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Old 11-04-2015, 04:14 PM
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I am not sure if you are aware of the statistics shown recently but Mercedes drivers were found to have the highest IQ, maybe this has something to do with it? Followed by Audi and BMW, Vette owners were found to be 2nd lowest IQ slightly ahead of mustang owners who came in lowest overall.
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hmmm how do I say this ok
my Ferrari or Lambo, makes the Corvette feel like a shopping cart on steroids however more like progesterone. Don't talk about my Ferrari/Lambo on a Mercedes Benz forum however since I came across a thread about a Corvette POS figured I would express my views. Enjoy your shopping cart.
The jealousy comes through loud and clear on this reply. Talk all you want your ferrari/lambo are a distant second performance wise. Facts are facts. Now if you would move over, I have to pass your over priced turds.
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I've owned both AMG's and Corvettes. I currently have a new z06. This car makes everything Mercedes makes feel like a Camry. Less than a grand in mods and I'm at low 10's. Not to mention some of the best handling and braking in the world. Stomps 99.9% of German cars with ease. POS. Lol.

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someone paid you to say that right?
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someone paid you to say that right?
How's your GT3 do against it? Oh yeah, not well. I own a Mercedes and a Corvette. You guys just don't keep up with cars. I live next to FJ Mercedes Newport Beach. I run against AMG's all the time, they are a very easy kill for a new Z06.
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Originally Posted by 600hpvette
I've owned both AMG's and Corvettes. I currently have a new z06. This car makes everything Mercedes makes feel like a Camry. Less than a grand in mods and I'm at low 10's. Not to mention some of the best handling and braking in the world. Stomps 99.9% of German cars with ease. POS. Lol.

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It seems your IQ may have been effected since you moved to a Vette. You are displaying all the symptoms. That you think build quality of a Vette is anything close to German builds is evidence of that.


BTW my original post was sarcasm

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How's your GT3 do against it? Oh yeah, not well. I own a Mercedes and a Corvette. You guys just don't keep up with cars. I live next to FJ Mercedes Newport Beach. I run against AMG's all the time, they are a very easy kill for a new Z06.
please dont mention the two in the same sentence.
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It seems your IQ may have been effected since you moved to a Vette. You are displaying all teh symptons. That you think build quality of a Vette is anything close to German builds is evidence of that.


BTW my original post was sarcasm
Where did I claim the build quality was the same? I daily drive an E Class because it is comfortable as hell and feels like a tank. I was talking about performance. The build quality of the z06 is that of a race car, straight up. It's loud, fun and scary. Go test drive one and tell me it isn't the fastest stock car you have ever been in or driven...

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Originally Posted by 600hpvette
The jealousy comes through loud and clear on this reply. Talk all you want your ferrari/lambo are a distant second performance wise. Facts are facts. Now if you would move over, I have to pass your over priced turds.
You wouldn't be doing it if
1) we met at our MMA facility and we could use guys like you as punching bags.
2) Fed you to the fishes.
Then I think to myself it must suck for you knowing they don't make condoms small enough for you.
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You wouldn't be doing it if
1) we met at our MMA facility and we could use guys like you as punching bags.
2) Fed you to the fishes.
Then I think to myself it must suck for you knowing they don't make condoms small enough for you.
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Seriously? The internet tough guy thing? So much for the IQ comparison. MMA? What is this 2001? You could have just asked me out to dinner if you were trying to roll around with me.

Anyways, back to car talk.
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The jealousy comes through loud and clear on this reply. Talk all you want your ferrari/lambo are a distant second performance wise..
hmmm last time i checked the nurburgring is pretty much the standard for evaluating all around car performance and oddly enough the fastest time of your prized z06 is well below the fastest porsche and lambo.... weird huh?
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hmmm last time i checked the nurburgring is pretty much the standard for evaluating all around car performance and oddly enough the fastest time of your prized z06 is well below the fastest porsche and lambo.... weird huh?
It is? It isn't even posted yet. Nice try. Check out the VIR times, and report back. Thanks.
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It is? It isn't even posted yet. Nice try. Check out the VIR times, and report back. Thanks.

lol really?? look at # 15 on the list Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:22.68

now look at #3, #4 and #10...

Porsche 918 Spyder 6:57.00
Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce 6:59.73
Porsche 911 GT2 RS 7:18.00


wow that's weird, those are better than the #15 z06....

