Pulling the trigger on a 2015 E63S wagon..
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2019 E63 S
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5% discount for the E63 is the given discount for European Delivery and they waive the $925 shipping fee. Dealers have about 10% margin on the car (I assume off of the 95% of MSRP that's remaining on the sticker). You can seem to secure the 7% pretty easily but getting more than that is simply up to the dealer.
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If you have 550hp, you have the option to get in front of the person you just "woke up" in the fast lane. The computer didnt appreciate the closing speed and stepped in even though I was about the move to the left. I found it disconcerting.
Thats "WTF".
On subject, I love the distronic for one primary reason: day-to-day stop/go traffic on the highway and long distance trips, where I'm quite happy to set cruise control 10-over and then let the computer sort out the throttle/following others. It keeps the tickets away.
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Of course you'll just relax and let the guy cut you off in his 1994 F-150.
Is cruise control "computers driving for you"? Its a convenience, nothing more, combined with some nice safety perks.
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Again, I don't doubt that you'll be driving around some day and find yourself in the situation.
Of course you'll just relax and let the guy cut you off in his 1994 F-150.
Is cruise control "computers driving for you"? Its a convenience, nothing more, combined with some nice safety perks.
Of course you'll just relax and let the guy cut you off in his 1994 F-150.
Is cruise control "computers driving for you"? Its a convenience, nothing more, combined with some nice safety perks.
As for me I don't want my car braking or steering for me. But again that does not make it right or wrong -- just right for me.
And if I needed to get away from some lunatic by executing that kind of pass I would not want the computers overruling me.
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Have you every passed somebody on the right and had them speed up to try and prevent you from passing them? Ever had that happen when someone's in the lane a ways in front of you?
If you have 550hp, you have the option to get in front of the person you just "woke up" in the fast lane. The computer didnt appreciate the closing speed and stepped in even though I was about the move to the left. I found it disconcerting.
Thats "WTF".
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If you have 550hp, you have the option to get in front of the person you just "woke up" in the fast lane. The computer didnt appreciate the closing speed and stepped in even though I was about the move to the left. I found it disconcerting.
Thats "WTF".
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Ummm. ok.
Last edited by ace10; Nov 9, 2014 at 08:45 PM.
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Maybe try to avoid passing on the right, for starters?
Generally, I try to avoid getting into pissing matches over lane turf in my vehicle, but maybe that's just me.
The folks around you probably don't care for the high speed lane changes, either. Or the incredible speed differentials that are causing the nanny systems to fire off, either.
But maybe you're super-important, or have a fire to extinguish somewhere.
I see folks driving like you describe, and take incredible joy when I see them receiving a love note from the police a little further down the road.
Generally, I try to avoid getting into pissing matches over lane turf in my vehicle, but maybe that's just me.
The folks around you probably don't care for the high speed lane changes, either. Or the incredible speed differentials that are causing the nanny systems to fire off, either.
But maybe you're super-important, or have a fire to extinguish somewhere.
I see folks driving like you describe, and take incredible joy when I see them receiving a love note from the police a little further down the road.
Everytime you mention your tune or how fast your car is, I'm going to chuckle to myself.
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'14 E63S, '13 G550, '06 E320 cdi, and a bunch of other stuff.
I don't care to discuss stupid driving scenarios, but it's safe to say that if you're triggering your accident avoidance systems because of speed differential on Rte7 or Rte 50, then you're being a total asshat.
End of story.
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The situation which was described was one where some jack knob is pulling incredible mph and comes upon a slower car in the left lane, then switches lanes at the last possible moment, and is upset that the car attempts to avoid the imminent collision by applying the brakes. Seems like the car is smarter than the driver to me.
I don't care to discuss stupid driving scenarios, but it's safe to say that if you're triggering your accident avoidance systems because of speed differential on Rte7 or Rte 50, then you're being a total asshat.
End of story.
I don't care to discuss stupid driving scenarios, but it's safe to say that if you're triggering your accident avoidance systems because of speed differential on Rte7 or Rte 50, then you're being a total asshat.
End of story.
Where did I describe driving like an asshat? I pulled around a slower truck which was sitting in the fast lane of a highway, going 50-ish. There was space on the next-to-fast lane to do this without going over 65. As I closed in on a tractor trailer (probably doing 55) in front of me I went to signal and get back in the fast lane... but the dipsh*t in the F-150 had sped up to remain at my rear wheel (from 50-65) which I hadnt noticed and wasnt expecting. I went to put on the brakes (so as to avoid the back of the tractor trailer, but the car instead cinched the seatbelts and brakes for me (down to 55 or whatever)), making it impossible to change lanes.
At no point was I driving like a 350Z driver. My wife and kids were in my wagon. I've gone back and looked to see when I said I did any asshattery, and I can't see it.
65 on a 55mph road is no faster than traffic flows where you live. I'm dying to hear you say that this kind of thing would *never happen to you*. Thats the only way you could up the keyboard pirate quotient here.
"jack knob" "incredible mph" "total asshat".
I brought the whole thing up because I thought the car was NOT doing what we'd expect; not because I was impressed the car saved my ***.
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Oh, FFS. I should just let this go, since interwebz, but you read something and are making strident statements in response.
Where did I describe driving like an asshat? I pulled around a slower truck which was sitting in the fast lane of a highway, going 50-ish. There was space on the next-to-fast lane to do this without going over 65. As I closed in on a tractor trailer (probably doing 55) in front of me I went to signal and get back in the fast lane... but the dipsh*t in the F-150 had sped up to remain at my rear wheel (from 50-65) which I hadnt noticed and wasnt expecting. I went to put on the brakes (so as to avoid the back of the tractor trailer, but the car instead cinched the seatbelts and brakes for me (down to 55 or whatever)), making it impossible to change lanes.
