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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by geebee
Yes, there is indeed a track package. US port car. See snipped from the attached build sheet.

Ace - not sure you understand the build specs on these automobiles. Carbon brakes (an $8k option) can cost as much as $12k to replace all the way around. One can also destroy them in an afternoon on a 6k ft runway. Many cars are coming into the county configured as such, and are standard on certain AMGs (like the S65). Please don't pull readers astray
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Oh, I understand just fine.

Nearly everything you have posted in this thread is BS or flat out incorrect.

There is no "Track Pack." As noted by others. You're not seeing the forest through all the trees. And looking at the build sheet is compounding that specific problem.

Confusion abounds over these stand-alone driver-aid option codes and packaged codes. The individual codes for identical features are different when included in one or the other option package. Looking at the codes on a given build sheet (of which I believe there are multiple versions) may or may not align with the groupings and codes found on the DOG.

Regardless, there is no track pack. End of story.


CCBs will not get destroyed "in one afternoon." If that were the case, the AMGDA would be performing full brake replacement jobs 2X a day. LOL... which they don't. Not even close. Imagine how many times Audi Joest would have to replace the rotors at the 24hrs of LeMans event....


Additionally, CCB (Option code B07) is $8,950 in both 2014 and 2015. Not $8,000 as you indicated.


Maybe it's time for a reset, eh?
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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Buying a wagon today? It is a Benz Company Car with limited mileage on it. What should ask for to verify it has not been abused

Do an independent PPI and insist that they throw in a CPO warranty.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 08:09 PM
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OK, geebee. You got me... I sell Mercs in my spare time.

LOLOL.

I'm glad you went back and read my post history. Not much to pick apart, is there? Just basic well documented information and fairly disclosed opinions.

You are clearly know everything there is to be known about the refreshed W212 and S212 in the US market. So having acknowledged that, I will leave you to your wild claims, stories and undocumented doc snips.

Enjoy.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 09:13 PM
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ok, ok. Whatever your point is, you win my friend. No, I didn't realize you are a car salesman. I'm wrong and you are right. I defer

But dangit, if you didn't have such a chip on your shoulder I'd like to contact you RE an S63 which I'm in the market to purchase

Frankly, I would have hoped for a more contrite demeanor - knowledgeable MB salesmen are hard to find. But smart, angry, and condescending is just not a combination I look for as I'm about to spend $200k.

And I have one thing going for me and others that view this - I'm the customer
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 09:23 PM
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Too effing funny.

I don't think we've had such a troll in this forum since I've been posting here.

Your BS is reaching epic levels. Really, it is.

I'm drawn in, though. So kudos to you.

Now how about a linky for that "track package" snip you posted?

I know where it came from. And I'm certain that you know where it came from. And at least one other person knows, too. And all three of us know that it has NOTHING to do with the facelifted W212/S212.

Once you prove someone to be dishonest, it's impossible to believe anything else they say or write.

So how about you own up to that lie? Then maybe we'll work backwards and have fun tearing apart the rest of the stuff you've written.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ace10
LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Too effing funny.

I don't think we've had such a troll in this forum since I've been posting here.

Your BS is reaching epic levels. Really, it is.

I'm drawn in, though. So kudos to you.

Now how about a linky for that "track package" snip you posted?

I know where it came from. And I'm certain that you know where it came from. And at least one other person knows, too. And all three of us know that it has NOTHING to do with the facelifted W212/S212.



Once you prove someone to be dishonest, it's impossible to believe anything else they say or write.

So how about you own up to that lie? Then maybe we'll work backwards and have fun tearing apart the rest of the stuff you've written.
Not sure what you two are up to, but with a little homework you could find the same information. Try:



on EPCnet. Which also goes for the rest of the documents you find so incredulous.

Hope your customers are as pliable and receiving of high testosterone
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 09:59 PM
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OK, since you won't own it, I'll do it for you...

This is a word-for-word snip (from a verifiable source) of what you posted earlier, then deleted.



