E63 S or RS7
03-08-2014, 05:45 PM
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Yeah, that front is really an acquired taste. The rear detached and poorly integrated exhaust tips is another downside. Also I dislike the loss of the Ponton line. Overall, it's sad to see the angular, raw appearance of the original design gone.
03-10-2014, 05:50 AM
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Porsche 911 Turbo S 2014! E63S 14, Audi S8 13, CLS63 12, E550 12, C63 09, all tuned
Spirit of the thread. E63S is the better drivers car. I have an S8 APR tuned.
Fabulous drive train. I have never driven a RS 7 but I have to assume steering
feel is similar. The big difference is the all wheel drive systems of E63S vs RS7.
Audi Quatro system moves TQ around to all 4 wheels at a 30/70 to 70/30 ratios.
E63S has fixed 33/67 F/R.
I just tracked my E63S Renntech tuned with down pipes with 200 cell cats, Saturday. The performance was nothing but ASTONISHING, on Hoosiers 265/295 19s R6 s.
Fabulous drive train. I have never driven a RS 7 but I have to assume steering
feel is similar. The big difference is the all wheel drive systems of E63S vs RS7.
Audi Quatro system moves TQ around to all 4 wheels at a 30/70 to 70/30 ratios.
E63S has fixed 33/67 F/R.
I just tracked my E63S Renntech tuned with down pipes with 200 cell cats, Saturday. The performance was nothing but ASTONISHING, on Hoosiers 265/295 19s R6 s.
03-10-2014, 02:53 PM
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The M6 is strong at speed with the DCT but my short test drive with the 63S clearly tells me whats better from a dig (as expected)....a tuned E63S would be faster than a stock M6 from a roll. The M6 to me, looks great but Im all about change and getting something different and the M157 is so attractive due to tuning and sound... I guess Id probably say the reverse if the E63S was the car Ive had for a while.
Both are great car for different reasons.
Both are great car for different reasons.
03-13-2014, 11:05 AM
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exactly..... mag reviews are all over the map however the e63 and panamera in general always have very POSITIVE reviews in these.
read the motor trend review they have the panamera #1
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...an_comparison/
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03-13-2014, 12:28 PM
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2020 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2018 E63S Edition 1, 2018 Porsche GTS Cab, 2012 C63 BS
I use OE because he is local to me and has been tuning my cars since 2003:
CL65
E55
M3
M6 (E63)
E63 (sedan)
997.1 Turbo
997.2 Turbo
E63 W212 Wagon Bi Turbo
CLS63 Bi Turbo
C63 Black Series
SL63 Bi Turbo
But I don't look for max tunes as I usually run very driveable and reliable intermediate tunes so I don't have issues with spark plugs or other things. These tunes have been very good to me with no issues and strong gains but not outlandish ones. EG: my SL on a dyno dynamics tune only is right about 570 whp and 660 wtq. I have seen many other tuners get more (on different dynos and different conditions) but that's ok with me.
08-24-2014, 05:45 PM
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The RS7 is really fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Audi RS7 560 bhp
0-100 km/h: 3.8s
0-160 km/h: 7.8s
0-200 km/h: 12.3s
0-400m: 11.8s
Porsche Panamera Turbo S Powerkit 540 bhp
0-100 km/h: 3.8s
0-160 km/h: 7.9s
0-200 km/h: 12.5s
0-400m: 11.9s
08-24-2014, 07:17 PM
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2015 S550, 2014 E63 S-AMG Wagon, 2014 Audi RS7,2013 SL550, & 2011 CL550
Great thread. Both great cars. Prefer the E63 especially in the stealth wagon aspect. The RS7 is fast, but in some ways a wild animal and really need to work harder to tame. Just my opinion......I do have both in my stable of cars......
08-24-2014, 07:31 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
Based on the posted video... The rs7 pulls nicely on that panamera... Would suggest it's quicker than those posted numbers ... Love the rs7 and it's 20" rims
08-24-2014, 07:40 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
I kick the tail out on the 63s routinely ... Sport or all traction off setting in s or s+ and hang on...
