Tesla Model S P85D vs Mercedes-Benz E63s AMG Drag Racing 1/4 Mile
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Nice run man... And very impressive stock run and driving... What's your altitude there? What were the ambient temps?
What launch technique ... Race start or just brake torquing? Considering your timing was great on the second run I assume brake torquing.. How many rpms did u bring it up to before releasing the brake?
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I looked into Tesla and liked the car, but it just isn't for me. I just don't think I'm ready for an electric car. That said, the salesmen I spoke with were adamant that the new update will bring the car into the 10's and future updates will take it to solid tens. That is pretty insane!
I wonder if, with this update in power, if they will increase the battery power?? If not, looks like the Tesla will really be down on power for the second pass with the upgrade. It is definitely a cool car, but it really blends in with other cars on the road(IMO) from a styling perspective, kind of boring..
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The 1st pass and the second pass were at least 45mins to an hour apart, you would have to ask Brooks (owner of Tesla) to confirm. But remember the Tesla isn't at full power yet (which is insane) but that car should be much faster based upon the hp figure Tesla claims.
I have run the E63S in ever "mode" and the best run I have had was in "S" mode foot floored on the gas with other foot on the brake gave me the best launch. BTW launch control doesn't work well on the track.
I have run the E63S in ever "mode" and the best run I have had was in "S" mode foot floored on the gas with other foot on the brake gave me the best launch. BTW launch control doesn't work well on the track.
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On my car launch control seemed to be the most consistsnt way to launch it, and while it produced the quickest time on my car the differences between RS and foot braking was a couple of hundredths at most. Last time out I made 25 passes over a 4 hour period and I think one of the reasons for inconsistency is the way the computer applies the clutch differently during launch and shifts from run to run. Mind you when I say inconsistent I'm talking varying by .08-.09 over 25 passes with stable weather conditions, but to a bracket racer that's all over the place. By comparison my WS6 in similar circumstances would vary by .015-.02
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Yeah, launch control sucks(on our cars) when you are trying to race somebody or get the tree. It works good on a solo pass when you just sit there to engage it and the light is still green...lol
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Just need to work out a system for staging the car, our launch control may not be the easiest to use but it's not horrible and a lot easier than some. You generally have several seconds stage to start, most ET classes have a 1.3-1.5 second delay stage to start for a total of 2.7 to 3.0 seconds - more than enough time to get set and the rpm up. Cutting a good light is more than doable, keeping your lights in a tight window not so much.
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Do you stage first or wait for the other driver to stage first? If the other driver stages first is there enough time to get the car into LC? Not pre stage.
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I always courtesy stage so no double bulbing, but since we do not need to burn out we can go up and prestage while the other person is heating the tires. If the other person is not doing a burnout I still try and prestage first. I always make sure traction control is on sport and trans is in sport plus before going into the beams. As soon as the other guy prestages I bump the stage beam and stay shallow, turn the rotory knob two clicks right, tap the up shift paddle and it's in racestart - usually I give it a second after the other guy prestages before going on the throttle, it will stay at rpm for quite a bit but I'm sure at some point it will cut off I just never found that limit.
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you can run the Tesla back to back at the drag strip, when I did it lost about .03 off the 1/4 mile ET.... It was a busy day, I was racing quite a few cars all day long...
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(Was this on OEM stock 19" wheels?) That rig has a high 9.9x in it to boot, in some good cool Negative DA
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thanks, the McLaren moves out for sure, it does everything exceptionally well, road course, drag strip, easy to drive when in comfort modes, etc...
AMS sent me the drag radials on custom forgeline 19" wheels to try and get into the 9's... I normally run Toyo R888 tires the stock 20" wheels... I ran 10.2 with the R888 everyday setup.
we need more RPM's on the launch to go 9's, it only comes out at 3k RPM and it dead hooked the 1.58 60'... 3,800 RPM would do it... now that they have the ECU cracked there will be a lot of McLaren development going on... upgraded turbos, etc...
pulls hard on the top end, I walked away from a LP560 Spyder Twin Turbo bolt-on car that was trapping 139 MPH...
AMS sent me the drag radials on custom forgeline 19" wheels to try and get into the 9's... I normally run Toyo R888 tires the stock 20" wheels... I ran 10.2 with the R888 everyday setup.
we need more RPM's on the launch to go 9's, it only comes out at 3k RPM and it dead hooked the 1.58 60'... 3,800 RPM would do it... now that they have the ECU cracked there will be a lot of McLaren development going on... upgraded turbos, etc...
pulls hard on the top end, I walked away from a LP560 Spyder Twin Turbo bolt-on car that was trapping 139 MPH...