And tah-dah.... here's the vehicle to which those two groups of equipment belong....

http://tinyurl.com/446k2xy

Ouch. Crunch. Clang.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by geebee
Not sure what you two are up to, but with a little homework you could find the same information. Try:



on EPCnet. Which also goes for the rest of the documents you find so incredulous.

Hope your customers are as pliable and receiving of high testosterone


Wow, beautiful car. I'd be interested if it had Distronic. http://www.mb-scottsdale.com/new/201...hh7gb3ea979905
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ace10
OK, since you won't own it, I'll do it for you...

This is a word-for-word snip (from a verifiable source) of what you posted earlier, then deleted.



And tah-dah.... here's the vehicle to which those two groups of equipment belong....

http://tinyurl.com/446k2xy

Ouch. Crunch. Clang.
Correct. C63 -- not E63. E63 has no track package. If it did I would have gotten it. I went over every single available item with the salesman at ordering time. Still torn over whether I should have gotten the CCB and really wanted the Mystic Blue from the CLS but went with lunar blue.
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 11:21 AM
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Wow, beautiful car. I'd be interested if it had Distronic. http://www.mb-scottsdale.com/new/201...hh7gb3ea979905

Just to put a bow on all this foolishness to which this thread has been exposed...

That VIN matches up with a MY14 E63S Wagon.

MSRP is $110,820

$102,370 Base Price
$875 Lane Tracking Package (Code 993)
$750 Night Styling (Code P60)
$500 10 Spoke Black Wheels (Code 752)
$5,400 B&O Sound System (Code 811)
$925 Destination

It is a pretty wagon, for sure. But it certainly doesn't have any sort of "Track" pack on it.
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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Ace just destroyed this guy, lol

Well played ace, as always!
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Ace just destroyed this guy, lol

Well played ace, as always!
I am not much into flame wars but this particular member, who has now deleted most of his posts in this thread earned what Ace gave him.

Obviously Ace doesn't sell these cars but he certainly knows a lot more than most of those who do.
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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I don't sell cars. But I slept at a Holiday Inn. Once.

Total BS needs to be called out. Sometimes it ends up being fun, but really it's for the next guy who comes here down the road and reads these posts to learn more about the car and ends up being misinformed.

And to be clear, I have no idea what the two axle replacement cost for the CCB rotors and pads is. I'm sure it's an eyewatering figure. But they're not gonna be toast in one half day of running. NFW.

If anyone ever sees me post BS that isn't backed by links, photos, etc. Call me out on it. I don't mind.
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ace10
I don't sell cars. But I slept at a Holiday Inn. Once.

Total BS needs to be called out. Sometimes it ends up being fun, but really it's for the next guy who comes here down the road and reads these posts to learn more about the car and ends up being misinformed.

And to be clear, I have no idea what the two axle replacement cost for the CCB rotors and pads is. I'm sure it's an eyewatering figure. But they're not gonna be toast in one half day of running. NFW.

If anyone ever sees me post BS that isn't backed by links, photos, etc. Call me out on it. I don't mind.
Let's differentiate between opinion and true BS. Sometimes you post opinions that some may think is BS, but I hope people understand that is still just an opinion. I would not expect you post any links or pictures. I'm all for free exchange of facts and opinions. But geebee just posted pure BS and then deleted it as if some of us did not get a copy of his post via email.
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Lenin, I totally accept that opinions are opinions. And others may certainly accept or reject them as such. Opinions shouldn't be presented as fact, of course.

Subjective posts are always open to further discussion. That's how a healthy forum thrives.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 02:19 AM
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No so-called track pkg for current E63, end of story.
I don't care if other people say there is, especially from a non-owner's word. Just let it be, they will find out one day.
Our time should be better invested.
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Old Dec 2, 2014 | 06:56 AM
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This is really funny stuff! It all started about a nice family grocery getter for sale. What happened?
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Originally Posted by ace10
OK, since you won't own it, I'll do it for you...

This is a word-for-word snip (from a verifiable source) of what you posted earlier, then deleted.



And tah-dah.... here's the vehicle to which those two groups of equipment belong....

http://tinyurl.com/446k2xy

Ouch. Crunch. Clang.
I do confirm
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