08-24-2014, 11:51 PM
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2019 E63S wagon; 2016 Landrover Landmark
Perhaps this will help. A review comparing the two (plus a Jag):
http://www.europeancarweb.com/featur...enz_e63_amg_s/
http://www.europeancarweb.com/featur...enz_e63_amg_s/
08-25-2014, 07:40 AM
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The RS7 is amazing....challenge is when you option it out, due to Audis unfavorable lease terms you're talking about a 40% premium over the E63, just not worth it.
08-25-2014, 11:30 AM
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2010 S4 (sold), 2014 E63 S Wagon
curious about how you see the handling/steering feel between the two, I went from an S4 to the '14 E63 wagon and I prefer the benz a lot more. Tested S6 and felt same; not the RS7.
Audi has the drive select, and I had it on dynamic for "best" road feel; however it felt a lot more superficial than the one on the benz.
08-25-2014, 07:41 PM
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2015 S550, 2014 E63 S-AMG Wagon, 2014 Audi RS7,2013 SL550, & 2011 CL550
Golden,
curious about how you see the handling/steering feel between the two, I went from an S4 to the '14 E63 wagon and I prefer the benz a lot more. Tested S6 and felt same; not the RS7.
Audi has the drive select, and I had it on dynamic for "best" road feel; however it felt a lot more superficial than the one on the benz.
curious about how you see the handling/steering feel between the two, I went from an S4 to the '14 E63 wagon and I prefer the benz a lot more. Tested S6 and felt same; not the RS7.
Audi has the drive select, and I had it on dynamic for "best" road feel; however it felt a lot more superficial than the one on the benz.
I love to drive my Benz, if I can get the keys from my lady! Otherwise, I drive the Audi. If I would take one to the track, it wound be the Benz, hands down! The wagon is my daily driver until my CL is repaired - bumper issue and the lady has the S. Can't really complain.
08-26-2014, 04:15 AM
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2014 E63S WAGON (On Order), BMW X5 (Gone), E92 M3 (Gone)
Wow, Golden
you have a nice collection of cars in yout garage
2015 MB S550 4Matic - designo diamond white/Black Nappa
2014 Audi RS7 - Black Panther Crystal/Black
2014 MB E63 S-AMG Wagon - diamond white/designo black
2013 MB SL550 silver/red premium leather
2011 MB CL550 4Matic Black/Black premium leather
2013 Porsche 911 Carrera S white/black
you have a nice collection of cars in yout garage
2015 MB S550 4Matic - designo diamond white/Black Nappa
2014 Audi RS7 - Black Panther Crystal/Black
2014 MB E63 S-AMG Wagon - diamond white/designo black
2013 MB SL550 silver/red premium leather
2011 MB CL550 4Matic Black/Black premium leather
2013 Porsche 911 Carrera S white/black
The Benz is pure class, planted and with the 4 wheel drive, not the typical oversteer you feel on the audi; pure controllable fear and fun. The Audi is more typical of the Audi in all the sport variants. Have to overcome its shortcomings. You have to be more careful, The steering and handling is not as true. RS7 is fun in a straight line, when you have to handle sharp turns, you have to really work for it. The Benz is more stealthy!
I love to drive my Benz, if I can get the keys from my lady! Otherwise, I drive the Audi. If I would take one to the track, it wound be the Benz, hands down! The wagon is my daily driver until my CL is repaired - bumper issue and the lady has the S. Can't really complain.
I love to drive my Benz, if I can get the keys from my lady! Otherwise, I drive the Audi. If I would take one to the track, it wound be the Benz, hands down! The wagon is my daily driver until my CL is repaired - bumper issue and the lady has the S. Can't really complain.
08-26-2014, 07:14 PM
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2010 S4 (sold), 2014 E63 S Wagon
01-10-2019, 12:10 AM
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What a great write up! Stoked for you and your new car. Will say this. Agree with most of what you said. However, I love the handling on my w212 e63s wagon. Daily ride might be too harsh but who cares when I can carve in our wagon on demand? Please post more on your comparisons, thanks!s
