sdg1871

Just got word from my MB dealer that they are getting 2 new 2016 AMG GT S cars in soon that they will sell at MSRP without a market adjustment above MSRP. They had sent me the build sheets.


As you know, I just got my 2015 E63 S sedan from them and heavily modded it (Renntech full tune, Renntech sport mufflers, full XPEL clear bra, HRE RS101 3 piece forged wheels, Clearplex, tints, hideaway license plate, painted rotor hats) and just got a leftover new 2014 991 Turbo S coupe so I couldn't buy one right now from them. I thought I would pass it one to my fellow member as many dealers will be heavily marking up the initial deliveries of the AMG GT S above MSRP.


If anyone is interested in scoring one of these for MSRP I am sure I could put you in touch with them. Just PM me.


One is Designo Selenite grey exterior with Edition 1 interior/package, AMG black diamond trim, illuminated door sills and lane tracking package. MSRP is $168,533 with destination and gas guzzler tax.


The other is Magnetite Black with black Nappa exclusive leather, AMG carbon fiber door sill cover, AMG carbn fiber trim -- gloss, lane tracking package, Exclusive Interior Package, Pano roof, carbon fiber crossbar, 19/20 inch AMG cross-spoke forged wheels and Exclusive Interior Trib. MSRP is $176,620 with destination and gas guzzler tax.


Personally, I am expecting a lot of dealers out there will have huge "market adjustment" markups on the first batch of these cars.

Chocofishez

I think they priced it too high...

I went to one of the launch track days for this car in Palm Springs. it's a great car but that's 10-15 higher than I thought it would be. Even the AMG guys there were saying 'close to 150k'. I guess maybe it is with no options.

I am really hoping we see a lot of lightly used SLS's hitting the market now that this car is out.

BrabusNYC

Can you show us your hideaway plate?

abcut973

None of these 2 GT-S have CCB?

sdg1871

Here ya go!

sdg1871

Look when it comes to sport cars I am a Porsche 911 fanatic. I got a killer deal for my new 2014 991 TTS at $168k for a $194,240 sticker car.


I do think the AMG GT S is a beautiful car. I also think that many dealers will try a huge market adjustment upward from MSRP on the first batch of them. MSRP on the first batch is probably as good as it is going to get for those who must have a launch car. And there are AMG fanatics who are going to want this car badly.


It does appear that the pricing level is on par with a decently optioned 991 Turbo at MSRP. I don't think the GT S offers the acceleration of the 991 Turbo. But it certainly is a beautiful car and from the clips I have heard sounds a lot better than the 991 Turbo.


Based on the build sheets I have, the base price is reasonable--$129,000. But the options are very expensive (for example, the lane tracking package which is lane keeping assist and blind spot assistant is $7,777 which is ridiculously high and the AMG Black Diamond Trim is $7,777) and the car is slapped with a $7,777 gas guzzler tax.

sdg1871

Neither has CCB from what I see. Both have the red calipers.

HKJay

Holy crap, I never even knew this was a thing!! I need it. When you have time could you pm me some more info and where to buy? Thanks.

ace10

Would anyone really choose an AMG GTS over a nicely equipped 991TT?

otakki

They sure are worthy alternatives to the already sold out 991 GT3's. Not changing the subject...but personally, I would lean away from AMG GTS and 991TTS and more towards a GT3.

sdg1871

Here you go:

http://www.hidetheplate.com/

I got mine through Detailing Dynamics who installed them

Vic55

I went this route. Of course I dont have any experience yet with the GT-S but I have had 4 Turbo's including a 991 Turbo S. While the car was a complete rocket, it just wasnt the driver that "I" wanted and in December I got the GT3; what an incredible car to drive, turn, accelerate, and listen to (key). The Turbo S was insta quick in digs and rolls and even with a tune (I did GIAC along with exhaust) it still felt more like a GT car than a real race car on the street which the GT3 is IMHO. There is something to be said about not only performance numbers but driver experience. Im not knocking the Turbo S as its fantastic but to me, the GT3 is better.

I figured the GT-S would be stickering (with proper options) around 160k.... its gonna be soft a$$ car soon enough.

forcefed4door

No on else thinks it's a bit ugly? Reminds me of a panorama

abcut973

I would if I could! Always been a fan of NA engines vs FI.

sc98

I'm not a huge fan of the styling either. Edges are a little too rounded and vague, and overall kind of amorphous to my eye.

otakki

I bet, especially with it screaming up to 9K rpm--must be music to the ears. The 991 GT3 is so good it leaves little to improve on for the recently released GT3RS, which also don't redline at 9K rpm.

While I'm sure MB GTS is no slouch, it's difficult to imagine it being able to catch up to a 991 GT3.

sdg1871

Living in NYC, the super low ground clearance (3 inches) and the mere 5 degree max approach angle of the 991 GT3 kept it out of consideration for me. You get opt for the lifting system but it only gives the car another inch of ground clearance.

Just not practical or usable enough where I live. But I would take it any day over an AMG GT S as a track toy. I got the 991 TTS because it is a hell of a lot faster in a straight line (10.9 second quarter stock and 10.2 with GIAC stage 2 and free flow exhaust) has tons more power down low where you actually use it normal normal driving and is a lot more comfortable and practical as a daily driver.

