2017's sounds like a significant upgrade
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Power may not be an issue "stock for stock" but the power potential out of 5.5L vs 4.0L is tremendous. MB seems to do this every few years. They went from the fantastic 5.5L Supercharged engine to the 6.3L NA which was B O R I N G compared with its force fed variant. Now the tree huggers has MB by the short and curlies leaving them no choice but to make eeenie weenie gas sipping eco rigs. I'll ditch my E63 for a Caddy CTS-V when the time comes.
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I agree. There were two AMG GT S cars on Goldrush Rally 7 so I got to ride wth them for 3000 miles. They sound great on throttle overruns -- when you let off the gas exhaust really crackles but on launch and under hard acceleration their sound don't hold a candle to the M157 engine.
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I dunno, the 4L c63 with the three electric baffles in it make it sound pretty gnarly. I'm basing this entirely on the review done by chris harris. I think it sounds better/louder than the 5.5L in my wagon which I find to be pretty toned down.
Nothing holds a torch to the old M156 engine. I had a sl63 with one and my god did it sound amazing with the top down going wide open throttle.
I'm interested in the self parking features of the w213 and am curious to find out what other goodies it holds, and how the body looks without the zebra tape.
Nothing holds a torch to the old M156 engine. I had a sl63 with one and my god did it sound amazing with the top down going wide open throttle.
I'm interested in the self parking features of the w213 and am curious to find out what other goodies it holds, and how the body looks without the zebra tape.
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I dunno, the 4L c63 with the three electric baffles in it make it sound pretty gnarly. I'm basing this entirely on the review done by chris harris. I think it sounds better/louder than the 5.5L in my wagon which I find to be pretty toned down.
Nothing holds a torch to the old M156 engine. I had a sl63 with one and my god did it sound amazing with the top down going wide open throttle.
I'm interested in the self parking features of the w213 and am curious to find out what other goodies it holds, and how the body looks without the zebra tape.
Nothing holds a torch to the old M156 engine. I had a sl63 with one and my god did it sound amazing with the top down going wide open throttle.
I'm interested in the self parking features of the w213 and am curious to find out what other goodies it holds, and how the body looks without the zebra tape.
Also from what Ive read the self parking will not be for the North American market.
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Short trunk but doesn't look as bad as I thought on this video....
2016 Mercedes E-Class Remote Parking Pilot - YouTube
2016 Mercedes E-Class Remote Parking Pilot - YouTube
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Nothing beats the sound of a large displacement NA engine. What MB should have done back then was to fix those few little internal problems of the M156 and put on superchargers. Then you would be looking at Weistec hp/tq with amazing sound.
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I do like the idea of a bigger displacement motor no doubt, like the saying goes there is no replacement for displacement, but it is what is. I'm still toying with the idea of snagging a used '14 up as a replacement for my 2012, oh hell, maybe just keep them both and replace my TDI VW with the New one, lol...Gas is cheap enough now so who cares
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On the other hand, I'm toying with either trading in for a late 2011 (call my crazy) without the headbolts problem because I just can't get over the M156's sound and response but I worry about other M156 problems like the tappet and cam adjuster/lifter issues; or trading in for a 2013 because I like the simplicity of RWD and I'm still not sold on the appearance of the facelift plus I'm not excited about the upcoming 2017's bulbous and matryoshka design but I do worry about M157's turbo's eventual failure. Difficult choice.
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On the other hand, I'm toying with either trading in for a late 2011 (call my crazy) without the headbolts problem because I just can't get over the M156's sound and response but I worry about other M156 problems like the tappet and cam adjuster/lifter issues; or trading in for a 2013 because I like the simplicity of RWD and I'm still not sold on the appearance of the facelift plus I'm not excited about the upcoming 2017's bulbous and matryoshka design but I do worry about M157's turbo's eventual failure. Difficult choice.
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Lazy? I think it's a lot easier to get in the car and go than to have to twiddle it out of the garage on a phone toy.
Looked to me like it was more for small garages.
There are tons of "1 car" garages that, yeah, you could MAYBE fit a car in, but you'd have to crawl out the driver's window.
Self parking will be useful to me when I can tell one of the cars stacked in my driveway / garage to "meet me out front in 15 minutes" and let that car talk to the other cars and THEY figure out how to back out, slot around, juggle, and do whatever... so the car I want is ready and waiting for me. Now THAT'S a Mercedes worthy feature.
Looked to me like it was more for small garages.
There are tons of "1 car" garages that, yeah, you could MAYBE fit a car in, but you'd have to crawl out the driver's window.
Self parking will be useful to me when I can tell one of the cars stacked in my driveway / garage to "meet me out front in 15 minutes" and let that car talk to the other cars and THEY figure out how to back out, slot around, juggle, and do whatever... so the car I want is ready and waiting for me. Now THAT'S a Mercedes worthy feature.
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My point is that this is just the latest progression in driver assistance. With each iteration, drivers get lazier and lazier and require less skill to operate a motor vehicle.
I get it, in the future we actually won't need to have skills to drive, as cars will basically take care of everything and tie shoelaces as well... I don't know about you, but I plan to go kicking and screaming into the night so this skill degradation doesn't happen to me
I get it, in the future we actually won't need to have skills to drive, as cars will basically take care of everything and tie shoelaces as well... I don't know about you, but I plan to go kicking and screaming into the night so this skill degradation doesn't happen to me
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I agree, I agree. But having the car deal with parking and leave the driving to me seems a pretty fair bargain ;-)
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self parking is a killer feature if you live in a cramp city garage (or even worse, you have a car lift). My only complaint is using the lame phone app to do the parking. If they added apple watch support, that would help a lot (but then you gotta have an apple watch...)
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Just a warning to those new to self-parking. Beware of the car curbing your wheels. We had the active park curb one of my wife's wheels several months ago, and I've intervened a couple other times when things looked a little too close for comfort in my car.
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Good point. While I was testing this out, it helps to be further away from the curb so the car doesn't come in with as much angle. Of course, having the skill to gauge where you are relative to the curb negates the need to have such a feature...
Good point. While I was testing this out, it helps to be further away from the curb so the car doesn't come in with as much angle. Of course, having the skill to gauge where you are relative to the curb negates the need to have such a feature...
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