sesquipedalian

Hello,

It's been a while since I've been on here.

I know of the P30 option, or what is now the S for later model years, and I did some digging - but I haven't found what I need. It's difficult to come up with a search string that will work.

My understanding is the P30 option includes a few items, but my main interest is in the HP and torque upgrades. In looking at some non-P30 cars for sale - what would be entailed in getting that extra power out of the stock engine?

I would appreciate any help you can offer. Thank you.

Staff@WORLD

You can simply do a tune or get a down pipe and tune at the same time for extra horsepower and some better sounding exhaust. It's a pretty easy car to get what you want out of it.

sesquipedalian

Thank you for your reply, Staff.

What then did MB do to get the extra power? I'm assuming it's more than a tune, but maybe not.

2012 merc amg

Nope it's just in the tuning they did with the P30 or S models that up the twin turbo boost I believe to a shade over 19 psi from around 13 psi. Most tunes will be even more than this plus a few other things and the tuned care will produce more power than the P30 or S model. So if you were planning a tune anyway no sense in buying a p30 model in a 2012. A couple other things you get with the P30 package is the carbon fiber engine cover and the red calipers both of which I'm sure could be pretty easily added to a non P30 model. If nothing else just powder coat the Calipers red.

sesquipedalian

Great points, 2012. Thank you. That makes sense to me.

I know I'll have to do some research to choose - but what's popular these days for brands/shops, and general pricing? Side note - many years (17) ago I had a C43, and I looked at a Brabus long block. Holy smokes - it was around 40k, and I didn't pay a whole lot more for the car than that. I think the car stickered in the mid-50s. Not worth it for the increase...

Okay - I like stock looking vehicles - no mods, so I'm cool with the standard looking calipers and the engine cover. Thank you, however, for pointing that out.

2012 merc amg

About the most reasonable tune is the Eurocharge tune, I think it's around 1200 bucks. Beyond that most tunes for these cars are 2 to 4 grand, I think the Renntech is around 3 grand or so. I'm pretty happy with mine stock although someday may do a Eurocharge tune if I get the itch for more speed.

HPMan

The 2014 E63 runs boost of 0.9 bar, or about 13 PSI, and the 2014 E63 S runs boost of 1.0 bar, or about 14.5 PSI. I'm pretty sure you'd blow things apart at 19 PSI.


I'm not sure if the internals of the non-P30 versions differ than the P30 (i.e. forged rods / pistons).

PeterUbers

Have seen several articles talk about 19psi on the S, guess they're wrong....

2012 merc amg

I did remember reading the 19 psi from articles and yes I thought that did not sound right, very high. I agree and think maybe they are wrong.

sesquipedalian

Thanks for the names, 2012. I had a few minutes and did some digging - there's lots of information on this site.

I have a question for anyone who can answer - to hijack my own thread. For the 2012 - and believe me I did some digging and still don't have an answer. Were the 5-spoke wheels an option, or were the 10-spoke wheels an option?

Thank you.

2012 merc amg

I think the 10 spoke wheels were standard and the 5 spoke wheels were an option because I dont' see anything on my window sticker about optional wheels and I have the 10 spoke. Personally I kinda like the look of the 10 spoke wheel better and from what I heard, they cost 1900 each to replace, I hope I never curb one. Anybody know the replacement cost of the 5 spoke wheels?

PeterUbers

I have the silver 10 spoke .... I also have the tire/wheel warranty because I know I'll damage these eventually

I like them better than the five spoke which are a 1900.00 or so upgrade

1900.00 each to replace these rims sounds like silly dealer fear talk.... Trying to get u to buy the tire wheel warranty. I got Mbusa to buy mine otherwise I wouldn't have bought it

2012 merc amg

Well I don't think the dealer is too far off because here are 4 wheels just like mine on ebay @ 1500 bucks a piece. To match up a damaged wheel would not be cheap. I'm extra careful with this car especially with the low profile tires it would be so easy to damage a rim. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/150965191424?lpid=82

sesquipedalian

Okay - that's what I thought: the 10-spoke are standard. I like them as well.

As for the damaging a wheel, there are wheel repair shops that can straighten, TIG weld cracks, and fill gouges, paint, etc. You shouldn't have to buy a new one.

uberwag

Bringing this back up-the P30 package in 2012 was ECU reprogramming, red calipers, specific wheels, and performance steering wheel, correct? Nothing for brakes/suspension/rear end? Looking at a car now that I plan to tune, but doesn't have the P30 nor separate LSD option.

sdg1871

If you get a tune on the M157 5.5 L biturbo engine it will produce the same exact power whether you begin with a standard model or a performance package model.

PeterUbers

Tuned rwd e63 will be a beast ... Def need to consider an LSD from what I'm reading though

LJMartin

I have a 2010 and I just replaced a optional 5 spoke AMG 19 inch rim. It cost me $2500.

2012 merc amg

Wow, I hope insurance covered it, otherwise I woulda checked ebay or other discounts sites, that's a lot of money for one wheel.

PeterUbers

Wow wow

sdg1871

$2500 per wheel is more than the cost of an HRE forged wheel (unless maybe it's carbon fiber or some giant 24 inch rim). Unbelievable.