With respect to AMG GT S, the $130k base price is fine and puts in the the league of the 991 GTS. But the options are breathtakingly expensive as is the $7777 gas guzzler tax and rocket the car into 991 Turbo territory or even 991 TTS territory where I don't think the car can compete. Still I think it is a beautiful car and will find buyers.

zibby43

The fact that the AMG GT is even in the conversation is a remarkable achievement for the brand. For someone looking for a pure track toy, I agree that the more hardcore 911s would be better choices.

For someone that wants a beast of a road car that is also capable of competent track duty, the GT S seems like a good choice.

The SLS was a fast GT car. All of the AMG GT/GT S reviews have been glowing. Quite simply, it's probably the closest thing to a true sports car that AMG has ever built.

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...rsche-911-gts/

ace10

And yet, I still wouldn't even give the GTS a second (or first) thought if I had $160-180K burning a hole in my pocket and wanted to spend it on a sports car.

If this dealership has two available, it sounds like I'm not alone. This is a VERY bad sign for MBAMG, and I'm perfectly fine with it. Let them drop the price by a third and release some idiotic AMG GT sport very, or some other such nonsense.

zibby43

Kind of a small sample size to be drawing such broad conclusions, no? It's not really surprising to me at all that there are cars unaccounted for. This isn't a limited production run vehicle (in contrast to something like the Cayman GT4) and the GT/GT S launch is still in its infancy. My local BMW dealer had 3-4 F8X M3s/M4s on the lot at launch when they debuted (and they're much more affordable). Despite this, the F8X has sold well up to this point.

I found 20 new W212 E63s for sale, including 5 at MB of Beverly Hills and 4 at MB of Denver. The GT has strong competition in its price range and so does the E63 (M5, RS6, CTS-V, Panamera, etc.). Found a couple new 991 911 GT3s sitting on lots as well.

ace10

No. And I made one conclusion.... multiple unsold incoming units to a single location is a bad sign for such a hyped car.


I couldn't care less about BWM's. They're the equivalent of a Toyota these days.

Do you really think that there's some any sort of possible equivalency of unsold W212 E63's at the end of their second model year with the GTS? That W212 inventory has to carry dealers over to the next model year at this point.

Could you find a 991 GT3 available for sale when they were first being shipped? No, of course you couldn't.

sdg1871

Yes the 911 GT3 and GT3RS are really track focused cars thay do not make good daily drivers (streetable competition tires that are basically unusable in the wet or the cold) and super low ground clearances of about 3 inches with 5 degree max driveway approach angle.

The 911 GTS which is in the AMG GT S's price range makes a fine daily driver as does the 911 Turbo and Turbo S. My Turbo S has six inches of ground clearance and a driveway approach angle of more than 10 degrees and a comfortable ride for a sports car. The rock hard rides are the GT3s. I daily drive my 991 Turbo S alternating with my E63 S on an 80 mile round trip commute and it is excellent in that role. It has all wheel drive and with my winter tires it handles the snow very well.

The bottom line is if you get an AMG GT S with options it becomes as expensive as a 991 Turbo or Turbo S (if you get a deal). I think at that price range the AMG GT S is too expensive. But we will see what the market does. It is certainly a beautiful car

cnolke

If an owner isnt going to track it (and face it, almost nobody really does in any way where a few seconds matter... you can have a metric sh*t-ton of fun in a Miata @ a track day), second/third/fourth-car sports cars should really be a matter of taste rather than numbers on a page. I think this is why so few of us have GT-Rs. My experience with a (2011) 997 Turbo S was that it was too stiff and bland sounding for my tastes. My father-in-law has an SLS and I do like that quite a bit. While Im really excited to drive the AMG GT, the prices above are pretty shockingly high. I feel like the car competes in the 991 GTS zone. I don't think a few on dealer lots are proof of anything, but $170k is a lot for the car.

These days, if you aren't selling a car that does *everything* well, you aren't going to sell many cars at $170k. Ask the SLS This reminds me a little of the BMW Z8.

zibby43

I wasn't implying that you made multiple conclusions. Using the phrase "such . . . conclusions" also means "conclusions of that type." But, to an extent, I agree. I should have said "such a broad conclusion."

I'm detecting a little hostility in your response. I certainly wasn't trying to challenge/attack you.

Re: the GT3's availability at launch, I wouldn't know because I wasn't in the market. You're probably right though. Regardless, it's surprising to me that there are some out there up for grabs now because there are going to be a lot less GT3s than there will be GT/GT S cars.

The Cayman GT4 is sold out already.

As far as you not caring about BMWs, that's fine. But I think my example was a sound one. There was no shortage of F8Xs at launch (and they're much cheaper than the GT/GT S). There was quite a bit of hype over the F8X. They've sold well. I don't work for MB/AMG but I'm guessing no one is panicking over the fact that one dealer has two unsold units that aren't even on the showroom floor yet. Still, one problem with my example is that the F8X will be a higher volume model than the GT/GT S.

Have a good one.

That is one hell of a stable my friend.

Midcont

Have you seen what z8's are selling for these days?