Dayumm impressive lineup of 1/4 mi slips/records you've run there sir.. Most impressive auto & 1/4 stat to me above the blistering 10.15 1/4 & Gulp... 5.78 60-130 Tune only on tiny 3.8 liter v8 is you cut a 1.58 60' w/giant 345/30/19 Nitto drag tires not even slicks (Was this on OEM stock 19" wheels?) That rig has a high 9.9x in it to boot, in some good cool Negative DA
(Was this on OEM stock 19" wheels?) That rig has a high 9.9x in it to boot, in some good cool Negative DA
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lol I'm Jurassic too my V12 Biturbo's 05' BUT... They knew the V12tt was not going anywhere even though we must hear every other year they will put it out to pasture lol it keeps showing up in the Showrooms..
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Niles Crane would drive a Tesla.
Tesla's remind me of big golf carts but love the clean aspect.
Try a drag race over 120 miles and see who wins, hahahaha. Tesla's are cool and everyone in my neighborhood has one. It is like AMG Vs Tesla around here.
Tesla's remind me of big golf carts but love the clean aspect.
Try a drag race over 120 miles and see who wins, hahahaha. Tesla's are cool and everyone in my neighborhood has one. It is like AMG Vs Tesla around here.
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Cool video! No doubt the Tesla is fast off the line and 0-60 in 3.2 is quick for any car! I drove the P85 before and it is crazy quick! However, there are a lot of cars out there powered all sorts of different types of energy that are fast. These 2 cars are just of many. I liked the teslas 0-60 and that to me is where it all stopped. They are in a way different league performance wise then the Volt, Leaf, B Class and all the other crappy EV cars out there for sale. However, The looks are not great at all and the interior was **** poor. The carpeting was awful, the dash design was ugly, the giant screen don't get me going on that or the door handles. The seats looks like they came from a Ford Focus. The inside is just all around bad in everyway from the carpet to the headliner with 0 attention to detail for a $100,000 car. The ride was ok but not great. The drive itself was duel and boring. Like the car was made from Novocain with no sense of feel to holding the road or any of that. I guess if you want this car you pay for the technology, the battery performance and that is really it. I personally think the E63 and P85 while comparable in performance are 2 very different cars. I would rather have a E63 AMG Wagon.
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For the "vin diesels" out there that live their lives a 1/4 mile at a time, please please buy the tesla, not the inferior ugly slower and pedantic e63...
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Before buying my E63S, I considered the Tesla and saw the great 0-60 times magazine guys got out of fresh full charge test rides, but what happens when in the real world you meet an E63S (or similar supersedan) at a stpolight and you're at 55% charge ?
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Exactly! Tesla's great 0-60 is only good for a few runs. On the other hand, E63's 0-60 is consistent. It's certainly easier, faster, and more convenient to fuel up than waiting for the battery to charge, looking for a charging station, etc.
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However, I thought the fit and finish of the interior was awful, looking more like an economy car in many places especially some of the less visible parts and the joining of interior parts. I also thought the suspension was lousy. I thought the car's grip was limited as well. I did like the stereo and the huge display. But I would never consider the car due to the above and due to the fact that once you're off the beaten path you're sort of screwed if you go very far as there are no superchargers in those places. For example, try taking it one day ski trip to Hunter Mountain from New York City. You can't make it there and back on one charge.
Perhaps you can find a supercharger as the car is running out of power on the way back. Or try taking the car on a Vermont trip. No superchargers there to get home. Car works fine as a daily driver/commuter car or fine on the very biggest interstate from city to city but lacks the flexibility for any situation.
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Haven't heard anything more about battery swap stations yet
Tesla will be more viable in 2018 if they haven't caved by then
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Tesla are fast cars from 0-60 because of the electric motor. You get 100 percent torque starting at 0 miles per hour.
However, as you go faster with any electric motor you will get back EMF that slows down the electric motor because it would start acting like an electric generator. This is the reason why after 60 mph or after 80 mph an AMG would eat a Tesla for breakfast.
However, as you go faster with any electric motor you will get back EMF that slows down the electric motor because it would start acting like an electric generator. This is the reason why after 60 mph or after 80 mph an AMG would eat a Tesla for breakfast.
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In the real world of passing a line of slow movers on a two lane highway or blasting from sweeper to sweeper to a tight corner and onto a long straight, the Tesla will rapidly disappear in the E63's rear view mirror. Try going out in the country and blasting around for a couple of hours at triple digit speeds in the Tesla. The Tesla is well suited for urban dwellers that slog through congestion and endless stoplight hell on a daily basis. Those of us for whom a performance driving experience is necessarily a viscerally and auditorily stimulating fusion will never get excited about electric performance cars.
