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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 01:13 PM
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C7 Z06 *Kill*

I haven't had a chance to update my profile picture, currently have 2014 E63s (weistec tune and down pipes).

So as im crushing this 65 degree day here in New York I see a brand new white z06 (auto) (stage 1 aero) turn onto the highway, so what do I do... Duh follow him since I saw it was young guys lol.
I pull up next to him and give it a little gas so he hears my exhaust note and he looks over with that come on don't even bother me face (obviously doesn't know a thing about these cars). Next I decide to punch it to see if it will entice him, this gets him going. He pulls up to me fast we let traffic go and he looks at me and tells me to go as to give me a jump and I so I punch it, he doesn't even down shift at all and I pull away easily. He thought it was gonna be a easy go for him since the dealer prob told him it's the fastest car on the road 😹😹😹.
From this point on he down shifts gets in the correct gear and we do 4 pulls all different gears and MPHs 2 from a 2nd gear 4k rpm roll. Everytime same outcome I would pull out anywhere between 1 1/2 and 2 1/2 cars on him to about 130-140. I was happy with the result and I wouldn't be so happy if I was him 😈. His face was priceless and he didn't stick around to talk I got a thumbs up.
I must say I was very close to buying a Z06 myself but after all the disappointment of it not living up what I thought it was gonna be i reconsidered, still I will say its a awesome car and one of the best for the money on the road.

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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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Weistec tune and down pipes on an m157 and not much will be standing in your way and not in your rear view mirror

You must go through gas quick

Nice run, at least you got a thumbs up... That's some level of respect
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 02:56 PM
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Nice kill!
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 04:14 PM
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Also you getting about 1.5 car lengths ahead to 140mph speaks to how impressive the z06 is as well... Keeping up with your 740hp/850lb monster to a good degree

What's stage 1 aero? Hard to know if the z06 was modded under the hood
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 06:09 PM
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Good story and Grats on the kill. I don't need a tune...I don't need a tune...(repeat daily)
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by eurowerx
I must say I was very close to buying a Z06 myself but after all the disappointment of it not living up what I thought it was gonna be i reconsidered, still I will say its a awesome car and one of the best for the money on the road.
Its a race car for the street, what else do you want it to be?

Not to be a downer, but I"m not really sure the point of this, you have 100hp on him and 200lbs of torque and you raced him on the highway where power to weight gets overshadowed by pure power. If you raced him for a stop, assuming he could manage to launch without spinning the tires, it likely would have been dead even or the you looking at his tail lights.
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 06:26 PM
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Good story and Grats on the kill. I don't need a tune...I don't need a tune...(repeat daily)
Repeat after me... WAH-ruhn-tee
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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Touché.

How much does a M157 crate engine go for? I need to put that up on my whiteboard where I can see it at all times.
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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How much does a M157 crate engine go for? I need to put that up on my whiteboard where I can see it at all times.
Smart. How does $25,000 sound... Totally guessing here... Not including labor.. And he engine can likely handle it but you'll burn through plugs ever 20k miles ... It's the drivetrain i would be worried about
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 08:18 PM
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Smart. How does $25,000 sound... Totally guessing here... Not including labor.. And he engine can likely handle it but you'll burn through plugs ever 20k miles ... It's the drivetrain i would be worried about
Not too far off...$29k plus shipping from Holland
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BRA...-/151287382977
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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Not too far off...$29k plus shipping from Holland
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BRA...-/151287382977
I should buy a couple spares just in case ... you know... Just sayin
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 09:37 PM
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Quite the story, 140 on the street? Really
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 09:44 PM
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Its a race car for the street, what else do you want it to be?