At no point was I driving like a 350Z driver. My wife and kids were in my wagon. I've gone back and looked to see when I said I did any asshattery, and I can't see it.
65 on a 55mph road is no faster than traffic flows where you live. I'm dying to hear you say that this kind of thing would *never happen to you*. Thats the only way you could up the keyboard pirate quotient here.
"jack knob" "incredible mph" "total asshat".
I brought the whole thing up because I thought the car was NOT doing what we'd expect; not because I was impressed the car saved my ***.
Where did I describe driving like an asshat? I pulled around a slower truck which was sitting in the fast lane of a highway, going 50-ish. There was space on the next-to-fast lane to do this without going over 65. As I closed in on a tractor trailer (probably doing 55) in front of me I went to signal and get back in the fast lane... but the dipsh*t in the F-150 had sped up to remain at my rear wheel (from 50-65) which I hadnt noticed and wasnt expecting. I went to put on the brakes (so as to avoid the back of the tractor trailer, but the car instead cinched the seatbelts and brakes for me (down to 55 or whatever)), making it impossible to change lanes.
At no point was I driving like a 350Z driver. My wife and kids were in my wagon. I've gone back and looked to see when I said I did any asshattery, and I can't see it.
65 on a 55mph road is no faster than traffic flows where you live. I'm dying to hear you say that this kind of thing would *never happen to you*. Thats the only way you could up the keyboard pirate quotient here.
"jack knob" "incredible mph" "total asshat".
I brought the whole thing up because I thought the car was NOT doing what we'd expect; not because I was impressed the car saved my ***.
Funny (not really) thing is that *you* decided to further shift and continue the discussion.
It began as a comment about financial implications of optioning a vehicle. Which them morphed into a discussion about safety systems. This discussion included a vague reference to some situation where a driver might not like what the safety system *might* do.
The driving described was pure asshattery. I suggest going back and reading it.
Apparently the shoe fit and you chimed in.
And here we are. Someone trying to discuss *my* driving... My imaginary tune. And my alleged episodes of asshat driving.
I really don't care to discuss stupid human driving tricks. But suffice it to say that walking this situation down to a 10mph closing speed is totally laughable.
If you want the last word, you're welcome to it.
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Guys, you need to calm down, go sit in your respective cars, start them, rev them a couple of times to remember how lucky we are to own such beasts (with or without driver assist 
) and move on!
) and move on!
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Umm. Ok.
Funny (not really) thing is that *you* decided to further shift and continue the discussion.
It began as a comment about financial implications of optioning a vehicle. Which them morphed into a discussion about safety systems. This discussion included a vague reference to some situation where a driver might not like what the safety system *might* do.
The driving described was pure asshattery. I suggest going back and reading it.
Apparently the shoe fit and you chimed in.
And here we are. Someone trying to discuss *my* driving... My imaginary tune. And my alleged episodes of asshat driving.
I really don't care to discuss stupid human driving tricks. But suffice it to say that walking this situation down to a 10mph closing speed is totally laughable.
If you want the last word, you're welcome to it.
Funny (not really) thing is that *you* decided to further shift and continue the discussion.
It began as a comment about financial implications of optioning a vehicle. Which them morphed into a discussion about safety systems. This discussion included a vague reference to some situation where a driver might not like what the safety system *might* do.
The driving described was pure asshattery. I suggest going back and reading it.
Apparently the shoe fit and you chimed in.
And here we are. Someone trying to discuss *my* driving... My imaginary tune. And my alleged episodes of asshat driving.
I really don't care to discuss stupid human driving tricks. But suffice it to say that walking this situation down to a 10mph closing speed is totally laughable.
If you want the last word, you're welcome to it.
So, the way I see it, there is and will be a healthy market for these unique wagons with or without the Driver Assist.
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I dont see the "aggressiveness in driving style" as a factor for opting or not for the driver assist package. I have it on my car and quite enjoy it in bumper to bumper traffic or when i get distracted/tired and it pulls me back i my lane. If I want to drive in a sportier fashion (i dont like aggressive a an adjective for driving on public roads, and even on a track as it's not always the fastest way around!) I have the option to turn it all off in about 10-15 seconds and it will (i think) stay off at next startup.
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I dont see the "aggressiveness in driving style" as a factor for opting or not for the driver assist package. I have it on my car and quite enjoy it in bumper to bumper traffic or when i get distracted/tired and it pulls me back i my lane. If I want to drive in a sportier fashion (i dont like aggressive a an adjective for driving on public roads, and even on a track as it's not always the fastest way around!) I have the option to turn it all off in about 10-15 seconds and it will (i think) stay off at next startup.
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If you want to categorize me then I would prefer to be 1 and 3... I know what i'm buying but dont have a unique driving style. The advantage of the E class is that it does have multiple personalities depending on how you set it up. That is what I like about it. C mode/full ESP and comfort ride will make wife and kids happy. S+ mode/ESP in sport mode and sport + ride (add the B&O playing "timestretch" by Bassnectar quite loud) will make me happy!
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If you want to categorize me then I would prefer to be 1 and 3... I know what i'm buying but dont have a unique driving style. The advantage of the E class is that it does have multiple personalities depending on how you set it up. That is what I like about it. C mode/full ESP and comfort ride will make wife and kids happy. S+ mode/ESP in sport mode and sport + ride (add the B&O playing "timestretch" by Bassnectar quite loud) will make me happy!
The point is still related to the resale value. If LSD was optional, I would say it's a must have option and not having it would diminish the resale value. Just don't feel the same way about Driver Assist.