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
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lol really?? look at # 15 on the list Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7:22.68

now look at #3, #4 and #10...

Porsche 918 Spyder 6:57.00
Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce 6:59.73
Porsche 911 GT2 RS 7:18.00


wow that's weird, those are better than the #15 z06....

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
Not a car guy are you? That's last generation's z06. I am talking about the C7 Z06. The one that the 918 barely beat at VIR 1.5 seconds if I am not mistaken. You die hard German car guys make me laugh, keep thinking you drive the fastest car on the block.

BTW it beat the latest Gt3 by 6 seconds per lap, 6 seconds!!!!
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Originally Posted by 600hpvette
Where did I claim the build quality was the same? I daily drive an E Class because it is comfortable as hell and feels like a tank. I was talking about performance. The build quality of the z06 is that of a race car, straight up. It's loud, fun and scary. Go test drive one and tell me it isn't the fastest stock car you have ever been in or driven...

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I dont know, just assuming here but think my Aventador or 650S is prob quickest stock car I have been in
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I dont know, just assuming here but think my Aventador or 650S is prob quickest stock car I have been in
You would be assuming. Check out the head to head against the 650s in the new Car and Driver. Same pro driver each car each lap. You will be surprised. The aventador is a straight line only car. No chance on track.

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Not a car guy are you? That's last generation's z06. I am talking about the C7 Z06. The one that the 918 barely beat at VIR 1.5 seconds if I am not mistaken. You die hard German car guys make me laugh, keep thinking you drive the fastest car on the block.

BTW it beat the latest Gt3 by 6 seconds per lap, 6 seconds!!!!
lol i brought up the gold standard Nurburgring and you change subject to VIR... stay on the subject... back to which, the c7 z06 had a leaked laptime of 7:08 and 6:59.... but you know what.... thats still slower than porsche at 6:57....... i thought you said earlier that its beats all the porsche's?

guess you're not a math guy huh?
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lol i brought up the gold standard Nurburgring and you change subject to VIR... stay on the subject... back to which, the c7 z06 had a leaked laptime of 7:08 and 6:59.... but you know what.... thats still slower than porsche at 6:57....... i thought you said earlier that its beats all the porsche's?

guess you're not a math guy huh?
I said 99.9% not all. I guess its sad that all GM can muster is almost beating a 1.2million dollar Porsche for 83-100k$!!!! You serious?

The reason I brought up VIR is because it is America's standard and they both ran the same track with the same driver. There are no more times for Nurburgring due to speed limits because of fatalities, but you knew that because you are an expert.

I am not saying it is a better car, I love all cars. I was saying it was faster. To each their own. I spent 100k$ on a car that will thoroughly embarrass 99.9% of cars.

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I said 99.9% not all. I guess its sad that all GM can muster is almost beating a 1.2million dollar Porsche for 83-100k$!!!! You serious?

The reason I brought up VIR is because it is America's standard and they both ran the same track with the same driver. There are no more times for Nurburgring due to speed limits because of fatalities, but you knew that because you are an expert.

I spent 100k$ on a car that will thoroughly embarrass 99.9% of cars.

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lol cost is now a factor?... ok fine then i have a gsxr that cost me under $15k invested which would thoroughly embarrass 99.9% of all cars... does that mean cars are inferior to bikes? your logic is awesome

and when did i claim to be expert of all tracks in the world? lol, nice assumption.... seems thats one thing you are an expert at

carry on expert
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Not a car guy are you? That's last generation's z06. I am talking about the C7 Z06. The one that the 918 barely beat at VIR 1.5 seconds if I am not mistaken. You die hard German car guys make me laugh, keep thinking you drive the fastest car on the block.

BTW it beat the latest Gt3 by 6 seconds per lap, 6 seconds!!!!
Your amusing. For you Nascar is the standard as well no other circuits

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Originally Posted by 600hpvette
You would be assuming. Check out the head to head against the 650s in the new Car and Driver. Same pro driver each car each lap. You will be surprised. The aventador is a straight line only car. No chance on track.

