Throttle lag from stop is annoying....
07-22-2016, 11:14 PM
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I have learned to love my sprintbooster
I keep it in "green"
I keep it in "green"
07-25-2016, 07:48 PM
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hmm this sounds super annoying.. I guess I'll enjoy the immediate NA throttle response for now. One of the few advantages I guess of the NA motor.
07-26-2016, 10:34 AM
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My 2010 E63 does this too, I don't believe it makes a difference M156 vs. M157 platform. It definitely sounds like a manual transmission once you get it going. Almost like it has a certain stall or rpm it needs before the transmission engages and moves. Just a matter of getting used to it, like driving a manual transmission.
07-26-2016, 11:06 AM
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My 2010 E63 does this too, I don't believe it makes a difference M156 vs. M157 platform. It definitely sounds like a manual transmission once you get it going. Almost like it has a certain stall or rpm it needs before the transmission engages and moves. Just a matter of getting used to it, like driving a manual transmission.
a manual transmission responds in a predictable way the MB transmission is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you are going to get. Scary dangerous when you are depending on your car to get you going in dangerous situations like a car running a red light...just saying... the MB 2015 transmission is as bad as the first automatic Porsche's transmission
07-26-2016, 12:17 PM
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Really? a manual transmission responds in a predictable way the MB transmission is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you are going to get. Scary dangerous when you are depending on your car to get you going in dangerous situations like a car running a red light...
just saying... the MB 2015 transmission is as bad as the first automatic Porsche's transmission
a manual transmission responds in a predictable way the MB transmission is like a box of chocolates...you never know what you are going to get. Scary dangerous when you are depending on your car to get you going in dangerous situations like a car running a red light...just saying... the MB 2015 transmission is as bad as the first automatic Porsche's transmission
07-26-2016, 12:44 PM
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So this doesn't make any sense to me - if it reduces the time it takes for a full throttle signal by 25%, why do they state:
• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.
• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.
So is it all in your head with this thing? It doesn't actually solve the delay, just makes you feel better about it based on the response of the pedal?
One would think a 25% reduction in time to WOT would increase 0-60, even if only incrementally by a tenth.
• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.
• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.
So is it all in your head with this thing? It doesn't actually solve the delay, just makes you feel better about it based on the response of the pedal?
One would think a 25% reduction in time to WOT would increase 0-60, even if only incrementally by a tenth.
07-26-2016, 01:10 PM
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So this doesn't make any sense to me - if it reduces the time it takes for a full throttle signal by 25%, why do they state:
• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.
• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.
So is it all in your head with this thing? It doesn't actually solve the delay, just makes you feel better about it based on the response of the pedal?
One would think a 25% reduction in time to WOT would increase 0-60, even if only incrementally by a tenth.
• Sprint Booster does not reduce your 0-60mph times.
• Sprint Booster DOES make your car 'FEEL' faster.
So is it all in your head with this thing? It doesn't actually solve the delay, just makes you feel better about it based on the response of the pedal?
One would think a 25% reduction in time to WOT would increase 0-60, even if only incrementally by a tenth.
This thing helps significantly with routine driving and makes your brain feel more confident about the mct throttle response.... And isn't that the goal?
07-26-2016, 01:16 PM
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I see what you're saying but now, it is a mind game that truly does make you feel your car is quicker and more confidently able to move when you want it to move. We are talking about differences felt with partial throttle... WOT won't be any different with or without sprintbooster
This thing helps significantly with routine driving and makes your brain feel more confident about the mct throttle response.... And isn't that the goal?
This thing helps significantly with routine driving and makes your brain feel more confident about the mct throttle response.... And isn't that the goal?
Try driving any BMW and put it in sport or sport plus mode. I believe the throttle calibrations are like adding a sprint booster.
07-26-2016, 01:27 PM
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07-26-2016, 01:53 PM
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Example of how it works
Throttle imput to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
19 omhs________________19 ohms_________________95%
Throttle imput to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
19 omhs________________19 ohms_________________95%
07-26-2016, 07:16 PM
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Example of how it works
Throttle imput to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
19 omhs________________19 ohms_________________95%
Throttle imput to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
19 omhs________________19 ohms_________________95%
I will post some reviews when I get this unit and install.
07-26-2016, 08:57 PM
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I never would have thought MB could make a car harder to roll out smoothly than the E55 with it's clutched supercharger but this car is stupid in sport/sport+ mode. Can I use this in the opposite direction? I'm totally fine with my pedal map except for tip in. I'd like to reduce input on the first 10-15% to eliminate the jerky take off when in sport modes. Also is it easy to toggle off when I want no changes at the track?
Example of how it works
Throttle imput to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
19 omhs________________19 ohms_________________95%
Throttle imput to Box_____Box output to PCM_________Actual Throttle Pedal
3 ohms_________________4 ohms__________________15%
5 ohms_________________7 ohms__________________25%
7 ohms_________________10 ohms_________________35%
9 ohms_________________13 ohms_________________45%
11 ohms________________15 ohms_________________55%
13 ohms________________16 ohms_________________65%
15 ohms________________17 ohms_________________75%
17 ohms________________18 ohms_________________85%
19 omhs________________19 ohms_________________95%
07-26-2016, 09:20 PM
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I never would have thought MB could make a car harder to roll out smoothly than the E55 with it's clutched supercharger but this car is stupid in sport/sport+ mode. Can I use this in the opposite direction? I'm totally fine with my pedal map except for tip in. I'd like to reduce input on the first 10-15% to eliminate the jerky take off when in sport modes. Also is it easy to toggle off when I want no changes at the track?
You cannot dial down the tip in but sprint makes the stop and go better ... You can toggle on off on the fly so long as you're not depressing the accelerator
07-27-2016, 09:29 AM
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I never would have thought MB could make a car harder to roll out smoothly than the E55 with it's clutched supercharger but this car is stupid in sport/sport+ mode. Can I use this in the opposite direction? I'm totally fine with my pedal map except for tip in. I'd like to reduce input on the first 10-15% to eliminate the jerky take off when in sport modes. Also is it easy to toggle off when I want no changes at the track?
07-27-2016, 02:11 PM
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Yes I have, but my dealer blamed my "Aftermarket Radar Detector", even though it was the third time i brought the car in and only got the detector installed a week before I brought it in for the forth time. Oh and they also blamed my "entry and go" keyless intermittently working on the fact that I have a radar detector.
It's not your detector, I can vouch for that. It sucks being in the rain and trying to senor open the trunk and it wont work. So you have to get your keys out.
07-27-2016, 03:09 PM
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Have any of you guys with these key problems had your aux battery checked?
10-11-2016, 08:49 PM
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2016 C450 v6TT
Over a week of driving and no lagging like the 63TT.This car respond like a NA motor, no turbo lag, throttle response is there with a touch.I love it, feel so nimble.
I am going try and test drive a c63.
I am going try and test drive a c63.
10-11-2016, 11:25 PM
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Make sure you try a late 16' E63 as well. I test drove C63S and 16' E63S AMG back to back and did not notice any difference in throttle response or lag. New C63S and lightly used 16' E63 Wagon were roughly priced same. I went with the wagon. Easy choice. C63S does one thing better than E63S though, with a slight jab at the throttle while cornering in race mode resulted in tail spin. It can be a good or a bad thing depending on your driving style.
