, driven the F10, liked it but it was disappointing that they had to put a "fake" exhaust noise through the speakers, and the looks of the 5 series dont do much for me, love the AMG's. I would however love an M6 coupe, very good looking car!