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Oh but my friend you are looking at it all wrong...there is a reason I have aptly named my aventador "invent-a-*****" it gets its name for a reason It is much more than a straight line only car
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Oh but my friend you are looking at it all wrong...there is a reason I have aptly named my aventador "invent-a-*****" it gets its name for a reason It is much more than a straight line only car
No arguments there gent! Nothing drops the panties like a Lambo! Carry on!
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BTW it beat the latest Gt3 by 6 seconds per lap, 6 seconds!!!!
yeah cool story.
now why dont you ask someone who owns both a 991 gt3 and a z06 which one they'd rather take to the track? and why?
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Such a pointless topic. Why is this even being compared? I'm sure OP was just posting as a relative conversation; however, it has seems to have transitioned to a heated debate when it's not even a reasonable battle.

You guys are comparing a matchbox to a tank. Please keep in mind that the weight differentiation between these two cars is astronomical. Keep in mind which car was built with better design and safety. It's not very comparable.

A Porsche and a Z06 yes. Both are lightweight built for speed and track purposes. But not an AMG; (better yet an E class).

Maybe an SL or SLS of SLR, even then the weight is a huge factor. The Vette weighs ~3500 pounds. E63 weighs ~4700 pounds. I will let the Corvette fanboys figure out the rest. Corvette never has weighed anything through its generations, but it also wouldn't stand up to a collision very well, much less massage your A$$ when your hauling 160+mph.

Let it be. Two completely different cars. IMO Corvette is a broke mans fast car. Don't freak out when you see one every other red light. No exclusivity. If any of us wanted a Z06 I'm sure we could have went and picked one up, but speed isn't everything.

Case closed.
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Such a pointless topic. Why is this even being compared? I'm sure OP was just posting as a relative conversation; however, it has seems to have transitioned to a heated debate when it's not even a reasonable battle.

You guys are comparing a matchbox to a tank. Please keep in mind that the weight differentiation between these two cars is astronomical. Keep in mind which car was built with better design and safety. It's not very comparable.

A Porsche and a Z06 yes. Both are lightweight built for speed and track purposes. But not an AMG; (better yet an E class).

Maybe an SL or SLS of SLR, even then the weight is a huge factor. The Vette weighs ~3500 pounds. E63 weighs ~4700 pounds. I will let the Corvette fanboys figure out the rest. Corvette never has weighed anything through its generations, but it also wouldn't stand up to a collision very well, much less massage your A$$ when your hauling 160+mph.

Let it be. Two completely different cars. IMO Corvette is a broke mans fast car. Don't freak out when you see one every other red light. No exclusivity. If any of us wanted a Z06 I'm sure we could have went and picked one up, but speed isn't everything.

Case closed.
Agreed however Mr Chevrolet with his POS needs and feels obligated to be educated on a Mercedes Benz forum.
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Such a pointless topic. Why is this even being compared? I'm sure OP was just posting as a relative conversation; however, it has seems to have transitioned to a heated debate when it's not even a reasonable battle.

You guys are comparing a matchbox to a tank. Please keep in mind that the weight differentiation between these two cars is astronomical. Keep in mind which car was built with better design and safety. It's not very comparable.

A Porsche and a Z06 yes. Both are lightweight built for speed and track purposes. But not an AMG; (better yet an E class).

Maybe an SL or SLS of SLR, even then the weight is a huge factor. The Vette weighs ~3500 pounds. E63 weighs ~4700 pounds. I will let the Corvette fanboys figure out the rest. Corvette never has weighed anything through its generations, but it also wouldn't stand up to a collision very well, much less massage your A$$ when your hauling 160+mph.

Let it be. Two completely different cars. IMO Corvette is a broke mans fast car. Don't freak out when you see one every other red light. No exclusivity. If any of us wanted a Z06 I'm sure we could have went and picked one up, but speed isn't everything.

Case closed.
Hahahah this is hilarious. My z06 cost more than your E63. Which one would turn more heads? I have only seen maybe 2 or 3 on the streets, car is very rare. If you are lumping stingrays into this, then I will lump a regular E-class into the AMG. Every other car is an E Class in Orange County. The z06 stops traffic, not a driving session goes by without someone pointing or filming my car, not that I care.

To the other guy, how am I trolling the MB forum? I have been here longer and I have owned and do own a MB.

Before getting the z06 I test drove an E63, CLS63, C63s, and looked at the AMG GTs. It came down to fun factor and sound. I bought a z06 and a 2016 E350. Best of both worlds.

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