Not to be a downer, but I"m not really sure the point of this, you have 100hp on him and 200lbs of torque and you raced him on the highway where power to weight gets overshadowed by pure power. If you raced him for a stop, assuming he could manage to launch without spinning the tires, it likely would have been dead even or the you looking at his tail lights.
Well it's more like 70-80 hp and he also has about 800lbs of weight on me. From a dig on the street I would prob do worse to him considering awd.
Next it doesn't impress me that the c6 z06 (last model 2006 ect) run close to the same times. Highway racing all comes down to mph. The c7 Z06 traps at 126-127 so that's one fast car rolling.
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Also you getting about 1.5 car lengths ahead to 140mph speaks to how impressive the z06 is as well... Keeping up with your 740hp/850lb monster to a good degree

What's stage 1 aero? Hard to know if the z06 was modded under the hood
Stage 1 aero is the lowest drag which means fastest rolling z06. What many people over looks is a Z06 is a race car and a E63 is a 4 door cruising sports car.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 07:00 AM
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Well it's more like 70-80 hp and he also has about 800lbs of weight on me. From a dig on the street I would prob do worse to him considering awd.
Next it doesn't impress me that the c6 z06 (last model 2006 ect) run close to the same times. Highway racing all comes down to mph. The c7 Z06 traps at 126-127 so that's one fast car rolling.
Highway racing comes down to power, you have a lot more of it. Same reason lightweight lotus don't do well on big tracks, they get killed on the straights by cars with more power. And as I said, from a start, it depends if he could launch it without spinning.

An M5 would be a fair comparison, comparing beating a Z06, or an R8 etc is kind of silly as they are laughing because their car is much more fun to drive.

I love my E63 and would never go back to a sports car for a daily driver, but this is just comparing apples to oranges and one of them is non stock making it worse.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:42 AM
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Highway racing comes down to power, you have a lot more of it. Same reason lightweight lotus don't do well on big tracks, they get killed on the straights by cars with more power. And as I said, from a start, it depends if he could launch it without spinning.

An M5 would be a fair comparison, comparing beating a Z06, or an R8 etc is kind of silly as they are laughing because their car is much more fun to drive.

I love my E63 and would never go back to a sports car for a daily driver, but this is just comparing apples to oranges and one of them is non stock making it worse.
Actually all racing comes down to power to weight ratio. Hence why motorcycles are so fast, they don't have a lot of power but weigh nothing. If you think it all comes down to power then think again. Look at the Ariel Atom it has 245-310 horsepower but only weighs 1300lbs and it would destroy my car. That's why they always try and make cars lighter and lighter (gt3 rs)(ACR)(csl M3) ect. In the end it's more of me laughing that a 4300lb sled can outrun 3500lb racecar with no more than 70-80 hp. For a more fun car to drive I would agree, the Z06 would be the car I would take out. I actually love that car. Watch out for the 2016 viper gonna be twin turbo 800hp beast
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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I love my E63 and would never go back to a sports car for a daily driver, but this is just comparing apples to oranges and one of them is non stock making it worse.
Exactly. More fair comparison would be to an M5 or a CTS-V. I can't wait to see what it's like against the new CTS-V.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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Exactly. More fair comparison would be to an M5 or a CTS-V. I can't wait to see what it's like against the new CTS-V.
Magnet suspension has always seemed pretty impressive in the reviews ... Too bad no awd
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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Exactly. More fair comparison would be to an M5 or a CTS-V. I can't wait to see what it's like against the new CTS-V.
Magnet suspension has always seemed pretty impressive in the reviews ... Too bad no awd option like m5 is getting with Xdrive in 2016
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Smart. How does $25,000 sound... Totally guessing here... Not including labor.. And he engine can likely handle it but you'll burn through plugs ever 20k miles ... It's the drivetrain i would be worried about
Try more like $50K for a new crate engine from the dealer. At least that's what the old 6.2L V8 M156 from the older 63s cost! The V12s are even crazier amounts of money.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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Magnet suspension has always seemed pretty impressive in the reviews ... Too bad no awd
I drove a CTS-V with the magnetic suspension. There were two settings, rough and rougher. In the E63, I can't really tell the difference between the settings either. I'm not sure why the reviewers always say its so great.

Frankly, the CTS-V coupe I drove rode harder than my C6 vette in tour mode in magnetic.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Always fun pulling on someone and seeing the face reaction! nice kill!
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Thx yea was fun. As far as a fair race goes, M5 ect yes they are more in my league but I hope you guys aren't stating that it's unfair in his favor lol. Cause that would be rediculous. Being that the new CTS-V will have the same motor as that Z06 and weigh more .
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